Linux-Setup Digest #386, Volume #20               Tue, 9 Jan 01 20:13:08 EST

Contents:
  Re: newbie: install (Graham Wilson)
  Re: setup w/o cdrom (Stanislaw Flatto)
  kmidi crashes with KDE 2.0 ("Richard Amuzu")
  How do you configure GRUB? ("Peter Lawrance")
  Re: kernel-2.4.0 on Linux-Mandrake 7.2 (Michael Heiming)
  Re: How do you configure GRUB? (Bit Twister)
  Problem with RedHat 6.2 and Promise Ultra100 (ATA100) (dan)
  Does anybody really know what time it is? (Peter B. Steiger)
  Re: kernel-2.4.0 vs cdrom/burner (Scott Nolde)
  Re: Help: suck; 400 file exists writing symlinking article file -- throttling 
(Darren Wyn Rees)
  Re: first upgrade -2.4 from Mandrake, no more internet (Scott Nolde)
  What is the effect on the kernel when printing( orUSB vs Parallel) (Thaddeus L 
Olczyk)

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From: Graham Wilson <graham01~[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: newbie: install
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 15:13:24 -0800

L4 wrote:
> 
> my first attempt to install linux.
> nothing much heard before nor of the command, used winDOS over 8years for
> now, but wnat to install a webserver and firewall with linux now
> questions: which distribution
> and what then??
> 
> the computer:
> 486dx2-66
> 8meg ram
> 270meg hdd
> floppy
> no cd-rom
> 
> ok, any hints?
> 
> many thanx
> 
> Markus

        Go to the Linux Documetation Project.  There is a HOWTO called
DOS-To-Win.  That's a good place to start.  Then try the Installation
HOWTO.  Then the Installation Guide.  By then you will have seen where
the docs are kept; that's the main thing you need to know.

        As for distributions, I use Debian, and I really like it.  I've heard
it said that it's more difficult to learn than some of the others, but
let's face it: if you are reluctant to put in the effort to figure out
how to use Linux - stick with the other os.

HTH  G.

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From: Stanislaw Flatto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: setup w/o cdrom
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 10:32:31 +1100



"Markus L." wrote:

> i have a win2000 machine running and can connect it to the second comp i
> want to install linux on, but how do i tell then where to get the files
> from?

Hi!
Few month ago I was in this and after spending a lot of time on searching for
answer, in despair, took No2 Phillips screwdriver,
"borrowed" the CD from my "normal" box and did it easy.
Maybe I am too lazy(:-8 ).
Have fun.
Stanislaw.


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From: "Richard Amuzu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: kmidi crashes with KDE 2.0
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 23:30:34 -0000

Hello,

I am having a problem with kmidi under Mandrake 7.2. Initially when i
started it, it
errored because it could not find the timidity.cfg
file in /usr/share/apps/kmidi/config. I copied this from the Timidity
directory (/usr/share/timidity) and amended the source path. This
solved the previous error but resulted in kmidi crashing with an error
in dr. Konqi. This error is a bit too vague to work out whats wrong
has anyone else got kmidi working. If so how?

I know KDE 2.01 fixes some bugs with the initial KDE release is this
one of them?

Thanks for your help,

Richard


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From: "Peter Lawrance" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How do you configure GRUB?
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 10:25:25 +1030

OK, thanks for all the help people. Here's another one.

Having installed Mandrake OK, it loads through GRUB by default. The default
OS in the GRUB startup menu is Linux. I want to change the default to
Windows so I can switch on the computer, go make a cup of coffee while it
boots, then come back to Windows for my normal day's work *unless* I want to
use Linux this time. I have found DrakConfig (or whatever it's called - I'm
drafting this post from Windows/Outlook so I can't check right now).
However, the Boot Configuration module there only configures LiLo and for
now I would rather stick to GRUB.

I know there is a *really* simple way to do this, but I'm *darned* if I can
find it. Please somebody?

Sincerely

Peter Lawrance
POSability Software
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PO Box 3353 Mount Gambier SA 5290
Australia

Bite off more than you can chew - then chew like hell!



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Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 00:51:34 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel-2.4.0 on Linux-Mandrake 7.2

Filippo Palombi wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I tried to install kernel 2.4.0 on Linux Mandrake 7.2. I have an Athlon
> Thunderbird 800Mhz, and I have specified the processor in the menuconfig.
> When I give the make command, I get
>
> ============================================================================
>
> scripts/split-include include/linux/autoconf.h include/config
> gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/home/filippo/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes
> -O2 -fomit-fram
> e-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2
> -march=i686 -malign-fu
> nctions=4    -c -o init/main.o init/main.c
> In file included from /home/filippo/linux/include/linux/irq.h:57,
>                  from /home/filippo/linux/include/asm/hardirq.h:6,
>                  from /home/filippo/linux/include/linux/interrupt.h:45,
>                  from /home/filippo/linux/include/asm/string.h:296,
>                  from /home/filippo/linux/include/linux/string.h:21,
>                  from /home/filippo/linux/include/linux/fs.h:23,
>                  from /home/filippo/linux/include/linux/capability.h:17,
>                  from /home/filippo/linux/include/linux/binfmts.h:5,
>                  from /home/filippo/linux/include/linux/sched.h:9,
>                  from /home/filippo/linux/include/linux/mm.h:4,
>                  from /home/filippo/linux/include/linux/slab.h:14,
>                  from /home/filippo/linux/include/linux/malloc.h:4,
>                  from /home/filippo/linux/include/linux/proc_fs.h:5,
>                  from init/main.c:15:
> /home/filippo/linux/include/asm/hw_irq.h: In function `x86_do_profile':
> /home/filippo/linux/include/asm/hw_irq.h:198: `current' undeclared (first
> use in this fu
> nction)
> /home/filippo/linux/include/asm/hw_irq.h:198: (Each undeclared identifier
> is reported on
> ly once
> /home/filippo/linux/include/asm/hw_irq.h:198: for each function it appears
> in.)
> In file included from /home/filippo/linux/include/asm/string.h:296,
>                  from /home/filippo/linux/include/linux/string.h:21,
>                  from /home/filippo/linux/include/linux/fs.h:23,
>                  from /home/filippo/linux/include/linux/capability.h:17,
>                  from /home/filippo/linux/include/linux/binfmts.h:5,
>                  from /home/filippo/linux/include/linux/sched.h:9,
>                  from /home/filippo/linux/include/linux/mm.h:4,
>                  from /home/filippo/linux/include/linux/slab.h:14,
>                  from /home/filippo/linux/include/linux/malloc.h:4,
>                  from /home/filippo/linux/include/linux/proc_fs.h:5,
>                  from init/main.c:15:
> /home/filippo/linux/include/linux/interrupt.h: In function `raise_softirq':
> /home/filippo/linux/include/linux/interrupt.h:89: `current' undeclared
> (first use in thi
> s function)
> /home/filippo/linux/include/linux/interrupt.h: In function
> `tasklet_schedule':
> /home/filippo/linux/include/linux/interrupt.h:160: `current' undeclared
> (first use in th
> is function)
> /home/filippo/linux/include/linux/interrupt.h: In function
> `tasklet_hi_schedule':
> /home/filippo/linux/include/linux/interrupt.h:174: `current' undeclared
> (first use in th
> is function)
> In file included from /home/filippo/linux/include/linux/string.h:21,
>                  from /home/filippo/linux/include/linux/fs.h:23,
>                  from /home/filippo/linux/include/linux/capability.h:17,
>                  from /home/filippo/linux/include/linux/binfmts.h:5,
>                  from /home/filippo/linux/include/linux/sched.h:9,
>                  from /home/filippo/linux/include/linux/mm.h:4,
>                  from /home/filippo/linux/include/linux/slab.h:14,
>                  from /home/filippo/linux/include/linux/malloc.h:4,
>                  from /home/filippo/linux/include/linux/proc_fs.h:5,
>                  from init/main.c:15:
> /home/filippo/linux/include/asm/string.h: In function `__constant_memcpy3d':
> /home/filippo/linux/include/asm/string.h:305: `current' undeclared (first
> use in this fu
> nction)
> /home/filippo/linux/include/asm/string.h: In function `__memcpy3d':
> /home/filippo/linux/include/asm/string.h:312: `current' undeclared (first
> use in this fu
> nction)
> make: *** [init/main.o] Error 1
>
> ================================================================================
>
> Can anyone tell me what's the problem and how can I overcome it ?
>
> thanks.
>
> --
>     Filippo

Hello,

does your system meet the requierments as in Documentation/Changes mentioned?

I can't see an option or anything in Help (make menuconfig) what you should use if
you
have an AMD Duron like you, I would try 386 first to see if that maybe the problem.

Good luck

Michael Heiming




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bit Twister)
Subject: Re: How do you configure GRUB?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 00:18:09 GMT

On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 10:25:25 +1030, Peter Lawrance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>OK, thanks for all the help people. Here's another one.
>
>Having installed Mandrake OK, it loads through GRUB by default. The default
>OS in the GRUB startup menu is Linux. I want to change the default to
>Windows so I can switch on the computer, go make a cup of coffee while it
>boots, then come back to Windows for my normal day's work *unless* I want to
>use Linux this time. I have found DrakConfig (or whatever it's called - I'm
>drafting this post from Windows/Outlook so I can't check right now).
>However, the Boot Configuration module there only configures LiLo and for
>now I would rather stick to GRUB.
>
>I know there is a *really* simple way to do this, but I'm *darned* if I can
>find it. Please somebody?


edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
change      default 0
to          default x

where x is the number of "title"s - 1 for the system you want as default.

Example:
title linux
title failsafe
title windows
title floppy

If windows is the the third title, set default 2

Next boot should boot windows.

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From: dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: dan_at_boba-fett_dot_net@.
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Subject: Problem with RedHat 6.2 and Promise Ultra100 (ATA100)
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 16:28:51 -0800


My computer runs redhat 6.2.  uname shows 2.2.14-5.0
The comptuer is a clone with an Abit BH6 motherboard, celeron 433, 96M
ram.
The hard drive it currently has is a 13G ibm deskstar DJNA-371350

It uses on the onboard ide controller and everything is fine.

I just bought an IBM 61G deskstar DTLA 307060.  Then I learned that you
can't run an ATA100/66 drive on an ATA33 controller.  darn.

So I bought a promise ultra 100.  The controller recognizes the hard
drive just fine, but linux won't work wtih the controller.  sort of.
If I put the 13G drive on the promise controller alone, linux starts to
boot.  The linux boot process recognizes the hard drive enough to start
laoding.  LILO gets loaded and it starts scrolling text about things
it's doing.

It stops with a kernel panic (see transcript thereof below)

If I keep the 13G drive on the motherboard's controller and put the 61G
drive on the promise controller, then things work better.  I can boot
and everything on the server functions correctly.  But the 61G hard
drive isn't recognized.  all the linux fdisk programs only recognize the
one 13G drive.  I downloaded diskinfo and it didn't find any other
attached drives either.

Is there something I need to change in /etc/*tab?

Do I have to add a driver/module?

How can I make both the 13G and 61G drive work in that system?
Preferably wtihout reinstallign the whole OS with the 61G drive as the
primary

If I boot from a win98 startup disk, that fdisk recognizes both attached
disks.

Please bcc: dan at quikstor dot com in addition to replying to the
group.

Thank you for any help you can provide.

============== here's that kernel panic startup message.. this is what
was on the screen when it stopped ----

RAM disk driver initialized:  16 RAM disks of 4096K size
PIIX4: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39
PIIX4: device not capable of full native PCI mode
PIIX4: device disabled (BIOS)
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MAX_REAL=12
raid5: measuring checksumming speed
raid5: MMX detected, trying high-speed MMX checksum routines
   PII_mmx   :   854.583 MB/sec
   p5_mmx    :   908.304 MB/sec
   8regs     :   632.079 MB/sec
   32regs    :   359.664 MB/sec
using fastest function: p5_mmx (908.304 MB/sec)
scsi : 0 hosts.
scsi : detected total.
md.c: sizeof(mdp_super_t) = 4096
Partition check:
autodetecting RAID arrays
autorun ...
... autorun DONE.
request_module[block-major-3]: Root fs not mounted
VFS: cannot open root device 03:05
Kernel Panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:05



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter B. Steiger)
Subject: Does anybody really know what time it is?
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 00:30:53 GMT

Maybe I'm reading the wrong FAQs, maybe I'm not understanding 
what I read... but I'm lost on the whole NTP thing.

My goal is to have my Linux (RH 7.0) box connect periodically
to an NTP server and adjust the local time to whatever NTP
tells me.  To that end, I installed chrony although I gather there
are other utilities which do the same thing.

As far as I can tell, chronyd is indeed polling the NTP and 
making minor changes as needed to /dev/rtc... but when
I query the system date/time, it bears no relation whatsoever
to the RTC.

Obviously I'm missing a step.  What program or command
do I need to add so that the system date & time match up
with what the RTC contains?

Many thanks for any advice, explanations, or general ridicule.


Peter B. Steiger
Cheyenne, WY
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From: Scott Nolde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel-2.4.0 vs cdrom/burner
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 00:22:51 GMT

I just compiled 2.4.0 last night (several times) and finally got my Acer
8432A to be recognized.  I did not change any BIOS settings, though.  I
also don't pass parameters to the kernel at the LILO: prompt.

What does your dmesg output look compared to this:
hda: WDC AC418000D, ATA DISK drive
hdb: IBM-DJNA-351520, ATA DISK drive
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with
idebus=xx
hdc: Pioneer CD-ROM ATAPI Model DR-A04S 0105, ATAPI CDROM drive
hdd: 8X4X32, ATAPI CDROM drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hda: 35239680 sectors (18043 MB) w/1966KiB Cache, CHS=2193/255/63,
UDMA(33)
hdb: 30033360 sectors (15377 MB) w/430KiB Cache, CHS=1869/255/63,
UDMA(33)
<snip>
SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00
scsi0 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices
  Vendor: PIONEER   Model: CD-ROM DR-A04S    Rev: 1.05
  Type:   CD-ROM                             ANSI SCSI revision: 02
  Vendor: ATAPI     Model: CD-R/RW 8X4X32    Rev: 5.GT
  Type:   CD-ROM                             ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
Detected scsi CD-ROM sr1 at scsi0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0
sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 32x/32x cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12
sr1: scsi3-mmc drive: 32x/32x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray

Additionally, check your kernel config to make sure you have IDE-CDROM
disabled:
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD is not set
# Old CD-ROM drivers (not SCSI, not IDE)
# CONFIG_CD_NO_IDESCSI is not set

And scsi emultation and scsi CD-ROM configured:
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDESCSI=y
# SCSI support
CONFIG_SCSI=y
CONFIG_SCSI_DEBUG_QUEUES=y
CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN=y
CONFIG_SCSI_CONSTANTS=y
# Old CD-ROM drivers (not SCSI, not IDE)
# CONFIG_CD_NO_IDESCSI is not set

- Scott

lemme know via email if this works.

Gene Heskett wrote:
> 
> I have a cd burner, an older ACER CDRW-6206 that works great under
> 2.2.18.
> 
> Trying to have the same options vis-a-vis ide-scsi emulation etc turned
> on as I build a 2.4.0 kernel, but it refuses to recognize it on bootup
> to a 2.4.0 kernel even though the detection is the same according to the
> early dmesg reports.
> 
> Later in the dmesg report there is an advisory about an irq conflict,
> and it suggests I try 'pci=autoirq', whatever that is.  I've put the
> bios in pci plug-n-play/automatic mode as it wasn't before, but that
> made no diff for either kernel version, 2.2.18 works, 2.4.0 doesn't.
> 
> Kudzu puts it back in on a 2.2.18 bootup, kudzu takes it out on a 2.4.0
> bootup.  If I tell kudzu to ignore it, its not accessable when booted to
> 2.4.0.
> 
> I've also put that as a longer line in the
>  'append="MEM=256M pci=autoirq"'
> in lilo, but all that gets me is a report in dmesg on the next line
> after the command line is listed, advising that pci=autoirq is an
> unknown option.
> 
> So what, or where, do I do to fix that?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Cheers, Gene
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From: Darren Wyn Rees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,aus.computers.linux
Subject: Re: Help: suck; 400 file exists writing symlinking article file -- throttling
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 00:00:46 +0000 (UTC)

In aus.computers.linux David. E. Goble <goble@gtech> wrote:

> I am running redhat 6.2. I have a problem with suck.

Which version of INN ?  (I assume you are using INN).

> From </home/degoble/> I run;
> suck news.adelaide.on.net -bp -hl gtech -A -c
> and it all seems to work, but when I go to read the newsgroups it
> gives the error;
> Reason: 400 File exists writing symlinking article file -- throttling
> Can anyone help me, please...

Read the INN FAQ for a fix.  Section 5.11.

http://www.landfield.com/faqs/usenet/software/inn-faq/part5/

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From: Scott Nolde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: first upgrade -2.4 from Mandrake, no more internet
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 00:28:46 GMT

Jason Dix wrote:
> 
> This was my first attempt at upgrading the kernel.  I started with Linux-
> Mandrake 7.1 which was using kernel 2.2.15.  During the installation, I
> automatically configured a network connection using an IP I got from
> Cox@home.  I just upgraded to version 2.4 and my internet connection is
> now gone.  Any idea what I did?  Also, I can't mount the floppy drive,
> this was automatically done with the last kernel.  But otherwise it works!
> 
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/

You did save your previous kernel, didn't you?  And then edit lilo to
give you that choice again.  /sbin/lilo to add it back.  reboot into old
kernel.

BTW - if you've ever compiled a kernel, it might remain as a bzImage
file in /usr/src/linux-2.2.xx/arch/i386/boot/bzImage.

OR -- you can get the old kernel back by RPM'ng the kernel from the
distro CD.

The key here is to take a step back and get back into your previously
used kernel which supported your network.  Then you backtrack and
reconfigure the 2.4.0 kernel to see what you left out.

- Scott

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thaddeus L Olczyk)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: What is the effect on the kernel when printing( orUSB vs Parallel)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 00:47:41 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I've got a new printer which can attach either through USB or parallel
ports.  And a choice to make. From a printer perspective USB is
marginally better, but I will be build 2.4 soon.
>From that perspective I will be adding in support for USB if I use it
whereas I think that support for the parallel port is mandatory (
sorry I could be wrong on this one) which would mean that the kernel
was a little more bloated. In any case, I'm sure there are different
preformance caracteristics depending on whether I build it to support
a USB printer vs a parallel printer. Can anyone explain what they
would be?

PS
Yes my mobo has USB on it.

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