Linux-Setup Digest #504, Volume #20              Thu, 25 Jan 01 23:13:24 EST

Contents:
  Kernel Recompile Question
  Re: Linux version of my dos install disk? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Question about SCSI Symantec scanner card... (macker)
  Installing RedHat 7.0 with Promise ATA/100 controller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Delaying eth0 initialization? (Mike Loiterman)
  Re: New to Linux (Noble Pepper)
  Re: powerspec 1660 as linux machine (Cruiser)
  Re: parport setup (Wesley)
  Re: 2.2.18 kernel fails to load (Bob Reinkemeyer)
  Re: Kernel Recompile Question ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Kppp problem (Gary Nappi)
  Newbie question: SoundBlaster AWE64 Gold ("Kevin Watters")
  adjusting console.c (maher abedib)
  Re: Question on LILO and recompiling your Kernel ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Delete Printer Setups??? (John Scudder)
  How do I connect my ethernet card? (Gordon Berta)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Kernel Recompile Question
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 23:55:05 -0000

Newbie question: I would like to recompile my kernel. The kernel out
of the "box" installed with the initial Linux install (Caldera 
eDesktop 2.4) works pretty well for most things (sound card, etc)
but not for all. I am interested in making a few changes, but not 
lose all the options present in the initial kernel install. I know
that there is a .config file made after a new kernel is compiled with
all the options listed, but I don't see one in my /usr/src/linux directory
(or anywhere else on the hard drive). Is there anyway I can compile
a new kernel with all the old options set as a default starting place, and 
just change a few in the new compile (i.e., is there anyway I can see
what options are compiled in my out-of-the-box kernel before I compile
a new one)?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux version of my dos install disk?
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 23:49:27 GMT

Thanks all,
  I'll check this stuff out.  I've already looked at slackware and like
it.  I'm also looking into compiling my own kernel and making a boot
disk.  Now I just have to get the kernel to compile! :(


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From: macker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Question about SCSI Symantec scanner card...
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 23:52:41 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Guy Parry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>      I have a Symantec SYM 53C416 SCSI scanner card, but during bootup
> I get the following message:

Actually, the SYM is short for "symbios"...

To quote from kernel 2.2.18 help info:

"This is support for the sym53c416 SCSI host adapter, the SCSI adapter
that comes with some HP scanners. This driver requires that the
sym53c416 is configured first using some sort of pnp configuration
program (e.g. isapnp) or by a PnP aware BIOS. If you are using isapnp
then you need to compile this driver as a module and then load it using
insmod after isapnp has run."

>      Setting up ISA PNP devices: Board 1 has Identity 62 ff ff ff ff
> 61 41 89 4d: SLI4161 Serial No - 1[checksum 62]
>      Board 2 has Identity fd 0a 51 2a cf 2b 00 8c 0e: CTL 002b Serial
> No 173091535 [checksum fd]
>      /etc/isapnp.conf: 49 -- Fatal -IO range check attempted while
> device activated
>      /etc/isapnp.conf: 49 -- Fatal -Error occurred executing request
> '<IORESCHECK>' --- further action aborted

Generally, what this means is that the device has already been
configured.  If you are rebooting into Linux from Windows, or if your
computer's BIOS is set to auto-configure PnP devices, then this is
likely what is happening.  Either way, if this is the case, then the
device should be ready to go and does not need to be configured by
isapnp.

>      I have 2 PNP cards.  Board 2 is a 16-bit Sound Blaster.  Although
> I couldn't play the test sound during installation my sounds all work
> ok, so I'm guessing this message is about the SCSI card(?)

The "49" means line 49 of the /etc/isapnp.conf file.  If that line is
within a section pertaining to your scanner SCSI card, then yes.

>      I recompiled my kernel to add generic SCSI support and tried
> again with my scanner switched on, but still the same message.  Could
> it be something simple in isapnp.conf?  I notice that 'device supports
> I/O range check register' is commented out...
>      TIA.

Make sure that your kernel is configured with the SCSI Low-Level Driver
for "symbios 53c416 SCSI support".  I would suggest having it compiled
in for initial testing.  Also, bear in mind, to access a scanner through
the card you'll probably need something like "SANE", which may already
be installed.

Good luck.

=================================================
Robert Hugh             Customer Support Engineer
Aduva Inc.              http://www.aduva.com/


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Installing RedHat 7.0 with Promise ATA/100 controller
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 01:01:34 GMT

I am looking for a way to install Red Hat 7.0 using
a hard drive connected to a Promise ATA/100 controller.
This is a PCI connected card.

If anyone could point me in the direction as to where
I could find this driver or other information that would
help, I would greatly appreciate.  If there is another
compatible driver or some sort of workaround, that would
also help.

Thanks!

Steve

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From: Mike Loiterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Delaying eth0 initialization?
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 01:03:18 GMT

THANK YOU!!!!!  IT WORKED!!!

I've been wrestling with this for weeks.  It finally works!  Woooo-
hoooo!

In article <3a7002bf.4147124@news>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Gregorie) wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 21:21:27 GMT, Mike Loiterman
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Yes that is correct...3c9059.o
> >
> In that case its possible that linux-conf has set up entries in
> conf.modules that 3c9059.o cannot read.
>
> In my setup (RH6.2 with 3c509.o) this was the case. Linux-conf added
> two lines to conf.modules. both starting with 'alias eth0'. The
> solution (from RH support) was to edit the 'alias eth0' prefix off the
> second line (leaving something looking like  'options blah blah') and
> then to append that to the first line. The vi 'J' command does exactly
> the right thing here.
>
> This fixed the problem for me, but YMMV.
>
> >In article <3a6ee7bf.16580829@news>,
> >  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Gregorie) wrote:
> >> On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 04:33:35 GMT, Mike Loiterman
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Doesn't anyone know how to fix this problem?!
> >> >
> >> What driver is shown in the eth0 section of the linuxconf display?
> >>
> >> I use a 3C509B and the driver is named 3c509.o, so I'd expect
> >> something like 3c905.o for your card.
> >>
> >> >In article <94ke2d$45c$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >> >  Mike Loiterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> I THINK i have done this. Remind me once more how do it.  I did
it
> >> >> through the kernelconfg untility.  Selected eth0 and than 3509.
> >> >>
> >> >> In article <g9ib6.25731$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >> >>   "Jet Set Willy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Mike Loiterman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:94i76u$8i0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> >> > > I'm trying to get Linux to recognize my 3com 3905b NIC, but
> >when I
> >> >> try
> >> >> > > to restart the network it says Briging up interface lo: ok
> >> >Bringing
> >> >> up
> >> >> > > interface eth0: Delaying eth0 initoialization [FAILED].
What
> >does
> >> >> this
> >> >> > > mean?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Warning - could be a stupid newbie answer !
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I used to get this with my Mandrake 7.1 machine (same NIC)
> >> >> > when you I went to netconf (I think) the system did not seem
to
> >> >> > recognise that it was a 3C509 card - once I told it to use
that
> >> >> > module all was well
> >> >> >
> >> >> > JSW
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Sent via Deja.com
> >> >> http://www.deja.com/
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Sent via Deja.com
> >> >http://www.deja.com/
> >>
> >> --
> >> gregorie  | Martin Gregorie
> >> @logica   | Logica Ltd
> >> com       | +44 020 76379111
> >>
> >
> >
> >Sent via Deja.com
> >http://www.deja.com/
>
> --
> gregorie  | Martin Gregorie
> @logica   | Logica Ltd
> com       | +44 020 76379111
>


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From: Noble Pepper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New to Linux
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 19:25:36 -0600

Kevin Swanson wrote:

> I have an Asus A7V and need help installing the Promise ATA100 IDE Driver.
> How do you install it in Mandrake 7.2?
> 
> 
> 
I don't know what kernel M7.2 uses, but if you can get to 2.2.18 and put in 
the ide patch dated 1221 it works great.


Good links:
http://sweb.uky.edu/~mabran3/linux/hpt/
http://www.linuxnewbie.org/nhf/intel/hardware/udma66.html
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Ultra-DMA.html
http://www.csie.ntu.edu.tw/~b6506063/hpt366/
http://www.linux-ide.org/ultra100.html
http://www-scf.usc.edu/~vibber/linux/


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From: Cruiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: powerspec 1660 as linux machine
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 01:59:53 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I recently got given a PowerSpec 1660 PC. By today's standard it's a
little
> underspecced (1 Gig drive, 16Meg of memory), but I have managed to get
> RedHat Linux 6.2 up and running on it, as well as get it connected to
an
> ethernet via a network card in it. I even managed to get Gnome to run
by
> guessing the right video settings for the X11 setup.

If your're running it as a router and a web server I wouldn't worry too
much about X. Just telnet into it and set up what you need to.

>
> Now what I want to do is to upgrade this machine a little to use it
as a
> webserver (for about 5 people), and as a network router. To do this I
need
> more memory, another hard drive, and another network card. I have
talked to
> Microcenter (who make this machine) and it seems I can get the memory
no
> problems. But beyond helping me with the memory they are essentially
> useless. I need to know answers to the following questions and was
hoping

Keep in mind that the kind of memory you would get would be EDO or FPS
simms, which aren't being made anymore (at least not cheaply). You're
looking at $90 for 32 megs, and you have to buy them in pairs on that
system. I don't think Microcenter carries 16 meg EDO any more. Try
getting them used, maybe (?).

> some Linux person could help me out:
>
> a) can this machine support 2 drives and 2 ethernet cards (are there
> enough slots/ports?). I think so just looking at the spec sheet, but I
> am not sure (at present I have one ethernet card plugged into the
modem
> slot, so I should be able to use the other PCI slot for the second
card
> ...).
>
> b) how big an EIDE drive can the second internal drive be? Microcenter
> weren't sure, but guessed at 6Gig. Anyone know the correct number?
Also
> will any EIDE drive do the trick, or does it have to have a specific
> thickness, etc?

I had a problem getting an 8 gig drive to be seen by a P200, so 6
sounds about right, maybe even 4.
Most drives are 3 1/2 inch wide. Check to see if the 1660 has any funky
rails, which I doubt (you could reuse them anyway). You can get a 5 1/4
inch Quantum Bigfoot, but I've seen too many of them fail.

>
> c) I guess I need an ethernet card that plugs into the PCI bus slot.
Any
> suggestions for this. A Linksys 10-100 card seems a good bet ...
>

For Linux I like 3com cards, but they can be a hassle in a router when
you have two of them. I've used Lynksys cards too, (a 3com and a
Linksys together in a router, with Red Hat) and they do fine.

> Any help would be greatly appreciated since Microcenter's people know
> nothing, and this seems like a workable solution for my needs.
>
> thanks
> graham

Fred
Microcenter Tech Support


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From: Wesley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: parport setup
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 21:11:18 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks for the feedback.  Here's what I see in /var/log/messages that
makes me think that part is ok:

[date] [time] [host] kernel: parport0: PC-style at 0x378 [SPP]
[date] [time] [host] kernel: lp0: using parport0 (polling).

Am I right in thinking that shows /dev/lp0 correctly initialized?

Secondly, I did the two echoes you suggested, the hello world and the
form feed, with no reaction from the printer whatsoever.  No kind of
message in /var/log/messages either.

In case this helps, here's what tunelp thinks of how things are:

# tunelp /dev/lp0
/dev/lp0 using IRQ 7

# tunelp /dev/lp0 -s
/dev/lp0 status is 216, on-line


Any warning bells?  Suggestions of what else to check?  Thanks for your
help so far,


Mark Bratcher wrote:
> 
> First things first, have you looked at /var/log/messages to be sure the kernel
> sees and initializes /dev/lp0?
> 
> If it does, then
> 
> echo hello world > /dev/lp0
> 
> should do something _eventually_ (you may have to also echo a form feed to the
> device to get it to print, perhaps using echo -e "\f" > /dev/lp0).
> 
> Wesley wrote:
> >
> > Bottom line is I still can't seem to get any data to my parallel port.
> > Pointers, anyone?
> >
> > David Efflandt wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:32:17 -0500, Wesley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >Hi,
> > > >I'm trying to setup a printer, but can't seem to communicate with the
> > > >parallel port.  For example:
> > > >
> > > ># cat "hello world" > /dev/lp0
> > > >
> > > >yields, nothing, no error message, no response from the printer.  Doing
> > > >the same thing to /dev/lp1 gives me this message on the console: "su:
> > > >/dev/lp1: Device not configured".  The Printing-HOWTO and related
> > > >documents all seem to assume that this will produce something, however
> > > >ugly.  Can't find what to do when it doesn't.
> > >
> > > Do you have a file called 'hello' and another one called 'world'?  I think
> > > you mean:  echo "hello world" > /dev/lp0
> >
> > Yes, I meant echo.  I tried that, got a permissions error, so I went
> > root and did:
> >
> > # chmod 662 /dev/lp0
> >
> > to enable public write access to the port.  Now echoing text to the port
> > fails silently, as before.
> >
> > Other suggestions?
> >
> >
> > > However, that would only work for a real printer that can print ASCII
> > > text.  When I saw the name Lexmark below, I cringed.  Lexmark still has no
> > > Linux support for my 5700, but does list models for networking and Unix
> > > systems now.
> > >
> > > Hm, I wonder if that driver would work for my 5700 which is also 1200x1200
> > > dpi and uses the same 12A1990 Photo cartridge (black and color cartridges
> > > have different part#).  I have downloaded the z32 driver and will let you
> > > know if I can get it to work on an obsolete printer that hopefully uses
> > > the same protocol.
> >
> > I've seen some people post that the driver also supports the lexmark
> > z22, as those two are identical hardware.  There's also a z52 driver
> > out.  Hope one of them works for you.
> >
> > > >I have printcap set up to print to a lexmarkz32 using lexmark's
> > > >proprietary driver.  When I try to print a text file using lpr, it
> > > >sounds like the ink cartridge resets (so the printer heard SOMETHING),
> > > >but that's all.  Repeated invocations of lpc status and checking teh
> > > >print queue's log indicate that the file goes in and out of the queue
> > > >with no errors, but again, nothing gets put on paper.
> > > >
> > > >Relevant lines from running lsmod read:
> > > >Module                  Size  Used by
> > > >lp                      5924   0
> > > >parport_pc              7396   1
> > > >parport                 6952   1  [lp parport_pc]
> > > >
> > > >Contents of /proc/parport/0/hardware:
> > > >base:  0x378
> > > >irq:   7
> > > >dma:   none
> > > >modes: SPP
> > > >
> > > >PnP is disabled in the bios, and the above base address and irq match
> > > >the bios setup.
> > >
> > > The irq is not normally used for Linux printing anyway.  It uses polled
> > > mode unless you specify the port and irq as options for the lp module and
> > > use 'tunelp' to enable it.
> > >
> > > >I'm running Slackware 7.1, kernel 2.2.16.
> > > >
> > > >Specific suggestions or suggested reading both welcome.  TIA,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >Wes Sheldahl
> > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > --
> > > David Efflandt  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.de-srv.com/
> > > http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/  http://www.berniesfloral.net/
> > > http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/  http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/
> >
> > --
> > Wes Sheldahl
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Bob Reinkemeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2.2.18 kernel fails to load
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 02:58:05 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> I just recompiled and installed the 2.2.18 kernel.  Everything went
> smoothly, but after I restart my system, I get the LILO: prompt as
> expected and then request the new kernel. I get the characterstic
> message on the display
> 
> Linux Loading.........
> 
> the dots only continue halfway across my display, then the machine
> hangs.
> 
> Any ideas?  I have RAM disk support enable.
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> 
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Did you run lilo before rebooting?

Bob


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Kernel Recompile Question
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 03:04:12 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] () wrote:
> I know
> that there is a .config file made after a new kernel is compiled with
> all the options listed, but I don't see one in my /usr/src/linux
directory
> (or anywhere else on the hard drive).

You may have already done this, but just in case....

Don't forget that "ls" doesn't show dot files (i.e., files that start
with a ".") unless you do "ls -a"...so, it's possible there is already
one there and you just didn't see it.

Dave


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From: Gary Nappi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kppp problem
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 03:24:56 GMT

Nick wrote:
> 
> I have kppp configured correctly, both as root and as a normal user.  It
> works fine under root, but it says "Logging on to Network" and then croaks.
> The log file doesn't say anything.  Wondering if anyone else had this
> problem with SuSE 7.0.

I had the same problem with Kppp in Corel's first edition (along
with MANY other non related bugs) They graciously put me straight 
with an upgrade, and the current version of Corels Kppp jams right
along.


     Regards,

          Gary

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From: "Kevin Watters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Newbie question: SoundBlaster AWE64 Gold
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 22:32:34 +1000

Greetings all !

I have been installing Mandrake version 7.1 and 7.2 over the last couple of
weeks trying to learn my way around Linux.

My problem is... if I install version 7.1 I can configure my SoundBlaster
AWE64 Gold to use IO 220, IRQ 5 DMA 1 and 3 etc. and the card works fine.

However, if I install version 7.2 the sound card will NOT work... cant
configure it to work... Ive tried almost every suggestion I could find.

Anybody have any tips ?

Regards,
Kevin Watters
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From: maher abedib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: adjusting console.c
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 11:31:47 +0800

Hi,

I have adjusted the console.c in /usr/src/linux/drivers/char/ .Do I need
to do the kernel recompilation again such as make menuconfig,dep
bzImage,modules and modules_install .I'm using redhat 6.2 with
2.2.14-5.0

thank you very much,

maher


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Question on LILO and recompiling your Kernel
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 03:26:40 GMT

I'm having the same problem, but a simpler situation:  the machine is
single OS (Red Hat Linux 6.2), and the only boot loader is LILO.  Ergo,
neither of those things is likely to be your problem.

Interestingly, my original lilo.conf had the following lines for the
image:

image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.13.5.0
   label=linux
   initrd=/boot/initrd-2.2.14-5.0.img
   read-only
   root=/dev/hda1

This raises several questions for me...

(1) The Kernel-HOWTO says that it is an error to have "root=/dev/hda1"
(it should be "root=/dev/hda").  Obviously, this worked for me though.

(2) I don't know what the initrd line is and it isn't mentioned in the
Kernel-HOWTO or the LILO mini-HOWTO.  I tried reading the initrd man
page and found myself in deep water...I guess I'll just read it a few
more times and see if it becomes clearer by repetition.  One fact that
I thought I understood in the docs was that, if there was no initrd
line in lilo.conf, the world would not end and loading would simply
proceed. If I do in fact need the initrd line, how do I create the .img
file?

(3) After coming to this tentative (and probably wrong) conclusion I
changed the image lines to read as follows:

image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.0
   label=linux-2.4.0
   read-only
   root=/dev/hda1

image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.13.5.0
   label=linux-2.2.14
   initrd=/boot/initrd-2.2.14-5.0.img
   read-only
   root=/dev/hda1

I made sure that /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.0 was actually there, and I ran
lilo.  The message I got back was:

Added linux-2.4.0
Added linux-2.2.14
No images have been defined.


It boots fine, but it boots straight into the old kernel, and when I
hit TAB it doesn't show the new one.  I tried changing it
to "root=/dev/hda" for the 2.4.0 kernel, but that didn't help either.

Anyone have any ideas?

Dave


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From: John Scudder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Delete Printer Setups???
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 22:42:35 -0500

In Mandrake 7.2 using cups, I have tried 3 different printer
configurations. (trial and error from the initial install). I finally
got the one I like set up, but the 2 earlier printer icons are still
hanging around. They show up in XPP, Kups, and QtCups.  Only one of them
is valid.  The other old ones say: "unable to retrieve printer info" and
a little yellow triangle is over the printer icon.  Where are these
remnants of earlier printer configurations coming from?  How can I get
rid of them? I looked all over the /etc/cups and var/spool/cups
directories.

John

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From: Gordon Berta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How do I connect my ethernet card?
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 03:38:58 GMT

Subject:
             Ethernet connection
        Date:
             Thu, 25 Jan 2001 01:25:29 GMT
       From:
             Gordon Berta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Organization:
             Sympatico
 Newsgroups:
             comp.os.linux.misc




Can anyone refer me to installing my ethernet module on RedHat 7,
installed as dual boot with windows me.  I have a D-Link DFE-530TX pci
Fast Ethernet card, supplied by Bell Sympatico, running on 400MHZ
Pentium with 64MB Ram. I installed redhat as a desktop, but cannot find
info on installing the ethernet module to run my High Speed Modem.
Thanks
Gord
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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