Linux-Setup Digest #533, Volume #20 Tue, 30 Jan 01 00:13:07 EST
Contents:
Re: Sound busy when it really isn't (Victor S. Miller)
failed "Read Cd/Dvd Capacity";failed "Prevent/Allow Medium Removal" (Ernest Siu)
This crahses linux (James Bilitski)
Re: KPPP Problems (Mostyn BRAMLEY-MOORE)
Newbee : AGP VGA Problem ("Loh, Kuam Hong (Michael)")
Re: Compiling the Kernel (Paul Lew)
Re: rpm 4 under Caldera? (Harold Colvin)
Is there a word for below novice - need help (Sam Piper)
Re: This crahses linux (James Bilitski)
Re: Is there a word for below novice - need help (Jeff Moore)
Re: .XML docs, need to print them. ("Gene Heskett")
Root is Invalid!! HELP!! (James Webb)
Mouse pointer is a blank box (Malcolm Hudson)
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Subject: Re: Sound busy when it really isn't
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Victor S. Miller)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 01:11:31 GMT
I have an SB on ISA. But, for your edification
Here's the output of cat /proc/pci:
PCI devices found:
Bus 0, device 0, function 0:
Host bridge: Intel 82437VX Triton II (rev 2).
Medium devsel. Master Capable. Latency=32.
Bus 0, device 7, function 0:
ISA bridge: Intel 82371SB PIIX3 ISA (rev 1).
Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. Master Capable. No bursts.
Bus 0, device 7, function 1:
IDE interface: Intel 82371SB PIIX3 IDE (rev 0).
Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. Master Capable. Latency=32.
I/O at 0xffa0 [0xffa1].
Bus 0, device 7, function 2:
USB Controller: Intel 82371SB PIIX3 USB (rev 1).
Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. IRQ 9. Master Capable. No bursts.
I/O at 0xff80 [0xff81].
Bus 0, device 13, function 0:
VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. ViRGE (rev 5).
Medium devsel. IRQ 11. Master Capable. Latency=40. Min Gnt=4.Max Lat=255.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xf8000000 [0xf8000000].
and here's the output of cat /proc/devices:
Character devices:
1 mem
2 pty
3 ttyp
4 ttyS
5 cua
7 vcs
10 misc
14 sound
29 fb
36 netlink
128 ptm
136 pts
162 raw
180 usb
Block devices:
1 ramdisk
2 fd
3 ide0
8 sd
9 md
11 sr
22 ide1
65 sd
66 sd
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From: Ernest Siu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: failed "Read Cd/Dvd Capacity";failed "Prevent/Allow Medium Removal"
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 02:05:48 GMT
Hi all,
Does anyone have a clue what they mean? I have 2 IDE CD-ROMs and both
are recognized fine... What command can get more diagnostic?
Cheers,
Ernest
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From: James Bilitski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: This crahses linux
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:23:32 -0800
This program brought my linux system down in a hurry:
int main
{
while (1)
malloc(9999);
}
Anyone know how I can put some memory and cpu limitations on?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mostyn BRAMLEY-MOORE)
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: KPPP Problems
Date: 30 Jan 2001 02:37:59 GMT
>2) After dialing and succesfully connecting, no applications can be brought
>up - clicking on their icon/menu item does nothing. On the other hand, if I
>already have a console/shell window open, I can execute commands such as
>ping, ftp, etc., so I know I have a network connection. However, being able
>to use my browser would be nice...
do those applications start before you connect? if not, then you probably
need to install them first.
m.
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From: "Loh, Kuam Hong (Michael)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Newbee : AGP VGA Problem
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:01:14 +0800
Hi,
I am new to the linux system and trying to setup using Redhat 6.1
The setup goes well, but the OS cannot detect my
VANTA LT 8Mb AGP VGA card
and is giving default resolution of 640X480. At this resolution, running
X is a little frustrating. I have tried running Xconfigurator and xf86config
utility program and I think I have corrupted my XF86Config file - where
xwindow would not start.
Kindly help if anybody have any solution or recomendations
rgds
loh
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Lew)
Subject: Re: Compiling the Kernel
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 03:03:28 GMT
On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, James Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 29 Jan 2001 13:44:37 +1100, Jimbob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>
>>Scott L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> I'm a newbie to Linux, and I'm trying to compile 2.4.0. I took
>>> instructions from Mandrake's website, and have extracted the kernel
>>> source and everything, but when I input the command "make xconfig", it
>>> doesn't recognize the command "make". Is there something I could be
>>> doing wrong? What's wrong?
>
>It is possible that you installed linux without installing the make
>command.
>
>make sure you have a command called make, otherwise it will never
>work...
Or make wasn't done as a root user and/or not in the file-path..
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From: Harold Colvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: rpm 4 under Caldera?
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:58:21 -0500
Paul Lew wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 20:03:43 -0500, L. Friedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Paul Lew wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 10:55:53 -0500, L. Friedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
> >> >Robert Morelli wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "L. Friedman"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Robert Morelli wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >> >> >> "Michael West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > What are you hoping the documentation will tell you?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> For one thing, I would hope it would tell me exactly the sort of
> >> >> >> things that you and the other posters are telling me. In
> >> >> >> particular, some of the problems you say some people have had
> >> >> >> sound serious to me.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Which is exactly why you don't play with experimental versions of
> >> >> > software unless you know what you're doing.
> >> >>
> >> >> The reason I posted here was to find out if in fact rpm 4 is
> >> >> experimental or prone to problems. If you read my original post,
> >> >> you'll see that I was unable to find any documentation for rpm 4 at
> >> >> all on the
> >> >> www.rpm.org site -- not a word. All of the documentation there
> >> >> is years old. Nevertheless, the link to rpm 4.0 is placed
> >> >> prominently
> >> >> on the home page, labeled as the ``current latest release.'' At
> >> >> the
> >> >> same time, the site claims, ``This site aims to bring you the
> >> >> latest and most up to date information on the RPM software packaging
> >> >> tool
> >> >> which is taking the world by storm.'' I consider this a little
> >> >> irresponsible.
> >> >>
> >> >> I'd really like to encourage the Linux community to take this sort
> >> >> of
> >> >> thing more seriously. In my opinion, documentation is as important
> >> >> as code. If you release a new version of something, you have to
> >> >> say,
> >> >> at the very least, ``This release fixes this and that ...'' or
> ``This release
> >> >> is experimental,'' or ``This release introduces such and such
> feature ...''
> >> >> I think it's pretty dangerous and misleading that www.rpm.org has an
> >> >> experimental version of rpm listed as the ``current latest
> >> >> release''.
> >> >>
> >> >> Anyway, it's good at least to have helpful folks the newsgroups.
> >> >
> >> >Oh, i agree with you 100%.
> >> >The problem with RPM project is its history. ALthough RedHat loves to
> >> >have its name in the spotlight, and RPM certainly does that for it,
> >> >its not until very recently (in the past year or so) that Redhat made
> >> >*any*
> >> >significant development contributions to rpm. Up until then rpm was
> >> >nothing more than marketing for Redhat, while others who had no
> >> >relationship to RedHat the company, did the bulk of the development
> >> >work. Then all of a sudden, Redhat to get actively involved in the
> >> >development of rpm again, and started to play little games with the
> >> >other developers. In addition, they started to add 'features' to rpm
> >> >which in effect broke alot of backwards compatibility, and then used
> >> >their customer base as the guinea pigs via their distro releases.
> >> >RedHat-7.0 is a perfect example, where they dumped rpm-4.0 out to the
> >> >world, effectively changing the rules and forcing people to either
> >> >jump through hoops to allow them to use the newest rpm packages, or to
> >> >simply
> >> >'use RedHat-7.0'. I don't think i need to spell out which company's
> >> >tactics this mirrors.
> >> >
> >> >The bottom line here is that RPMs are a nice idea, however you should
> >> >make an effort to be profficient with other means of getting new
> >> >software on your linux system, that way you aren't dependent on what
> >> >RedHat does.
> >> >
> >> However, the install Changes for the 2.4.0 kernel say that a new
> >> mkinitrd "may be required" and provides a site to obtain the "latest"
> >> mkinitrd; but, the mkinitrd is in rpm 4 format and no tarball is to be
> >> seen as the site is redhat's rawhide area.
> >>
> >> It is such instances like that that make people scrambling for rpm 4
> >> when
> >> tarballs are not available for the required upgrade. Of course, this
> >> means that the software authors should also make the tarballs
> >> available..:-).
> >
> >Are you sure about this? I find it quite hard to believe that something
> >critical to building a kernel came only in one format. What are people
> >using Debian supposed to do?
> >
> >--
> The following is at the end of the Changes for 2.4.0 showing where to
> get what files; my 2.4.0 was retrieved from www.kernel.org which wasn't
> a distribution specific site, I thought...
>
> The file is in rpm 4 format; however, SuSE has their own version called
> mk_initrd which is larger (it is just a script). Perhaps Debian will have
> their own; check your /sbin for mk*.
>
> Mkinitrd
> --------
> <ftp://rawhide.redhat.com/pub/rawhide/SRPMS/SRPMS/mkinitrd-2.5-1.src.rpm>
I went to the kernel.org web site and was able to download the 2.4.0
kernel. The file that I downloaded was linux-2.4.0.tar.gz. Unless I am
wrong, this is a tar ball, not a rpm.
Harold
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From: Sam Piper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Is there a word for below novice - need help
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 22:13:50 -0500
ok - let's start with the facts. I can spell unix. That's it.
That's all I know. Oh, and I don't mind work, I do know how to read,
and I don't mind work. I have a few other qualifications but that
first limitation is a killer ;-) With that said, here's what I need to
do in the next couple of weeks.
1 - set up a pentium 200 w/128MB RAM, 10GB IDE/HDD, ATAPI CD ROM,
NE2000 Linksys NIC, and Matrox 400 video card as a Linux only box, no
windows.
2 - minimally install a web server application (Apache??)
3 - install a web enabled RDBMS (mySQL??)
4 - get this wonderful new environment stable enough to serve as a
short term prototype for web development/hosting (until April or so)
to serve up pages on a NT hosted domain (1 NT server, clients are 4
Win98 machines).
5 - In the end, all the web pages hosted on this will move to Solaris
hosting the mySQL database on a commercial web host platform (Sun
Enterprise class servers).
FWIW - this installation will exist in isolation, no external access,
no fire walls, etc. The NT domain is running DHCP but I can specify
an address for the linux box if that matters. TCP/IP is running on
the NT domain.
Here come the questions -
1 - I have a purchased distribution of RedHat version 5/Intel. Is it
worth the effort to install this given all the changes that have taken
place in the kernel, etc.? Or should I go get a more recent
distribution that includes the updates and is hopefully easier to
install? If the latter, it seems that the Debian distribution is the
more versatile but installation is kind of scary. What are your
suggestions?
2 - The SQL database. Is mySQL available free in the configuration
that I'm talking about? How is support? How does the web-enabled
part work?
3 - Is there a choice about web servers? I know less about Apache
than I do about Unix... sometimes I feel really ignorant....
4 - I read in the .networking group about a package called SAMBA is it
necessary to install this package if all I need is to transfer files
back and forth (I've very comfortable with cuteFTP). I figure I could
just start the ftp service in linux. Is this true?
Whew - that should cover it for now. All input welcome. Please save
flame for after I know better :-)
The purpose of all this you ask?? Simple. I'm trying to get off of
Windows and on to unix open source hosts because of UCITA (I live in
Virginia). I'll save all rants for another forum ;-)
Thanks for your help!!
Sam
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From: James Bilitski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: This crahses linux
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 22:24:37 -0800
Will /etc/security/limits.conf fix this and if so, How do I have changes
made to that file take effect immediately w/o rebooting?
James Bilitski wrote:
> This program brought my linux system down in a hurry:
> int main
> {
> while (1)
> malloc(9999);
> }
>
> Anyone know how I can put some memory and cpu limitations on?
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From: Jeff Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there a word for below novice - need help
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:56:51 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have used RedHat 5,6, and 7. I like 7 the best and it can do what you
want.
I downloaded the iso disks from Redhat and burned the cd's to do the
install.
If you install 5, you can download the new 7 and install from hard disk.
Be sure to get the updates that they suggest, including gcc, and gclib.
Some reading for you.
http://www.linux.org/
http://www.linuxdoc.org/
http://www.redhat.com/
Any more questions?
Jeff Moore
Sam Piper wrote:
> ok - let's start with the facts. I can spell unix. That's it.
> That's all I know. Oh, and I don't mind work, I do know how to read,
> and I don't mind work. I have a few other qualifications but that
> first limitation is a killer ;-) With that said, here's what I need to
> do in the next couple of weeks.
>
> 1 - set up a pentium 200 w/128MB RAM, 10GB IDE/HDD, ATAPI CD ROM,
> NE2000 Linksys NIC, and Matrox 400 video card as a Linux only box, no
> windows.
>
> 2 - minimally install a web server application (Apache??)
>
> 3 - install a web enabled RDBMS (mySQL??)
>
> 4 - get this wonderful new environment stable enough to serve as a
> short term prototype for web development/hosting (until April or so)
> to serve up pages on a NT hosted domain (1 NT server, clients are 4
> Win98 machines).
>
> 5 - In the end, all the web pages hosted on this will move to Solaris
> hosting the mySQL database on a commercial web host platform (Sun
> Enterprise class servers).
>
> FWIW - this installation will exist in isolation, no external access,
> no fire walls, etc. The NT domain is running DHCP but I can specify
> an address for the linux box if that matters. TCP/IP is running on
> the NT domain.
>
> Here come the questions -
> 1 - I have a purchased distribution of RedHat version 5/Intel. Is it
> worth the effort to install this given all the changes that have taken
> place in the kernel, etc.? Or should I go get a more recent
> distribution that includes the updates and is hopefully easier to
> install? If the latter, it seems that the Debian distribution is the
> more versatile but installation is kind of scary. What are your
> suggestions?
>
> 2 - The SQL database. Is mySQL available free in the configuration
> that I'm talking about? How is support? How does the web-enabled
> part work?
>
> 3 - Is there a choice about web servers? I know less about Apache
> than I do about Unix... sometimes I feel really ignorant....
>
> 4 - I read in the .networking group about a package called SAMBA is it
> necessary to install this package if all I need is to transfer files
> back and forth (I've very comfortable with cuteFTP). I figure I could
> just start the ftp service in linux. Is this true?
>
> Whew - that should cover it for now. All input welcome. Please save
> flame for after I know better :-)
>
> The purpose of all this you ask?? Simple. I'm trying to get off of
> Windows and on to unix open source hosts because of UCITA (I live in
> Virginia). I'll save all rants for another forum ;-)
>
> Thanks for your help!!
>
> Sam
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Date: 29 Jan 2001 22:42:51 -0500
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: .XML docs, need to print them.
Gene Heskett sends Greetings to Bob McConnell;
BM> IE 5 or later, Netscape 5 or later, maybe Opera? If the XML file
BM> is valid, all of them should be able to render it readable and
BM> printable. Now if you want it validated, that may take a little
BM> more effort.
Thanks Bob, I finally did get it on paper, but what a struggle!
Since the html pages were made from the xml, I first had netscape 4.76
load the thml versions up and print them. The worked till about 10
pages into chapter 6, at which point my printer upchucked about 100
pages of blank paper, and kept doing it repeatedly.
So I then had netscape save it as a ps file, which I then copied to
scratch space on this amiga (thanks Samba), and sicced gs5.10 after
them. No hits, no runs, no errors with major problem only with speed,
this poor old miggy only has a 25mhz 040 in it which tends to redefine
'slow' compared to the 550mhz K6-3 in the linux box. I took the day out
to go to work, and just now got the last pages off the printer.
I see by the security sites that we are all advised to install
bind-8.2.3 immediately, if not sooner, or convert to bind-9.1.0 which is
supposed to be even better. So I've got very little time to become a bind
expert.
Experts, ISTR that was once defined as somebody with a briefcase, a tie,
and more than 50 miles from home :-)
Cheers, Gene
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From: James Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Root is Invalid!! HELP!!
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 05:01:19 GMT
Hello All :)
I am trying to assist a fellow student in the installation of Linux such
that he can do his programming from home (as opposed to sitting in a lab
with out the aids to over come his disabillites) this student is deaf,
and could not get a translator for his comp science course as such has
dropped out and is looking to learn C++ from Home.
I helped him work his way through an installation of Linux Mandrake 7.2
(kernal 2.3?) and all was well, we recieved the Congratulations Linux is
installed, and rebooted to start linux and ran into the following
problem:
We have set it up to run Dual Boot (2 separate hard drives) and
encounter the following message "Root is invalid" and are forced to
reboot.
Any Help with this would be appreciated.
If a message of your posting could be cc'd off to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I can try to help this student out.
Regards;
James Webb
Student Technicians and resource Tutors (S.T.A.R.T)
Mount Royal College,
Calgary Alberta, Canada
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From: Malcolm Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mouse pointer is a blank box
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 00:05:19 +1100
Help! only a beginner... would be nice to see a pointer rather than a
white square blob...
A Linux Mandrake 7.0 installation with GA-6VXE mainboard and
standard(?)
2 button A4Tech mouse attached (has round 6 pin interface).
The mainboard "supports PS/2 mouse. BIOS will auto-detect
whether it is installed".
Have experimented within XF86Config without success after the automatic
setup didn't work:
Section "Pointer"
#MH Protocol "PS/2"
#MH Protocol "Auto"
#MH Protocol "MouseMan"
Protocol "Logitech"
Device "/dev/mouse"
#MH versions didn't work.
TIA, much appreciated.
Malcolm Hudson
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