Linux-Setup Digest #519, Volume #20 Sun, 28 Jan 01 00:13:05 EST
Contents:
Re: rpm 4 under Caldera? (Michael West)
Re: Network Card Setup ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Why does sendmail take so long to startup? (Neuralmancer)
Re: can't boot ms win ;-( ("vrw")
Re: LILO only gettting to L (Arthur Billingsley)
Re: rpm 4 under Caldera? (Paul Lew)
Re: StarOffice 5.2 and Samsung ML-4600 Printer (Mark Bratcher)
Re: rpm 4 under Caldera? (pete)
Re: rpm 4 under Caldera? ("Robert Morelli")
Re: StarOffice 5.2 and Samsung ML-4600 Printer (E J)
Boot Problems Win98/RH7 (Bob Lewis)
Re: boot hangs on ide interrogation ("Robert Morelli")
Re: Boot Problems Win98/RH7 (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?=)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael West)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera
Subject: Re: rpm 4 under Caldera?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 02:15:01 GMT
What are you hoping the documentation will tell you?
The latest versions of RPM 3 should be able to
install RPM 4 .rpm files
I upgraded from RPM3 to RPM4 only because I was upgrading
all of my system. There are quite a few dependencies to RPM.
If you do upgrade remember to rebuild the RPM database to
version 4 format with:
`rpm -rebuilddb`
Some people have had this fail and corrupted their database
and thereby lost the use of rpm. It worked fine for me.
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 15:47:41 -0600,
Robert Morelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am running Caldera eDesktop version 2.4. The version of rpm
>in Caldera is 3.03, while the current version of rpm seems to be
>4.04. I've run into quite a few packages that seem to require
>version 4 and it's becoming a nuissance. However, I'm very
>puzzled.
>
>First, I could find no mention of rpm version 4 on Caldera's site.
>
>Second, the home site of rpm at www.rpm.org has no recent
>documentation. Every document there is years old.
>
>I've never seen a feature of an operating system as important
>as rpm go undocumented this way and I really don't know what
>to make of it. Some obvious questions:
>
>Is there a source of information on rpm 4 that I've missed?
>Is this sort of lack of documentation just a ``normal'' part of the
>Linux culture?
>Is rpm 4 still experimental?
>Are there known serious problems with it?
>Should I avoid rpm 4 until documentation appears?
>
>Any advice appreciated.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Network Card Setup
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 02:09:22 GMT
Thanks very much for the info. I have tried different ports on the hub
and have tried different cables, ones I know that work. How do I make
sure that the card is in half-duplex mode? That could be it.
Thanks,
Andrew
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Cameron Kerr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You have probably plugged one of the computers into the "uplink" port
of
> the hub. Some explanation may help.
>
> Hub's have what is known as an "uplink" port to plug into another hub.
> This allows you to daisy chain them (DON'T make a cycle).
>
> The uplink comes in two flavors,
> Some hubs have a switch on the bottom (some you need to take off the
> base), and others have two ports, only one of which you can use at a
> time.
>
> The switch will often be called "uplink" and "normal", though
sometimes
> other labels are used (there's probably only one switch).
>
> Anyway, when you link (called "stacking" hubs, you plug on end of a
> standard patch cable into the uplink, and the other into a normal
port.
>
> You could also use a crossover cable to link the two via two normal
> ports.
>
> If this doesn't help, make sure that you have a good cable, and that
both
> nics are in half-duplex mode. Also, test the nics (usually via a DOS
> program available for free from the manufacturer)
>
> Anyway, HTH -- Cameron Kerr
>
Sent via Deja.com
http://www.deja.com/
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Subject: Why does sendmail take so long to startup?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Neuralmancer)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 02:20:38 GMT
I managed to get the sending of external mail to work. Needed to add:
MAQUERADE_AS(earthlink.net)dnl
to the .mc file. Sendmail still takes along time to startup. What's it
doing?
Lee
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From: "vrw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: can't boot ms win ;-(
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 19:52:32 -0000
"Benny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:94uu9i$ask$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> hi, a small problem, please help me :-)
>
> i have linux on my primary master hd, ms win98 on my primary slave hd. i'm
> using lilo and it can boot just fine to linux, but just freezes when i try
to
> load windows :-(
>
> my lilo.conf is:
>
> boot = /dev/hda
> default = linux
> compact
> delay = 20
> image = /vmlinuz
> root = /dev/hda1
> label = linux
> append = "hdd=ide-scsi"
> read-only
> other = /dev/hdb1
> label = win
> table = /dev/hdb
>
> i've tried looking in faqs but there are no examples like my simple
config, and
> they're all a little complicated for me :-\
>
> --
>
>How exactly does Windoze freeze ? Does it load, then stop, or does it not
even get into Windows ?
If you can, try swapping the drives (I believe that Win needs to be on the
primary drive, at lest Win 9x)
Other than that, lilo looks ok.
Volkmar
.
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From: Arthur Billingsley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO only gettting to L
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 03:03:28 GMT
Its a geometry issue, use your emergency boot disk,
edit lilo.conf, add LBA32, run LILO, and that should fix.
Look for info on LBA32,
Art
Moses wrote:
> Redhat 7.1
>
> LILO halts on L
>
> Suggestions, have seen it get to LI before on other systems, this is a new
> one to me.
>
> Moses
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Lew)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera
Subject: Re: rpm 4 under Caldera?
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 03:16:54 GMT
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Robert Morelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am running Caldera eDesktop version 2.4. The version of rpm
>in Caldera is 3.03, while the current version of rpm seems to be
>4.04. I've run into quite a few packages that seem to require
>version 4 and it's becoming a nuissance. However, I'm very
>puzzled.
>
>First, I could find no mention of rpm version 4 on Caldera's site.
>
>Second, the home site of rpm at www.rpm.org has no recent
>documentation. Every document there is years old.
>
>I've never seen a feature of an operating system as important
>as rpm go undocumented this way and I really don't know what
>to make of it. Some obvious questions:
>
>Is there a source of information on rpm 4 that I've missed?
>Is this sort of lack of documentation just a ``normal'' part of the
>Linux culture?
>Is rpm 4 still experimental?
>Are there known serious problems with it?
>Should I avoid rpm 4 until documentation appears?
>
>Any advice appreciated.
I've had to dig recently into rpm 4x and found some info on the redhat
site; and asof today, saturday jan 27 2001, the info on the site says
rpm 4x is still "in development" and not a production release.
"rpm" is redhat's "property" and not a "normal" linux package even if
other distributions use it; a potential problem exist in that when using
a rpm to install, one could install into a place that redhat uses and not
the distr one is acutally using and thereby possibly creating duplicates.
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From: Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: StarOffice 5.2 and Samsung ML-4600 Printer
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 03:42:15 GMT
Dan,
I believe the Samsung ML-4600 emulates PCL/6. If that's the case, then
you should be able to configure it as an HP LaserJet 5 and get good
results.
Mark
Dan wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I just got the Samsung ML-4600 and let me first say that
> I'm very impress
> with it. It is an excellent printer for the money, of
> course there are
> many other printers out there that's better, but like
> anything in life the
> better the quality, the greater the price. However, the
> ML-4600 is
> consider, in my opinion, dollar-for-dollar the best buy.
>
> Although the print quality is crisp and sharp, but I do
> have one complain,
> it seems that the printing are "thin" and "light" compare
> to the traditional
> true laser printer. But for the price that I paid $242
> (all and all),
> it's a steal.
>
> Now that I set up the printer and it's printing, I just
> need to know how
> to set it up to StarOffice 5.2.
>
> Under "printer setup," StarOffice gives you whole bunch of
> drivers for
> other printers, and there is a option to add other
> drivers, I have try it
> and failed.
>
> On the CD there was only a script that sets up
> "printtool," but I didn't
> actually see anything that I can use for StarOffice's
> "printer setup."
>
> Please help!!
>
> -Dan
--
Mark Bratcher
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Escape from Microsoft's proprietary tentacles: use Linux!
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From: pete <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera
Subject: Re: rpm 4 under Caldera?
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 22:06:16 -0500
Robert Morelli wrote:
>
> I am running Caldera eDesktop version 2.4. The version of rpm
> in Caldera is 3.03, while the current version of rpm seems to be
> 4.04. I've run into quite a few packages that seem to require
<snip>
<snip>
Robert,
I ran into the same thing a few months ago. In my experience, RPM 4.0 is
a bit better, but until it becomes the new standard it's not sure yet.
I'm using RH 7.0, which is roughly compatible with Caldera <Good
choice!> but I'll bet that an RH cd would properly upgrade your RPM if
you wanted yo try it. In my experience, it's easier this way since
version 3 can't seem to install version 4. You can find all the docs you
would want at RedHat, or under /usr/share/doc (on RH7.x) once you have
it on there. Your filesystem tree is similar enough to do it, I know
since I used Caldera a while ago. A useful resource might be at
ftp://ftp.rpm.org/pub
--notice that they have separate dir trees for docs and code. Hope this
helps.
BTW this involves a Berkley DB format change. If you need details, mail
me -- I wrote a HOWTO. (simple stuff)
--
"And because in all the galaxy they found nothing so precious as mind,
they
encouraged its dawning everywhere. They became farmers in the fields of
stars.
They sowed; sometimes they reaped. And sometimes, dispassionately, they
had to weed." -- Arthur C. Clarke -2001: A Space Odessey-
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From: "Robert Morelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera
Subject: Re: rpm 4 under Caldera?
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 18:53:45 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Michael
West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What are you hoping the documentation will tell you?
For one thing, I would hope it would tell me exactly the sort
of things that you and the other posters are telling me. In particular,
some of the problems you say some people have had sound serious
to me.
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: StarOffice 5.2 and Samsung ML-4600 Printer
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 03:57:08 GMT
I have my Star Office 5.2 set to the generic printer (lpr) for my printer
and recommend that you do so too.
RTFM and see if it emulates any printers such as HP, or can handle
postscript.
I am surprised you did not do a websearch for linux printer drivers, see if
the older ML-4500 drivers will work.
Nov 08, 2000
ML-4500 Printer Linux Driver for English
ML4500Linux_ENG.zip
Nov 08, 2000
ML-4500 & ML-6040 Printer Linux Driver
Source
(English)
Linux_Source.ZIP
http://www.samsungelectronics.com/support/downloads/printer/
Dan wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I just got the Samsung ML-4600 and let me first say that
> I'm very impress
> with it. It is an excellent printer for the money, of
> course there are
> many other printers out there that's better, but like
> anything in life the
> better the quality, the greater the price. However, the
> ML-4600 is
> consider, in my opinion, dollar-for-dollar the best buy.
>
> Although the print quality is crisp and sharp, but I do
> have one complain,
> it seems that the printing are "thin" and "light" compare
> to the traditional
> true laser printer. But for the price that I paid $242
> (all and all),
> it's a steal.
>
> Now that I set up the printer and it's printing, I just
> need to know how
> to set it up to StarOffice 5.2.
>
> Under "printer setup," StarOffice gives you whole bunch of
> drivers for
> other printers, and there is a option to add other
> drivers, I have try it
> and failed.
>
> On the CD there was only a script that sets up
> "printtool," but I didn't
> actually see anything that I can use for StarOffice's
> "printer setup."
>
> Please help!!
>
> -Dan
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From: Bob Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Boot Problems Win98/RH7
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 20:50:32 -0800
Please pardon me if this problem has been covered before, I've not been
able to find the answer elsewhere.
I installed Win 98 on a Fat 32 partition, booted fine. Then installed
RH7 on a linux native partition. Lilo is in MBR.. Linux boots fine..
When selecting DOS I get a screen saying "dos loading" , hard drive
continues to run but nothing loads. If I try to boot from a Win 98 boot
disk or even a DOS boot disk it will also hang before it loads. This
has me a bit confused!!
Windows is loaded on C: and is set as active.
Lilo.conf looks like this
boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
prompt
timeout=50
message=/boot/message
linear
default=linux
image=/boot/vmlinux-2.2.16-22
label=linux
read only
root=/dev/hda5
other=/dev/hda/
label=dos
table=/dev/hda
I loaded linux as a server if that makes any difference.
Any suggestions would be appreciated very much.
Bob
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From: "Robert Morelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: boot hangs on ide interrogation
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 19:47:42 -0600
Unfortunately, I can't tell you how to solve this problem, but I
can at least say that I had similar problems on two systems that
both had ide and scsi drives (but which were otherwise quite
dissimilar). I posted about the problems I had about two weeks
ago here.
During one install attempt with the two drives, the installer
formatted a partition other than the one I specified, overwriting
valuable data. (I am absolutely certain that this was not my error;
I double checked everything very carefully, precisely because
I feared losing data.)
At one point, I called Caldera tech support about the problem.
They told me that one of their engineers had tried hard, but never
succeeded, at getting GRUB to boot a system off a scsi drive
that also had an ide drive. They advised me to always boot
off the ide.
After struggling with these problems for days, I finally threw
in the towel and removed the scsi drive from one system and
the ide from the other. I now have two perfectly good hard disks
sitting on the shelf, but at least Linux is booting.
The truth, which a lot of Linux users are loathe to admit, is that
Linux is still a fairly barbaric OS. It's unreliable under the best
of conditions, and if you throw something as complicated as
two drives on different buses at it, it's going to do a dizzy dance.
In article <94vcj6$bhe$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Tom Purvis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've got an HP Vectra XU 6/200 (~3 year old) Pentium Pro machine. It has
> two processors, 256M of RAM, a 4GB SCSI drive, and a 10GB ide drive.
>
> I'm trying to put SuSE 7.0 linux on it, and have been having ide
> headaches. I can install linux, but can't boot it from either the hard
> disk or a boot floppy. I can boot from the SuSE boot diskette or from
> the SuSE CD and then load the installed copy of linux, but as I
> understand it, that means that I am not loading my newly installed
> kernel, but the one that is on the SuSE boot floppy or CD.
>
> When I try to boot from my own kernel, I get to the following portion of
> the boot process, and then the system just stops:
>
> ...
> Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.30 ide: Assuming 33MHz
> system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx CMD646: IDE
> controller on PCI bus 00 dev 08 CMD646: chipset revision 1 CMD646: not
> 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
> ide0: BM-DMA at 0xfc00-0xfc07, BIOS settings: hda:pio, hdb:pio ide1:
> BM-DMA at 0xfc08-0xfc0f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio
> hda: QUANTUM FIREBALLP LM10.2, ATA DISK drive hdc: HITACHI CDR-8130,
> ATAPI CDROM drive ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7, 0x3f6 on irq 14 ide1 at
> 0x170-0x177,
> 0x376 on irq 15 hda: QUANTUM FIREBALLP LM10.2, 9797MB w1900kB Cache,
> CHS=1327/240/63
>
> I was convinced that the problem was my quantum fireball 10GB drive, so
> I yanked it. I installed linux to my scsi drive, and it still hung, but
> now it hangs on a slightly different line.
>
> I have tried adding the "ide0=0x1f0 ide1=0x170" parameters, and I've
> tried ideX=noautotune/serialize (haven't tried autotune). Now I'm going
> to apply a patch that I found (Wild A$$ Guess) to the 2.1.16 kernel.
> I've sent mail to SuSE, from whom I'm entitled to install support for 90
> days, but I'm anxious to learn about this, and of course get on with it.
>
> Any advice or information would be greatly appreciated.
> --
> Tom Purvis Salida, Colorado
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Boot Problems Win98/RH7
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 06:07:48 +0100
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Bob Lewis wrote:
> Please pardon me if this problem has been covered before, I've not been
> able to find the answer elsewhere.
> I installed Win 98 on a Fat 32 partition, booted fine. Then installed
> RH7 on a linux native partition. Lilo is in MBR.. Linux boots fine..
> When selecting DOS I get a screen saying "dos loading" , hard drive
> continues to run but nothing loads. If I try to boot from a Win 98 boot
> disk or even a DOS boot disk it will also hang before it loads. This
> has me a bit confused!!
> Windows is loaded on C: and is set as active.
> Lilo.conf looks like this
> boot=/dev/hda
> map=/boot/map
> install=/boot/boot.b
> prompt
> timeout=50
> message=/boot/message
> linear
> default=linux
>
> image=/boot/vmlinux-2.2.16-22
> label=linux
> read only
> root=/dev/hda5
> other=/dev/hda/
> label=dos
> table=/dev/hda
>
> I loaded linux as a server if that makes any difference.
> Any suggestions would be appreciated very much.
Assuming DOS is on /dev/hda1, shouldn't it be:
other=/dev/hda1
label=dos
table=/dev/hda
Anyway, you spelled / typed it wrong - There is no trailing / after
/dev/hda.
Rasmus B�g Hansen
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