Linux-Setup Digest #410, Volume #20 Fri, 12 Jan 01 23:13:06 EST
Contents:
Re: cron setup (Pete)
Re: Problems Compiling Kernel 2.2.14: "No rule to make target" (Patrick Pritchard)
Re: How can RH7.0 handle my ATAPI ZIP disk properly? (Victor S. Miller)
Re: Problems Compiling Kernel 2.2.14: "No rule to make target" (David)
Re: sendmail (Herb Stein)
Re: Caldera versus Red Hat ("Ralph H. Stoos Jr.")
2.4 RH7 modules? (Jeff Moore)
PATH statement - an FAQ? ("Shane Baker")
DSL connection problem (Scott Ashley)
debian dselect intimidation (John Doner)
Re: Netscape 6 plugins!!:-( (E J)
Not enough disk space? (Furlongv)
Can't get X running properly (Jean-Christian)
Re: 2.4 RH7 modules? ("sccsb")
Re: Kernel 2.4.0 & modules ("sccsb")
Re: Help! Ran into problem while installing Linux! (Mark Post)
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From: Pete <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: cron setup
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 00:01:32 GMT
In article <93o3jf$p9s$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Darren Welson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I want to run a virus scanner once a night at midnight and run an
update to
> it once a week. I also have a security checker I want to run once a
week as
> well. The virus scanner I want run on Wednesday nights, but the
security
> checker I don't care when it runs. What is the most appropriate way
to CRON
> this? Should I enter these into my /etc/crontab or run them in
cron.daily /
> cron.weekly directories? Also, if I do the latter, how do I specify
what
> days of the week they run?
>
> What might an entry in the /etc/crontab look like?
>
> darren welson
>
> Life is Good
> People are Great
> Business is Wonderful
>
>
Quick extract fom /etc/crontab:
============
#Run Every Day @ 03:22 as user root
22 3 * * * root /usr/bin/winbackup
# Run on Wed only as root at 10:30,12:30,15:30,18:30,21:30
30 10,12,15,18,21 * * 3 root /usr/sbin/cmq
#Run Every Day Except Wednesday @ 05:15,12:15,18:15,23:15
15 5,12,18,23 * * 0,1,2,4,5,6 root /usr/sbin/cmq -i
============
The format is:
<minutes> <hours> <week> <month> <days> <user> <command>
I prefer to add user entries directly into crontab and leave cron.weekly
etc alone personally.
Pete
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patrick Pritchard)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: Re: Problems Compiling Kernel 2.2.14: "No rule to make target"
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 00:10:30 +0000 (UTC)
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>
>What is "make boot" supposed to do? The right way is "make vmlinux" or
>just simply "make".
I had read in one of the doc files (not sure if it was the Red Hat
Installation guide included with Gnome, or at Linuxdoc.org)
to use "make boot", not "make vmlinux".
The problem persisted with "make vmlinux" as well though.
>
>--
>Martin
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Subject: Re: How can RH7.0 handle my ATAPI ZIP disk properly?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Victor S. Miller)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 00:46:26 GMT
>>>>> "Scott" == Scott Nolde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Scott> If you upgrade your kernel to 2.4.0, there is a newly
Scott> released IDE-FLOPPY module you could use (or compile it
Scott> into the kernel):
Scott> http://freshmeat.net/projects/ide-floppydriver/
Scott> - Scott
Scott, Thanks, I already have the ide-floppy present in the modules
directory. So, I used mkinitrd to preload it into a ramdisk image,
changed my lilo to add a line
append "hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi hdb=ide-floppy"
(hdc and hdd are IDE CDROM and CDRW), but it still doesn't work. For
example when I do
cat /proc/ide/hdb/driver
I get back
(none)
but cat /proc/ide/drivers
gets
ide-scsi version 0.9
ide-floppy version 0.9
ide-disk version 1.08
Now, I'm suspecting that my internal zip might be one of the OEM IDE
models and not the ATAPI model. How can I find out? The funny thing
is that Win '98 handles the drive just as it should: it can eject, it
knows when there's a new disk etc. Linux regards it as a permanent
hard drive -- if I unmount it and eject the disk (the only way that I
can eject the disk), put in another disk, and mount it again -- I
can't read the disk, and in fact, can't even shut down Linux (it hangs
with a "lost interrupt on hdb" repeated forever), without powering
off. Am I stuck with this?
Victor
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: Re: Problems Compiling Kernel 2.2.14: "No rule to make target"
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 18:52:56 -0600
> > make mrproper
> > make menuconfig (menuconfig is a little faster, so I use it..)
> > make -s dep
> > make -s clean
> > make -s boot
Isn't it:
make mrproper
make menuconfig
make dep
make clean
make bzimage
make modules
make modules_install
--
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
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Completed more W/U's than 99.000% of seti users. +/- 0.01%
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From: Herb Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: sendmail
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 19:04:39 -0600
I think that this is the correct answer.
David Efflandt wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:33:10 +0200, Zayin Krige <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I would like to add a sendmail rule to sendmail.cf, but i'm no good at
> >sendmail ;)
> >
> >if a message's "To :" line contains more than one recipient, that message
> >must be recreated for each recipient, with only one recipient on the "To :"
> >line
> >
> >how would I do this?
>
> Not sure, but I wonder if using Bcc: instead of To: in your e-mail client
> would help, since that sends a blind carbon copy to each recipient that
> does not show who else it was sent to.
>
> --
> David Efflandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.de-srv.com/
> http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
> http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/ http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/
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From: "Ralph H. Stoos Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera
Subject: Re: Caldera versus Red Hat
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 15:28:13 -0500
Robert,
My experience matches a lot of what you have been told regarding RedHat
versus Caldera in this newsgroup.
I started using Redhat 4.0 in I think 95 or somewhere in there. The
impression I get from Caldera is that they spend a little more effort
refining the code rather than bumping the revisions to ride the hype
wave. I have loaded 2.4 eDesktop on probably 30 systems and in all
instances but one it installed with minimum mouseclicks and no trouble.
The one instance where I had trouble is on one of my own machine when I
tried to load it with a ATI Rage 128 video card with 16 Meg of RAM on
it. The install went flawlessly and when I configured the X server to
tell it to use 1280 x 1024 it tested fine. Once the X server started I
got a gorgeous desktop and then clicked OK to continue. When it
returned to the standard install screen which I believe is 640 x 480,
the screen was ripped and you coul not see well enough to finish. This
is the only problem I have ever had with Caldera (and it is probably
really a XFree86 problem).
I have a number of removable drive chassis and have the latest version
of each of the 9 or so major distros. This is done because I started
a LUG for my company.
I run Caldera eDesktop 2.4 at home a ot of the time and I am attempting
to learn Java from scratch out of Ivor Hortons book Beginning Java. I
develop my Java on the Caldera Technology Preview release and it seems
to be solid. My hardware is 200 Megahertz Cyrix with 32 meg of RAM so
it has been around awhile.
I have new parts for a 1.1 Gigahertz system with a half a gig or RAM
that I have yet to assemble and load any Linux. That should happen soon.
As I said, Caldera seems not to let themselves be rushed into releasing
software just to play "rev"manship. I like Mandrake too because it is
the only Linux I have ever loaded that found my parallel port ZIP drive
automatically.
Good Luck on whatever you decide. There is Yin and Yang in all Linux.
Regards,
Ralph H. Stoos Jr.
Robert Morelli wrote:
> I'd like to gather some opinions regarding the relative merits of
> Caldera versus Red Hat.
>
> My first plan was to make life simple by going with Red Hat,
> which has the greatest mind share. After struggling with Red Hat
> (and also Mandrake), I've come to doubt whether Red Hat will in
> fact make my life simpler.
>
> My personal experience so far is based on much less use of
> Caldera than Red Hat. But so far, it looks to me like Caldera
> is a more mature and reliable distribution than Red Hat. It also
> strikes me as more intelligently assembled. I'd be very interested
> in other people's comparisons.
>
> Here are some points to clarify what I'm looking for:
>
> 1. Of paramount importance is reliability. Of course, the usual
> propaganda is that Linux is a super-reliable system. I'm not
> interested in hearing that BS. The reality I've experienced with
> Red Hat and Mandrake is very different. Otherwise, I wouldn't
> have any need for Caldera. I want to know the reality of Caldera,
> whether it's just as bad, or perhaps not quite so.
>
> 2. One big plus for me in Red Hat was that it primarily supports
> GNOME, on which I've settled. Unfortunately, Caldera seems
> to be strongly behind KDE. Will I face many woes trying to run
> GNOME on top of Caldera? Also, does Caldera plan to add
> more GNOME support in the future?
>
> 3. Clearly, Red Hat is a much more popular distribution.
> What is the situation with rpm's and compatibility generally?
> If I go with Caldera will I end up wrestling with constant
> compatibility problems? (By the way, what's the word on
> the Linux Standards Base? Will we see it in our lifetime,
> and if so will it make a real difference?)
>
> 4. Both Red Hat and Caldera claim to be geared towards
> business users. I'm a developer and don't consider myself
> a business user. On the other hand, I can't really think of
> any functional difference between a business workstation
> and a non-business workstation that matters to me.
>
> However, there may be some differences in support policies.
> Both Caldera and Red Hat seem to offer free installation
> support, but only very expensive continuing technical support.
> I'm interested in Red Hat's new Red Hat network idea. I
> don't know too much about what it's doing right now, but
> it seems to me it could potentially become an asset.
>
> 5. I mostly use the computer for (apart from writing) development
> in Java and C/C++. I'm aware of the big controversy involving
> gcc 2.96 and Red Hat 7.0 and the criticism Torvalds cast at RH. In
> fact, I take Red Hat's side on that issue. Sadly, it looks like design
> flaws in gcc, and linux itself, have left linux in a mess as a
> development platform. I don't hold Red Hat responsible for flaws
> in the design of gcc and linux.
>
> If there's some other reason to avoid Red Hat 7.0 for
> development, I'd be interested in hearing it.
>
> Also, I want to be able to use a commercial alternative if I find
> one I like (Borland?), so commercial support is potentially important.
> I assume Red Hat might have some advantage here.
>
>
>
> Any help appreciated,
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From: Jeff Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.general
Subject: 2.4 RH7 modules?
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 19:26:58 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I just complied the 2.4 kernel with RH7 and it works good except there
are no modules compiled. Where did the modules go?
kernel 2.4.0 from kernel.org
installed and symlinked by instructions
make mrproper xconfig dep clean bzImage modules modules_install
System.map > /boot
lilo
No ppp module, directories in
/lib/modules/2.4.0/
build
kernel
modules.dep
modules.pcimap
pcmcia
Whered they go?
Jeff Moore
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From: "Shane Baker" <sbakerATpcug.org.au>
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 12:29:00 +1000 (EST)
Reply-To: "Shane Baker" <sbakerATpcug.org.au>
Subject: PATH statement - an FAQ?
Gidday
Is there somewhere, an explanation of how paths work in Linux - written for
(almost) newbies?
TIA
Shane Baker
Canberra - Australia's national capital
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From: Scott Ashley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: DSL connection problem
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 18:51:51 -0700
When I start up my Linux system (Mandrake 7.0) with the DSL connection,
I have to run netconfig each time,to get it to see the connection. I
have to select the DHCP option and let it get IP info before I can use
the connection. Should I have a script or command in my rc.xx files, or
is there an option I'm not doing correctly? After doing the netconfig
thing, everything works fine, but I worry that I've got something set up
incorrectly.
Thanks, Scott
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From: John Doner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: debian dselect intimidation
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:58:32 -0800
The dselect man page says new users might find its interface a
bit scary. And how!
I wanted to install telnetd. I ran dselect and picked
telnetd, whereupon it asked me for permission to install a
gazillion things, most of which seemed unrelated to telnetd.
I must be missing something. What is going on here?
I aborted dselect, did "apt-get install telnetd" and got what
I wanted.
John E. Doner, UCSB Math. Dept., [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Netscape 6 plugins!!:-(
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 02:15:30 GMT
Glad to help you guys out, but I still can't figure how to get the last
1/4 of realplay to work with the Netscape 6 and Real Player plugins
raclass.zip & rpnp.so. Some website that use the Real Player plugins
will state that your Real Player is not installed.
Steve wrote:
> * Hal Burgiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >| On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 05:42:35 GMT, E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >|
> >| I didn't ask the question, but thanks for a detailed answer ;)
>
> And likewise me to, helped me out quite a bit.
>
> --
> Steve - Toronto ICQ 35454764
> Powered by Caldera Open Linux
> 9:33am up 26 days, 13:17, 8 users, load average: 0.10, 0.05, 0.12
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Furlongv)
Date: 13 Jan 2001 02:28:51 GMT
Subject: Not enough disk space?
Hello all,
Reformatted a Win 98 hard drive in preparation
for installing Red Hat Linux 6.0. Computer has
680MB HD.
But after beginning the install I get a message
saying "not enough disk space for installation".
What gives?
Vince (learning to set up a Linux web server)
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From: Jean-Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Can't get X running properly
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 03:05:52 GMT
I've installed RH 6.2 on my machine and it's running fine except that I
can't get X up and going.
I have a Matrox MGA-G200LE video card and Eizo E75F monitor.
I run Xconfigurator. It find the correct video card and then asks me for
my monitor. Strangely enough there are two sections for Eizo monitors,
one listed alphabetically in the E section and the other one in the N
section (I'm thinking this is because Nanao also produces this monitor).
I use the Nanao section Eizo becuase only it contains model E75F ...
The Xconfigurator tries to to do some probing and it fails and asks me
to manually configure. I then get asked for the creen resolution I would
like. I picked them all, from 8 bpp to 24 bpp. Then it tests X and my
machine freezes. I need to reboot.
If I pick some low resolutions setting, like 800x600, X works ok. But I
know that my monmitor can do up to 1600x1200 (I use that setting in
windows). And I would like at least 1280x1024 but X freezes when I
choose that setting ...
How can I fix this?
Jc
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From: "sccsb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2.4 RH7 modules?
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 11:39:34 -0800
experienced the same thing ... please forward any replys to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks in advance
"Jeff Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I just complied the 2.4 kernel with RH7 and it works good except there
> are no modules compiled. Where did the modules go?
>
> kernel 2.4.0 from kernel.org
> installed and symlinked by instructions
> make mrproper xconfig dep clean bzImage modules modules_install
> System.map > /boot
> lilo
>
> No ppp module, directories in
>
> /lib/modules/2.4.0/
> build
> kernel
> modules.dep
> modules.pcimap
> pcmcia
>
> Whered they go?
>
> Jeff Moore
>
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From: "sccsb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.4.0 & modules
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 11:55:24 -0800
Does the 2.4.0 suppport the Intel 810 chipset AGP as I couldn't fing
agpgart.o modules anywhere and my Xconfigurator will not setup the X window
properly without the AGp module. please help
"Bob Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Zayin Krige wrote:
> >
> > when i make modules_install, it puts my modules in directories other
than
> > the normal /lib/modules/2.4.0
> > also, modprobe is not pick up my parport.o and lp.o
> >
> > why??
> >
>
> Because it's changed, read the Changes file in
> /usr/src/linux/Documentation. The modules directory layout
> is different and you need modutils 2.4. The modules config
> file is now modules.conf instead of conf.modules
> --
>
> Bob Martin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Post)
Subject: Re: Help! Ran into problem while installing Linux!
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 03:54:02 GMT
On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:43:04 +0000, hav0c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was trying to isntall RedHat 7.0 on a old system I have its
>a Dell it has P166, 32MB EDO RAM, 1.6GB HD IDE, On board S3 video, 8X
>CD-rom and a floppy. I have formatted the HD numerous times, i have
>done fdisk /mbr several times. Here is the error I get.
>"Partition Check:"
>"Ramdisk: Compressed image found at block 0"
>"crc errorVFS: Cannot open root device 08:21"
>"Kernel Panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 08:21"
This error says that it is trying to mount device /dev/sdb5 as your root
partition. That would be the second SCSI disk, the fifth partition.
Since you say that all you have is one IDE drive, this would appear to be a
_big_ problem.
Are you trying to boot with LILO? If so, you can specify the correct
location of your root file system at the LILO prompt:
linux root=/dev/hda# ro
where #=the partition number of your root file system. Once you're up, you
can fix your /etc/lilo.conf file to point to the correct place.
If you're not booting with LILO, then you need to boot with a Linux boot
floppy, also specifying root=/dev/hda# ro, and then fix whatever
configuration file is being used for booting.
Mark Post
Postmodern Consulting
Information Technology and Systems Management Consulting
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