Linux-Setup Digest #492, Volume #20              Wed, 24 Jan 01 15:13:13 EST

Contents:
  Promise IDE Controller on Dell PowerEdge 1400 (IRQ problem?) (Eric R. Jorgensen)
  Re: RH version stability (Linux User)
  Re: ps usage ?? ("Ed Bras")
  Install Linux RedHat 7 en AlphaServer 1200 ("Jose Alberto")
  Re: Quad Xeon Box ("Steve Wolfe")
  Re: kernel bloody 2.4!! (John Peach)
  Re: RH7 routing problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Newbie: Compiling Kernel (Craig Wilkie)
  Re: Somebody create a How-To on upgrading to Kernel 2.4, please ! ("Chris Coyle")
  Re: "unable to mount root fs" seems common prob.... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  parport setup (Wesley)
  HELP Cant work in Gnome ("NG_lurker")
  newbie question: ThinkPad 365 ("Robert Hardy")
  test ("Robert Hardy")
  test ("Robert Hardy")
  test ("Robert Hardy")
  test message ("Robert Hardy")
  Re: Display power management problems (Kevin Phillips)
  7 CD changer (tboyd)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric R. Jorgensen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,hardware
Subject: Promise IDE Controller on Dell PowerEdge 1400 (IRQ problem?)
Date: 24 Jan 2001 17:31:29 GMT



Hello,

Okay, so I decided to ditch the Siig card and bought a Promise Ultra 100
controller (there already are onboard SCSI and IDE controllers).  I
connected a NS20 IDE tape drive to it.

I'm running RH 6.2 and booted normally.  I did a "cat /proc/pci"
and it looked like:

  Bus  0, device   4, function  0:
    Unknown mass storage controller: Promise Technology Unknown device
(rev 2).
      Vendor id=105a. Device id=4d30.
      Medium devsel.  IRQ 25.  Master Capable.  Latency=32.
      I/O at 0xecb8 [0xecb9].
      I/O at 0xecb0 [0xecb1].
      I/O at 0xeca0 [0xeca1].
      I/O at 0xec98 [0xec99].
      I/O at 0xec40 [0xec41].
      Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xfe100000 [0xfe100000].



So when I rebooted, I passed the following to lilo:

linux ide2=0xecb8,0xecb2 ide3=0xeca0,0xec9a

>From dmesg:

hdf: TRAVAN NS20, ATAPI TAPE drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide2: Disabled unable to get IRQ -10.


So this led me to believe it was an IRQ problem.  From a suggestion to
my original post from a user also using a PowerEdge1400, I disabled
the built-in USB hub to free up an IRQ.  This didn't help.

I should also mention that during the boot process, it prints out the
message "Ultra100 BIOS is not installed".  This (to me, at least, a
UNIX person, not a PC hardware person) further indicates an IRQ
problem.

Also, when I go into the BIOS setup, it does show a card in slot 1
(unknown manufacturer disk controller).  I also tried it in slot 2.

So can I use this with the 2.2.16 (or 2.2.18) kernel at all (i.e. not
at ATA 100 speeds), or do I really need to go to 2.4.0?  I'd really
rather not, at this point, for reasons relating to third party
software.

Any suggestions on the IRQ issue?

Could these problems be a result of the onboard IDE controller only
having ide0 instead of also having an ide1?

Thanks in advance,

Eric

-- 
Eric R. Jorgensen                       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
University of Colorado, Boulder         http://spot.colorado.edu/~jorgy
"A lot of people may not know this, but I'm pretty famous." -- Sam on Cheers

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From: Linux User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH version stability
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 07:16:11 -0800

Hello,

My $.02, if the application you need is supported by RH 6.2, then upgrade 
to it. As for RH 7.0, with all the updates applied there is nothing wrong 
with it. Redhat likes too be on the cutting edge with their *.0 releases. I 
remember when the first went to using glibc 2.1 and it broke alot code, the 
complaints are the same now. Does gcc in RH 7.0 break alot of code? Yes it 
does, but this is mostly because of poor coding in the program your trying 
to compile, not a problem with gcc. Are there bugs in RH 7.0? Yes and there 
will probably always  be bugs in software, at least until they start making 
perfect people, namely programmers. Is RH 7.0 stable? I think this anwers 
that question:

$uptime
7:15am up 88 days, 11:02, 3 users, load average: 0.08, 0.04, 0.06

Cheers,
        Jim H
Proud to be a longtime Linux and Redhat User

Stevenson wrote:

> I am always loathe to install a  n.0 version of *any*thing.
> I currently have  RH 6.1 installed.
> The version of the application I need is supported at RH 6.2, but not
> yet, pronbably soon, RH 7.0.
> I am having a hard time finding a "RH 6.2 Deluxe" box at the local
> stores.
> I'm probably just blind, but I couldn't find a version
> support/retirement matrix anywhere on redhat's website.
> Is there backward compatability between 6.1& 6.2 & 7.0?
> How stable is RH 7.0?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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From: "Ed Bras" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ps usage ??
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 19:21:14 +0100
Reply-To: "Ed Bras" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Thanks guys,

Those are the ones I was looking for ... TOP!!

Thanks,
Ed


Villy Kruse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in berichtnieuws
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:48:26 +0100, Ed Bras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >Hellu there,
> >
> >The man page of ps isn't really clear to me.
> >I have a lot of java processes running with different arguments, and like
to
> >see those arguments as well. How do I do that with "ps" ??
> >
> >For example: ps -A | grep java gives me all the java running processes
but
> >doesn't show the arguments.
> >I have processes like "java -jar orion.jar", "java -jar bla.jar", etc...
> >In the ps I only see a thousand times "java" nothing more.
> >
> >With ps -x I see a little bit more but still not the arguments.
> >
>
>
>
> Try ps axww
>
> That is no dash before the options.  With the dash the options means
> something else.  Need more information try ps axuww ps axlww
>
> Also try ps -Af -- with the dash this time.
>
> Villy



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From: "Jose Alberto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Install Linux RedHat 7 en AlphaServer 1200
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:30:32 -0400

Hi,

Has somebody install Linux RedHat 7 on a AlphaServer 1200. I would
appreciate any help.

Thanks



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From: "Steve Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Quad Xeon Box
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 11:30:25 -0700

> We (my research group) are looking to invest in a small scale, parallel
> architecture in order to run a parallel C compiler
> which supports OpenMP such as the portland group compiler.  We will be
> running Linux on this box as we are UNIX based and
> have the greatest experience in Linux and Solaris.  We are not over
> concerned with getting the best performance as this system will be used
> for code experimentation.  The task of spec'ing the machine has fallen
> to me.  I have checked out
> what the bigger players have to offer and there seems to be quite a few
> offering Quad Xeon II or III units.  If I understand
> correct a 2.2.xx Linux kernel with SMP support should have no problems
> running reasonably efficiently on such as box (?)

   If you're not worried about top performance, then unless having four
CPU's is a design necessity, forget the Xeons.  But, if you want to have
four processors, they're the only way to go, and the 2.2 and 2.4 kernels do
work well on them, but 2.4 is reputed to have better SMP capabilities.  The
difference is going to be how you use locks, which is the crucial part of
any multiprocessing program. ; )

   We use a SuperMicro 8050 server for database work, and it's positively a
dream.  Going to Compaq and Dell, they wanted $45,000 or so for the
configuration we wanted, we build the thing for about $12,000.   That got us
the (incredible) chassis and motherboard, 4 700 MHz CPU's with a meg of
cache each, a half a gig of RAM, gigabit networking, and a nice, fast RAID
array.  The 8050 is a very nice setup.  The one downside is that it won't do
a 133 MHz FSB, but I think their newer boards might have overcome that.

> What I would like are any `pearls of wisdom' from people who have done
> this kind of thing before.  In particular;
>   What are the problems we are likely to encounter?

  The biggest problem will likely come from your coders, especially if this
is for a test bed. ; )

>   Are there any hardware configurations which people have found
>     stable/unstable?

  Some of the newer quad Xeon boards don't work well with older Xeons, like
the 400 MHz PII Xeons.  Just ask the manufacturer up front which CPU's it
will support.

>   What benefits would we get from a Xeon III system over a II or could
> we simply project expected performance improvments based on a cheaper II
> system?

    The benefits are a larger cache per CPU, and more CPU's.  Whether the
larger cache will matter or not depends on your applications, and whether
more CPU's are important depends on the balance for your need for speed and
your pocketbook.

>    Is a Xeon quad unit a sensible choice for a testbed of our software -
> numerically intensive medical image analsis?

   It certainly sounds like it. : )

steve




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Peach)
Subject: Re: kernel bloody 2.4!!
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 18:33:33 GMT

In article <94mr7m$ee209$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 "Adam Short" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
|>I have posted this to other newsgroups to no effect. I've been told I need
|>the kgcc package, which I downloaded last night. That didn't work. The
|>kernel compiled fine but wouldn't boot. I've also been told I need glibc2.2
|>which has proven impossible to compile (at least for me), although I have
|>found a solution to this I hope. I've also been told I need the latest
|>kernel utils, thats all very well too, but I've no idea when I'm supposed to
|>install them. Can someone help a bewildered person like me upgrade his
|>system? I've been running linux for about 4 years now and this is the
|>nastiest upgrade I've ever come across.
|>

Odd.... when I put on my first 2.4_test kernel I had no problems at
all... maybe it was because I RTFM. I suggest you read the documentation
that comes with it. Upgrade everything else BEFORE you attempt the kernel.

<snip>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RH7 routing problem
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 18:25:41 GMT

In article <94lar9$vlk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Behold my friend, there is light at the end of the tunnel!!!
>
> I have the same problem, except that my 2 ethernet cards are GVC
10/100 (PCI)
> working with the rtl8139 module. I'm only able to make linux
recognise 1 of
> my adapter on IRQ 5, and  the other isn't recognise.
>
> Did you use that "3C5x9CFG.EXE utility" under linux, or Windows? I
haven't
> found such a utility for my cards.
>
> > Linux HATES having two cards share the same module, ESPECIALLY the
> > 3c509s.  My first step was to DISABLE PnP OS in my BIOS.  I then
used
> > the 3C5x9CFG.EXE utility from 3com to alter the settings on my NICs
to
> > io=0x300,0x310 and irq=10,11.  Also in the bios, I set those IRQ to
> > LEGACY ISA.  Once inside linux, I merely added a seperate instance
of
> > the 3c509 module for each card.  It's this simple:
> >
> > alias eth0 3c509
> > alias eth1 3c509
> > options -o 3c509-0 io=0x300 irq=10
> > options -o 3c509-1 io=0x310 irq=11
>
> > once i rebooted, everything worked fine!  respond if you have any
more
> > questions, by now I consider myself an tried and true expert on the
> > subject :)
>
> I'll try to separate the modules like you did, and to change the IRQ
settings
> of my PnP cards. I'm not used to use linux, and I thought that when
we're
> passing parameters to the kernel at boot-up (like "linux
ether=10,0x6000,eth0
> ether=5,0x6100,eth1"; those are the parameters I passed to the
kernel) that
> they actually change the PnP cards setting. I guess I was wrong...
>
> If you could give me a hand...!
>
> thanks a lot,
> Francis Dagenais
> Montr�al, Canada
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
>

Hmmm, sounds like an IRQ conflict maybe?  not really sure.  I'm pretty
sure emu10k1 uses irq 10, so check it out.  Post the output
of /proc/ioports and /proc/interrupts.  These might help.

the 3C5X9CFG.EXE is a DOS utility.  I created a dos boot disk on a
windows pc and put this program on the disk.


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From: Craig Wilkie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie: Compiling Kernel
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 18:41:25 GMT

L-X-Q wrote:

<snip>
> Loading linux...........
> Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel

I got this too, a while ago. It was due to my (old) PC reporting meory
incorrectly. To get around it, you can tell LILO exactly how much memory
you have by adding: -

append="mem=XXM"

where XX is 64, 128 or whatever, to the appropriate "image" section in
your lilo.conf. This fixed the problem for me anyway.

-- 
Craig Wilkie

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From: "Chris Coyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Somebody create a How-To on upgrading to Kernel 2.4, please !
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:42:39 -0500


"Arctic Storm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I've searched far and wide, but no avail.
> No one has created a web page with detailed, step-by-step instructions
> on upgrading the kernel to 2.4.  There are a few tips here and there on
> upgrading the kernel in general, but nothing specific for 2.4.  I'm
> talking about the proverbial "Idiot's Guide to Linux Kernel 2.4
> Upgrade."  If you have a decent background in Linux and computer
> programming, then it's easy for you, but what about for the rest of us?
>   Wait for a distribution to feed us the Kernel?!  I would like to see
> the prevalence of Linux extend into the mass public; non-computer
> professionals.  I'm sure the Linux community would much appreciate your
> efforts if you donated time to create a web page with
> easy-to-understand, detailed, step-by-step, guide in upgrading to Kernel
> 2.4.
> -
>

The following article contains a brief outline of the process:

http://www.thedukeofurl.org/reviews/misc/kernel2224/



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: "unable to mount root fs" seems common prob....
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 19:19:02 GMT

Here is Mandrakesoft's response to my problem --  paste--->>>
> Hello,
>
> Here is your file number : 5944
> This number has to appear in every mail
concerning
> THIS TROUBLESHOOTING.
>
> You have to start Lnx4Win from Windows only.
>
> Best regards
>
> Mandrakesoft Support Team
<<<<<----end paste----


Well, duh, I had already figured that out!  I ran it last night when I
found linux.exe [or something like that] in the lnx4win directory... A
virtual drive is created and the root fs mounts!

New problem: linux thinks I have a PS2 mouse, but I have a standard
generic 2-button serial mouse.  I tried to change the mouse type in the
KDE desktop with root priviliges, but the change does not stick.  Is
there another way to change my mouse type without reinstalling for the
4th time?

(I sent that via email to Mandrakesoft in response to their first slow
and limited response, and this is what I got back   ---paste---->
Hi, Gene

Please use web interface for all contacts with
our support

thx
        Denis
<<<-----end paste----

Thanks *loads*, Denis....    Mike is a million times better than you...


In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > OK, i will try a real install on a partition.  Did you ever hear of
> > FIPS to partition a drive without losing data?  Do you recommend
using
> > it?
> >
>
> Yes I heard of it, but I've never used it.
> It will be non-destructive(Your data should be safe).
> You must defrag the disc first though.
>
> Anything you do to a partitiontable is in principle dangerous though.
> Backup if you want to be sure.
>
> If you have the money to spare, you can consider buying partition
magic.
> It's an easier to use tool, and in my expierience very reliable.
>
> Eric
>


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From: Wesley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: parport setup
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:32:17 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,
I'm trying to setup a printer, but can't seem to communicate with the
parallel port.  For example:

# cat "hello world" > /dev/lp0

yields, nothing, no error message, no response from the printer.  Doing
the same thing to /dev/lp1 gives me this message on the console: "su:
/dev/lp1: Device not configured".  The Printing-HOWTO and related
documents all seem to assume that this will produce something, however
ugly.  Can't find what to do when it doesn't.

I have printcap set up to print to a lexmarkz32 using lexmark's
proprietary driver.  When I try to print a text file using lpr, it
sounds like the ink cartridge resets (so the printer heard SOMETHING),
but that's all.  Repeated invocations of lpc status and checking teh
print queue's log indicate that the file goes in and out of the queue
with no errors, but again, nothing gets put on paper.

Relevant lines from running lsmod read:
Module                  Size  Used by
lp                      5924   0 
parport_pc              7396   1 
parport                 6952   1  [lp parport_pc]

Contents of /proc/parport/0/hardware:
base:   0x378
irq:    7
dma:    none
modes:  SPP

PnP is disabled in the bios, and the above base address and irq match
the bios setup.

I'm running Slackware 7.1, kernel 2.2.16.

Specific suggestions or suggested reading both welcome.  TIA,


-- 
Wes Sheldahl
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: "NG_lurker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HELP Cant work in Gnome
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 22:35:20 +0300

Hi to all!

I cant describe how happy i was after installing Linux RH7 successfully on
my Win98/Win2K dual-boot system. As a Linux newbie, i consider this a feat.
Unfortunately, my joy is short-lived for I cant see a thing in Gnome
desktop. My display screen is corrupted. Any menu i click spits out multiple
windows in all directions. Now what? Is there a workaround for this?

Graphics card is 3D Blaster Savage Pro x 32 Mb x 128 RAM memory.

Please help!





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From: "Robert Hardy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: newbie question: ThinkPad 365
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 19:41:19 GMT

Hi,
I've got an old Thinkpad 365 without cd rom and wanted to (try to) install
some linux setup (for curiosity). I tried RedHat 6 using a friend's pcmcia
cdrom drive.
I used the boot image 'pcmcia.img', to start up the installation but
unfortunately when I got to the question 'on which device are the files
held' it only gave me 'Hard disk' as an option.
After trying to use the 'drivers.img' in various ways I gave up.
Is the only option to copy all the files (at least, those that I want) to my
hard disk from my friend's cdrom drive (my windows 95 recognizes his Fujitsu
drive) and then start up the red hat installation telling it to find the
installation files on the hard disk?

Thanks for any tips.



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From: "Robert Hardy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: test
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 19:41:25 GMT





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From: "Robert Hardy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: test
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 19:41:23 GMT





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From: "Robert Hardy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: test
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 19:41:26 GMT







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From: "Robert Hardy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: test message
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 19:41:22 GMT





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin Phillips)
Subject: Re: Display power management problems
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 19:55 +0000 (GMT Standard Time)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (ne...) wrote:

> On Jan 23, 2001 at 18:10, Kevin Phillips eloquently wrote:
> 
> >I'm having problems getting dpms to work on my system.
> >
> >As far as I know it is supported by my:
> >
> >hardware - an Intel D815EEA m'board (using integrated graphics)
> >monitor - an Iiyama VM-Pro 411
> >software - RH7, kernel 2.2.16, XFree86 (4.0.1)/X11R6.4, KDE 2
> >
> >Using the dpms facility in KDE has no effect, nor does the use of
> >
> >xset dpms x y z
> >
> >from a console (root).
> >
> >I have tried adding the option "DPMS" to the XF86Config file (monitor
> >section), but still no  result.
> >
> >Can anyone offer some suggestions?
> In my RH 7.0 I have in my /etc/X11/XF86Config-4:
> 
> Section "Monitor"
>         Identifier "My Monitor"
>         VendorName "Unknown"
>         ModelName  "Unknown"
>         HorizSync 31.5 - 48.5
>         VertRefresh 50-90
>         Option  "DPMS"
> EndSection
> 
> And set the timeouts via KDE 2. Wish I had that Iiyama tho...
> 
> -- 
> Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org)
> I have discovered the art of deceiving diplomats. I tell them the truth
> and they never believe me.
>               -- Camillo Di Cavour
>   1:18pm  up 12 days, 16:16, 10 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
> 
> 

Thanks Camillo.

I had set the option in the XF86Config file and not the XF86Config-4 file, 
which presumably is the 'live' configuration read by the X server at 
startup.

Works OK now.


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From: tboyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 7 CD changer
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:54:56 -0500

I have what seems like an unusual problem.  I have two Nakamichi
(Mountain) 7 CD changers.  I had them on a win98 machine which worked,
but I had to reboot so often (which took about 10 minutes), I've taken
an old PC and set it up as a home server and DSL router using RH 6.2.
When the machine boots up, it recognizes both SCSI ID's and all the
LUN's for the CDs.  After boot up, all seven of the 1st CD changer
cdroms are recognized, but only the first CD on the 2nd changer is
recognized?  When I list /dev/cd*, I get the devices, but cdrom8 through
cdrom13 are in red and flashing?  I've never seen this before?  I can't
mount them.  I should mention that each mountable /dev/scd* is linked to
/dev/cdrom*, but I don't see /dev/scd8-13.

I looked at the SCSI-Howto, but it seems as though it's primarily for
programmers.  I'm surviving without all 14 cdroms, but with a digital
camera, it sure would be nice to have them all recognized....

Any help appreciated.

Tom Boyd




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