Linux-Setup Digest #487, Volume #20 Wed, 24 Jan 01 02:13:07 EST
Contents:
Re: WinME / Linux ? (Rod Smith)
Re: Windows ME & RedHat Linux 7 (Rod Smith)
Re: FYI Helpful info on Netatalk on RH7 (Jeff Moore)
supraexpress56proi ("zen")
Compaq Presario 1700T WinME/RH7.0 WORKING!!!!!! (Andrei Pushkarev)
Re: Delaying eth0 initialization? (Mike Loiterman)
Shared memory and semaphore settings ("Arturo")
Somebody create a How-To on upgrading to Kernel 2.4, please ! (Arctic Storm)
configuring Network settings w/ linuxconf (Ken Schutte)
Redhat iso's ("Dave Johansen")
Re: moving staroffice (David)
Re: Burning CD's what am I doing wrong? (David)
Re: Redhat iso's (Alex)
help: RH7.0 installation program can't find drivers (fay aron charles)
Re: X Windows Resolution (H.Bruijn)
Re: reiserfs, utilitys package please ("Gene Heskett")
Re: promiscuous mode enabled ("Zayin Krige")
Installing Linux 6.2 with Windows 2000/NT 4.0 (D Karels)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: WinME / Linux ?
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 03:56:49 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <94kiq4$5c$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Wade Lindsey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hey,
>
> Does anyone know how I can make these 2 OS's get along since WinME has a
> special large disk support that seems to hijack the partition?? PLEASE
> HELP!
AFAIK, WinMe's "large hard disk" support is the same as that present in
other versions of Windows. This support adds a new type of extended
partition and various new types for large primary FAT partitions. Recent
versions of Linux understand these partition types just fine, so there
should be no problems -- but if you've got a very old version of Linux,
you may do best to upgrade to something more recent, or at least upgrade
the kernel and fdisk program.
If this doesn't help, please post more details, such as what version of
Linux you're using and precisely what you mean by "hijack the partition"
-- are you saying that Linux no longer boots, that Windows wipes out the
Linux partitions, that Windows tries to mount Linux partitions, or what?
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Windows ME & RedHat Linux 7
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 04:01:40 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <tnpb6.59689$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Kobanwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
Please don't post multi-part MIME to Usenet newsgroups. Plain text is
quite sufficient. Posting multi-part MIME is a waste of bandwidth and
results in ugliness on at least some non-MIME newsreaders.
> I would like to install Redhat Linux 7 on my existing Windows ME Hard =
> Drive . I have Created a Linux native partition and a Swap Partition.
>
> I would like to be able to use LILO to Have A dual Boot Menu that will =
> not Erase my Windows ME MBR , but will allow me to boot to either.
Why do you want to preserve the standard MBR? This isn't normally
necessary. If you want to do it, though, you'll need to create at least
one non-swap Linux partition as a primary partition, put LILO on that
partition's boot sector, and make that partition active using DOS's
FDISK.
> My First attempt seemed to erase my Windows ME MBR and came up with the =
> LILO Dual boot window giving me the choice to use either Linux or =
> Dos.When I chose Dos it simply sat there while the HDD Light stay lite =
> like a Christmas tree.
I don't know why booting Windows failed in this case, unless maybe you
mistakenly put LILO on the Windows boot partition rather than the MBR.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
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From: Jeff Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FYI Helpful info on Netatalk on RH7
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 22:16:59 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I use netatalk.
What hardware do you have your printer connected to your linux box?
My printer now is connected to my mac by serial, and is only for the mac, but I
would like to print from the network.
I also use squid proxy cache with my macs and it works good.
Jeff Moore
Donald Brady wrote:
> I posted a few days ago trying to get my printer available via appletalk on
> RH7.
>
> Finally got it working. It seems that since RH7 uses the LPRng stuff you
> need to have your papd.conf file use the lpr command rather than placing the
> ps files directly in the queue. There is a atalk mailing list at:
>
> http://www.netspace.org/lsv-archive/linux-atalk.html
>
> where I dug this up.
>
> Here is my papd.conf file as an example:
>
> deskjet:\
> :pr=|/usr/bin/lpr -Plp:\
> :op=root\
> :pd=/usr/local/ppd/HPLJ5P_1.PPD:
>
> Hope this is useful to people.
>
> Thanks
>
> Donald
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From: "zen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: supraexpress56proi
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 07:29:20 +0300
Hi,
Just a quick question on where I can get a linux driver for the above
metioned modem. I assume that this is a winmodem but have heard that linux
now supports them.
Thanks
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From: Andrei Pushkarev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Compaq Presario 1700T WinME/RH7.0 WORKING!!!!!!
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 04:30:56 GMT
Hi everyone,
I posted my problems before under the several subjects:
"Compaq Presario 1700T modem..."
"Linux kills Winme partition ..."
"Partitioning problems on Compaq ...."
Thanks God and you guys (especially you, Grater<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
for all your help.
Dual partition WinME/RedHat7.0 is working now!
Key is simple -- for some reason partitioning
software changed C: partition type from Win95 (LBA)
to Win95. After turning it back problem disappeared.
Andrei
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From: Mike Loiterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Delaying eth0 initialization?
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 04:33:35 GMT
Doesn't anyone know how to fix this problem?!
In article <94ke2d$45c$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mike Loiterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I THINK i have done this. Remind me once more how do it. I did it
> through the kernelconfg untility. Selected eth0 and than 3509.
>
> In article <g9ib6.25731$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Jet Set Willy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > "Mike Loiterman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:94i76u$8i0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > I'm trying to get Linux to recognize my 3com 3905b NIC, but when I
> try
> > > to restart the network it says Briging up interface lo: ok
Bringing
> up
> > > interface eth0: Delaying eth0 initoialization [FAILED]. What does
> this
> > > mean?
> >
> > Warning - could be a stupid newbie answer !
> >
> > I used to get this with my Mandrake 7.1 machine (same NIC)
> > when you I went to netconf (I think) the system did not seem to
> > recognise that it was a 3C509 card - once I told it to use that
> > module all was well
> >
> > JSW
> >
> >
>
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From: "Arturo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Shared memory and semaphore settings
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 05:03:05 GMT
Hi All,
I've made changes to the shared memory and semaphore settings (shmparam.h
and sem.h).
Now the problem I'm having is: they don't get reflected after kernel
compilation ( I use make dep; make clean; make bzImage)..
What should I do to reflect the changes?
Thanks for any help.
a.
PS: ipcs gives the following results:
[root@venus oracle]# ipcs
====== Shared Memory Segments ========
key shmid owner perms bytes nattch status
0x00000000 0 nobody 600 46084 11 dest
====== Semaphore Arrays ========
key semid owner perms nsems status
====== Message Queues ========
key msqid owner perms used-bytes messages
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From: Arctic Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Somebody create a How-To on upgrading to Kernel 2.4, please !
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 05:12:50 GMT
I've searched far and wide, but no avail.
No one has created a web page with detailed, step-by-step instructions
on upgrading the kernel to 2.4. There are a few tips here and there on
upgrading the kernel in general, but nothing specific for 2.4. I'm
talking about the proverbial "Idiot's Guide to Linux Kernel 2.4
Upgrade." If you have a decent background in Linux and computer
programming, then it's easy for you, but what about for the rest of us?
Wait for a distribution to feed us the Kernel?! I would like to see
the prevalence of Linux extend into the mass public; non-computer
professionals. I'm sure the Linux community would much appreciate your
efforts if you donated time to create a web page with
easy-to-understand, detailed, step-by-step, guide in upgrading to Kernel
2.4.
-
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From: Ken Schutte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: configuring Network settings w/ linuxconf
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 05:46:53 GMT
Hi, I have been trying to get my cable modem to work in Mandrake 7.1 and
have recently had it attached though a PCI linksys ethernet adaptor. It
looks as though this card is properly installed and my last step will be
configuring network settings (IP addresss, etc). Can all the needed
configuring be done in linuxconf? I have tried stepping through
linuxconf's Network Settings windows, but have been confused by much of
what they ask for. Anyone know any good tutorials out there on the web,
I have looked around and can't seem to find exactly what I need help
with - most seem to deal with kppp and similar things I won't need to
bother with.
Thanks in advance,
ken
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From: "Dave Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Redhat iso's
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 22:48:24 -0700
I was just wondering what iso's I have to get to install Redhat Linux on my
system. There are i386 iso's on the ftp site. a docs-8but one, a powertools
one, a respin-disc1(which I assume is the main disc), a respin-disc2, a
respin-SRPMS one and an upgrade one. Which ones are necessary and which ones
are extras? I'm new to this whole Linux thing, so pardon the dumb question.
Dave Johansen
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: moving staroffice
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 05:47:28 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hello!
>
> Am I correct in my conclusion there's no way to move StarOffice
> to another location (directory, partition) without reinstalling
> that user?
>
> I want to move 'davisf''s home directory from '/home/davisf' to
> /hda10/home/davisf'.
>
> It looks to me like all the SO path variables are dispersed
> across many different text files. I'm not adept enough to grep my
> way through all of this, thus my alternative is reinstall?
>
> I'm having a hard time figuring out the minimum config files SO
> needs for successful relocation.
Did you use the network install as root or just a user install?
If you did the network install you can move the user's files to a safe
place then delete the Office52 directory and then run "soffice" again.
If you did the user install you might want to consider reinstalling it
with the /net switch.
You will need to do the following as "root or "su" to root and install
it by following these steps.
chown 0.0 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin
# this makes it owned by root
chmod 755 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin
# make it executable
"cd" into the directory where the file is and run:
./so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin /net
Install it where ever you want it, I will use "/usr/local/office52" for
example purposes. Once you have it installed you may need to change the
path to where you installed it in the next step.
Make a symlink so normal users can use it.
ln -s /usr/local/office52/program/soffice /usr/bin/soffice
The only thing left is to login as a user and run.
soffice
For each user that runs "soffice" for the first time It will
automatically start the install of the user files. If you have more than
one user that is using it this will save considerable drive space as
well as protect the main office program files.
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Burning CD's what am I doing wrong?
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 05:51:54 GMT
"Victor S. Miller" wrote:
>
> I have a CDRW (see below for the identify output from dmesg) on my RH
> 7.0 system. I've been able to use eroaster to burn audio CD-R's
> without problem, but, for some reason I can't get data CD's to work.
> I tried to write a bunch of files to a CD-RW disk with eroaster. It
> appeared to be proceeding properly, according to the progress
> messages. However, when I tried to read the disk again, in either the
> drive that wrote it or my CDROM drive, when I tried to mount the disk
> I got a message
>
> mount: No medium found
Have you looked at X-cdroast?
http://www.xcdroast.org/
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From: Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Redhat iso's
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 01:05:36 -0500
Dave Johansen wrote:
>
> I was just wondering what iso's I have to get to install Redhat Linux on
> my
> system. There are i386 iso's on the ftp site. a docs-8but one, a
> powertools
> one, a respin-disc1(which I assume is the main disc), a respin-disc2, a
> respin-SRPMS one and an upgrade one. Which ones are necessary and which
> ones
> are extras? I'm new to this whole Linux thing, so pardon the dumb
> question.
> Dave Johansen
You need to get respin-disc1 and respin-disc2.
If you have high bandwidth connection, powertools is good to have.
respin-SRPMS contains src files.
docs-8but is just documentation.
Have fun
Alex.
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Subject: help: RH7.0 installation program can't find drivers
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (fay aron charles)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 06:04:44 GMT
Ok, I'm not a newbie, but I can't get the RedHat7 installation
to work at all. I'm trying to upgrade from 6.0.
I boot up the cd, and press <enter> to choose the default installation.
I say I want English. It asks whether the installation is on the CD
or the HD. I answer CD.
Sometimes it pauses for about 2 minutes, sometimes it doesn't. Then
it prints a statement saying that no RedHat Installation disk is
in any of the cdrom drives.
There is a way to supply a driver disk at the beginning. Where would
my current driver be for the cdrom? (mounting the cd works fine under
RH6 that is already installed). If I copy this driver to a disk, how
should I do it? (dd, or format first then copy).
Thanks,
aron
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.Bruijn)
Subject: Re: X Windows Resolution
Date: 24 Jan 2001 06:11:29 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 23:27:25 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] allegedly wrote:
>Ok, I just want to follow up for others reading this (or people doing
>searches in the future, like I do).
>
>The CTRL-ALT-+ and - didn't work.
>
>This is what I found after messing with it for awhile:
>
>What people running Red Hat 7 need to do is to go to the command prompt
>(while running as root) and type "setup". Then select the X Windows
>Configuration option. This will start up a program called "XConfigurator".
>From here you can select your video card (should auto-detect) and your
>monitor. You don't have to mess with things like refresh rates and the like.
>You then select your resolution. The program will then test it for you. BE
>WARNED! If you are running X at the time (like if it starts at boot) when you
>finish the program your X session will be all messed up. The only way I can
>see to fix it is to hit CTRL-ALT-F1 to bring up a text console, log in as
>root, and reboot the computer using the "shutdown" command (must reboot, just
>like in Windows). That semmed to do it for me. Not as easy as MS-Windows, but
>it worked.
No you don't need to reboot. Simply restart xdm, gdm or kdm from the
console with
/etc/rc.d/init.d/xdm restart
Simply using CTRL+ALT+Backspace from within X may also be sufficient (as
that kills the X server, forcing it to restart).
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Date: 24 Jan 2001 0:10:21 -0500
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: reiserfs, utilitys package please
Gene Heskett sends Greetings to Rasmus B�g;
RBH> On 23 Jan 2001, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> Greetings folks;
>>
>> I'm already running 2.4.1-pre9, which has reiserfs support
>> available.
>>
>> I just bought a 46 gig ata100 drive and matching card, and the
>> PDC-2.26xx driver seems to find the drive just fine, well enough to
>> let me run fdisk against it and setup 4 primary partitions.
>>
>> But, I'd like to play with the reiserfs for a bit before I'd
>> actually commit valuable data to this drive.
>>
>> Unforch, I've now spent two nights going from link to link looking
>> for whatever a mkreiserfs would be called. Apparently all links
>> point to the same site, and the file itself seems to have been
>> converted to un-obtainium. Having support for what is supposed to
>> be the next linux file system dependent on an in-accessable site or
>> file seems rather pointless.
>>
>> I've also dlded the JFS kit from IBM's site, and thats a bit
>> confusing. They claim its been running on their enterprise systems
>> for quite some time, but for some reason its highly alpha rated
>> when running on a linux box. Thats a whole lot puzzling too.
>>
>> Can someone 'enlighten' me as to which path I should pursue, JFS or
>> Reiserfs? Experiences?
RBH> Never tried JFS. I had serious data loss with reiserfs on a
RBH> server with a burnt-off main-board :-(
RBH> Well seriously, I have had good experiences with reiserfs. It
RBH> seems to be stable to me.
>> And if reiserfs, where can the utils to initialize the filesystem
>> be obtained?
RBH> ftp://ftp.namesys.com/pub/reiserfsprogs/reiserfs-utils-3.6.25.ta
RBH> r.gz
Hummmm, when I got there with a different browser, there was a readme
that said the 3.x.0a was the latest stuff, so I got the 3.x.0b package
which was 3 days newer. :-)
I've now made the fs on all 4 partitions, and am in the process of
mirroring the rest of the system to one of those partitions. That will
take a while, my /usr was %96 full, and was a bit over 6 gigs, the
biggest partition on the old 13 gig drive. Did I mention that I'm a
packrat? ;)
RBH> Watch out for the reiserfsck. It is very much beta. Managed to
RBH> trash a corrupt FS for me (it was broken due to bad hardware -
RBH> not a software fault).
I'll keep that in mind. One thing I don't like is that while it doing
this copying, the whole system locks for about 1, sometimes 2 seconds,
apparently while the journal is actually being flushed. Its doing this
about every 15 seconds, emphasis on the *about*. At read rates hdparm
says are 28mb/sec, I'd assume write rates are similar. hdparm says I'm
stuck in 16 bit transfer mode, on a 33 mhz bus, using an ata100 card.
That noise you hear is how bad *that* Sucks.
If and when it gets done, the first thing I'll hit it with is
reiserfsck, it can't do anything to me that a mke2fs can't fix. I think
the hardware is ok though, but this is of course within earshot of
murphy as we all know oh so well :-)
It got done, then reiserfsck after unmounting it. This is gonna take
weeks, the 'sematics' check is listing it file by file! Or is it,? by
golly its done! In about a minute 45 for about 9 gigs of data, no
errors, not too shabby IMO. This version claimed it was doing a
read-only check, but I suppose it would have asked for write perms had
it found something wrong.
Educational at least. But I wouldn't like those system freezes when I'm
online grabbing a big file, I'm sure it would be trashed from buffer
overruns in the seriel port hardware.
Have other Reiserfs users noted these freezes too?
Cheers & thanks Rasmus, I appreciate the speedy reply, Gene
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From: "Zayin Krige" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: promiscuous mode enabled
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 08:33:11 +0200
I know what eth0 is.... how do i disable using the "ifup" scripts?
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> In article <94j4oc$l49$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Zayin Krige" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Every now and then I get this message ("eth0: promiscouos mode
> enabled") on
> > my linux box. What is it? what does it mean? why?
> >
> > --
>
> The eth0 refers to your network interface (nic). Promiscuous mode tells
> the interface to receive all packets going through the network instead
> of ignoring those not for itself.
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From: D Karels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Installing Linux 6.2 with Windows 2000/NT 4.0
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 07:40:07 +0100
Hi,
I want to install RedHat Linux 6.2 on my desktop PC, which already contains a
dual boot of Windows 2000 Advanced Server and Windows NT 4.0 Server. I have two
hard-disks in my PC. The first is 6 Gb and has two partitions, the first used
for windows NT, the second for (NT) data-files. The second hard-disk is 20 Gb
and has four partitions. The first is used for Windows 2000 and the other three
for data.
For installing Linux, I erased the last partitions of the second hard-disk (5 Gb
of space). I started the Linux installation, but when I'm creating my
linux-partitions (using disk-druid) I get the error that the boot partition is
too big. The active boot partition is the first partition of the first (master)
hard-disk (Windows NT) using the NTFS file-system, which is 2Gb in size.
I can create my Linux-swap partition, but it refuses to create the Linux-native
partition.
I already look at http://www.littlewhitedog.com/reviews_other_00011.asp, but
this doesn't say anything about this. It just says that LILO can not be
installed on a NTFS partition and that there is a 'work-around'. Or am I
misunderstanding the meaning of the page?? Is it because I have Windows NT on
the first partition??
Any help would be appreciated.
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