Linux-Setup Digest #710, Volume #20 Mon, 26 Feb 01 10:13:08 EST
Contents:
Re: Partition Scheme for Storm/Debian Linux (Brian S Enyart)
Re: Linux partitioning question (Jean-David Beyer)
Mouse wheel doesn't scroll X windows' (Larry Richardson)
Newbie question. ("Mr. Kipling")
Re: Trouble connecting SCSI AIT drive (Joshua Baker-LePain)
slckware 7.1 and promise ultra 66. Kernal panic. ("leatherface")
Re: mounting udf cds as nonroot (Chris Elvidge)
Re: make modules_install in 2.4.2 ("Gene Heskett")
USB information ("Jimmy Snake")
Re: ppp fails in Kernel 2.4.1 ("Gene Heskett")
Re: ppp fails in Kernel 2.4.1 (Daryl Fonseca-Holt)
Re: can't get redhat linux to recognize network ("eric gregory")
Re: Linux partitioning question ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Printer support for rh7 ("James")
Re: Mouse wheel doesn't scroll X windows' (Eggert Ehmke)
Re: Lost Win98 when Installing RH7 ("Shaun ONeil")
Re: Severe X problem ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Kernel 2.2.18 build problems ("Peter T. Breuer")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian S Enyart)
Crossposted-To: linux.debian.user
Subject: Re: Partition Scheme for Storm/Debian Linux
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:05:53 GMT
On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 21:00:56 GMT, Lacky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have settled on Storm/Debian as my distro of choice and will be
>building my new development box on Monday AM. What I need to figure
>out is a proper partioning scheme for this new box. Obvioulsy I will
>want a swap file, /, and /home. What about /usr, /usr/local, /var,
>/tmp? Do these need their ownpartitions? Are there other directories
>that need their own paritions?
Although there are certain advantages to multiple partitions, it
becomes harder to maintain the box the more you use.
/usr and /etc could benefit from being placed on a read-only partition,
and /var and /tmp (both of which can grow without bounds) are often
better off on their own partition. But, in reality, you could make
this as complicated as you'd like, and if you gain some benefits from
doing so, all the better.
I`ve used 2 data partitions for some time now, with / on one, and /var and
/home and /usr/local on the other. Using sym-links can greatly assist.
But, in general, if you can't answer the question "Why do I need
multiple partitions?", just run it all under a single one.
>What about size? How much should I allocate for swap, /, /home, etc.
>The box being built is a Duron 650 with 384MB of RAM, 15GB HD, CD-ROM,
>SCSI CD-RW and ZIP. I was thinking the following:
>
>Swap: 400mb
>/: 400mb
>/home: 3GB
Swap is okay, probably a bit excessive, but disk is cheap. You'll
probably find you'll never use that much.
I'd bump up / if you intend to install a reasonable number of applications.
1 Gig, probably.
--
Brian Enyart
http://members.iquest.net/~enyart
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Linux partitioning question
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 08:34:12 -0500
Rod Smith wrote (in part):
>
> [Posted and mailed]
>
> In article <97bpqn$e0o$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Gregg Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I'm reading up on setting up linux, and it states that many will setup
> > separate partitions for /usr and /home besides ones swap space. I would
> > like to ask you how you usually setup your partitioning. I was a little bit
> > confused on it, for you at least need a mounting point of root.
> ...
> > Maybe I'm just not thinking about this correctly. Any suggestions would be
> > appreciated!
>
> The drawback to creating multiple partitions is that it's hard to
> predict how large to make them. This is true of experienced users, but
> it's especially true for new users, who really have no idea how big
> these things should be.
I do not know how experienced I am, but after running R.H.L.5.0 for
a year, and R.H.L.6.0 for about two years, I wanted to install
R.H.L.6.2.3. I cannot be bothered to repartition any more often than
when doing an install. But it seems to me that after running any
release of Linux for a year, you should have a pretty good idea how
much stuff you need to put into any potential partition because you
already know what is in there (or you could find out with tools such
as df and du). It should not be difficult to estimate where the
growth areas might be. For example, /boot is unlikely to more than
double ever. / (if /usr, /home, /opt, /tmp, and /var and things like
that are removed) probably will not grow a whole lot. /opt and /home
would likely be large growth areas for home users. /tmp and /var
(for home users) probably need not be a large percentage of disk
space available and present useage patterns would likely remain the
same.
> Splitting off multiple partitions has several advantages, such as a
> reduced chance of problems should a runaway process create a too-large
> file and a reduced chance losing all your data in case of a filesystem
> problem. IMHO, these are all dwarfed for new users by the near certainty
> of getting partition sizes wrong, but those who know how big to make
> their partitions may prefer to split things up.
Also, if you make intensive use of your disk drive(s), and by
intensive use I mean that your system is frequently disk-IO limited,
you could put your partitions in the best possible order and, if you
have more than one hard drive, on the best possible hard drives, for
better performance. I have not done this, since when my machine is
too slow, it is compute-limited. And I am not really sure if that
would matter. If things were as bad as that, I would have to
consider faster drives (if available: mine are already 10,000 rpm
drives on Ultra-2 SCSI interface), more drives, and possibly (but
not likely) more SCSI controllers.
As I said, this does not seem to apply to my machine. I have run
test programs that achieve > 20 Megabyte/second IO rate through my
hard drives, but in the usual case, I seldom exceed 1
Megabyte/second, and 250 Kilobytes/second is more usual. And it is
not this slow because of all the delays for seeks (average seek
time: 5ms, average rotational latency time: 3ms), but because the
CPUs do not come up with the data fast enough.
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org
^^-^^ 8:15am up 5 days, 15:49, 3 users, load average: 2.04, 2.10,
2.29
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From: Larry Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mouse wheel doesn't scroll X windows'
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 06:47:56 -0600
What has to be changed to make Linux use input from a mouse wheel, in
particular to move scrollbars?
Thanks
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Mr. Kipling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Newbie question.
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:41:45 -0000
HELP!
I have installed Redhat 6.2, which is on a partitioned hard drive with
Windows 98.
I want to upgrade to Redhat 7 using my ADSL connection but the problem is
that RH 6.2 doesn't support ADSL and i can only use it form windows.
Can someone help please?
Mr. Kipling
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From: Joshua Baker-LePain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Trouble connecting SCSI AIT drive
Date: 26 Feb 2001 14:07:02 GMT
In comp.os.linux.hardware Joshua Baker-LePain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.hardware Matt Clay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I'm having trouble connecting an externally mounted Seagate
>> Sidewinder-50 AIT drive to a RH 7.0 box. The machine is using an Adaptec
>> 29160N SCSI controller card and has all the latest RH updates.
>> I've heard that there may be some incompatibilities between the 29160
>> card and the Sidewinder-50 and was wondering if anyone had found
>> anything similar?
> Is that an AIT-1 drive? Be *very* careful. AFAIK, all AIT-1 drives
> are Fast or UW SCSI only. In other words, HVD. The external connector
> on a 29160 is LVD. Connecting HVD devices to an LVD chain can lead to
> serious damage to the devices or the adapter itself without an
> appropriate (and expensive) LVD-HVD adapter.
Following up to myself here, because I was wrong. The AIT-1 drive is
likely Single Ended (SE). You *can* put an SE device on an LVD chain --
it just forces the whole chain (including any other LVD devices) into
the much slower (and more highly restricted cable length) SE mode.
Oops.
--
Joshua Baker-LePain
Department of Biomedical Engineering
Duke University
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From: "leatherface" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: slckware 7.1 and promise ultra 66. Kernal panic.
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 14:09:42 GMT
I am trying to install Slackware 7.1 on to a hard disk that is connected to
an Promise IDE Ultra 66 controller. I read the howto and put the right
command line parameter. mount ide2=0xa400,0xa802 . (i've tried ide1, ide0
also)
The matrox hard drive is dected, and so are all the partations. But when it
goes to mount it, I get a bunch of error messages and then it says cant not
mount root fs. Anybody know whats wrong?
0xa400 (a)
0xa800 (b)
0xac00 (c)
0xb000 (d)
0xb400 (e)
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From: Chris Elvidge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: mounting udf cds as nonroot
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 18:09:44 +0400
Matt Haley wrote:
>
> On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:28:38 -0500,
> Gregory Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >either an iso cd or a udf cd in the same drive as a user! Still, I don't
> >know why the auto entry in fstab doesn't find udf. Maybe this is something
> >that needs to be addressed in the next version of mount. dunno.
>
> From the man page for mount (concerning the '-t' option):
>
> The type iso9660 is the default. If no -t option
> is given, or if the auto type is specified, the
> superblock is probed for the filesystem type
> (minix, ext, ext2, xiafs, iso9660, romfs ,ufs,
> ntfs, qnx4, bfs are supported). If this probe
> fails, mount will try to read the file
> /etc/filesystems, or, if that does not exist,
> /proc/filesystems. All of the filesystem types
> listed there will be tried, except for those that
> are labeled "nodev" (e.g., devpts, proc and nfs).
>
> It appears that udf isn't in the list of filesystems that 'auto' checks for.
>
> --
> Matt Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Mandrake 7.2 / RedHat 6.1 / Windows 98 SE / FreeBSD 4.2 / Windows NT 4
I haven't got /etc/filesystems but in /proc/filesystems:
ext2
reiserfs
umsdos
msdos
vfat
nodev proc
nodev smbfs
nodev ncpfs
iso9660
nodev autofs
nodev devpts
Can/should I just copy this to /etc/filesystems? Does the nodev on
autofs stop an auto type mount?
TIA
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Date: 26 Feb 2001 8:54:40 -0500
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: make modules_install in 2.4.2
Gene Heskett sends Greetings to Paul Kimoto;
PK> In article <97cjm5$bdc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, inon wrote:
>> I downloaded the modutils-2.4.2.tar.bz2.
>> ./configure --> success
>> make --> gives error "linux/limits.h" no such file or directory.
>>
>> I have kernel-2.4.2 sources that compiled successfully with a
>> symbolic link "ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/asm
>> /usr/include/linux." After compiling and installing 2.4.2 kernel,
>> 'make modules_install' failed. So, I downloaded modutils-2.4.2
>> which is giving me problems.
PK> In building the kernel proper (although not all of the userspace
PK> helper tools), the header files in /usr/src/linux/include are
PK> accessed directly rather than going through the links in
PK> /usr/include.
PK> If your system is one that uses the symbolic links, they should
PK> be
PK> /usr/include/linux -> /usr/src/linux/include/linux
PK> /usr/include/asm -> /usr/src/linux/include/asm
PK> (and the latter should be a symbolic link to the appropriate
PK> asm-SOMEARCHITECTURE directory).
One minor nit to pick here, Paul. I've noticed that the link to the
proper /usr/include/asm isn't made until after I've done a 'make
oldconfig' in the freshly unpacked and patched kernel tree. That could
probably catch the unwary, as it did me as I was making the switch to
2.4.
Cheers, Gene
--
Gene Heskett, CET, UHK |Amiga A2k Zeus040, Linux @ 500mhz
email gene underscore heskett at iolinc dot net
#Amiga based X10 home automation program EZHome, see at:#
<http://www.thirdwave.net/~jimlucia/amigahomeauto>
This messages reply content, but not any previously quoted material,
is � 2001 by Gene Heskett, all rights reserved.
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From: "Jimmy Snake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: USB information
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 14:30:44 GMT
Where can i find detailed Howto's or docs about USB devices under linux ?
having trouble getting my iFeelMouseMan USB to work and tried nearly all the
doc's/Howto's I could find.
tnx
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Date: 26 Feb 2001 8:57:47 -0500
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ppp fails in Kernel 2.4.1
Gene Heskett sends Greetings to Lee Lik;
LLW> Hi,
LLW> I have compiled kernel 2.4.1 on my RH 7.0 system. However,
LLW> when ppp always fail to connect. The following reported in
LLW> /var/log/messages:
LLW> ioctl(PPPIOCGFLAGS): Invalid argument
LLW> Does anyone know how to I can solve this? It doesn't occur in
LLW> the previous kernel 2.4.0 and I use very similar options in the
LLW> .config
LLW> Thanks in advance,
LLW> Lik Wee
Did you read Documentation/changes? You'll need a new version of ppp,
which used to be maintained by Paul Maccarras at linuxcare.com.au, but
they've merged, and I couldn't find it there a few days ago, only the
older 2.3.xx versions were available on the pages I checked.
Cheers, Gene
--
Gene Heskett, CET, UHK |Amiga A2k Zeus040, Linux @ 500mhz
email gene underscore heskett at iolinc dot net
#Amiga based X10 home automation program EZHome, see at:#
<http://www.thirdwave.net/~jimlucia/amigahomeauto>
This messages reply content, but not any previously quoted material,
is � 2001 by Gene Heskett, all rights reserved.
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daryl Fonseca-Holt)
Subject: Re: ppp fails in Kernel 2.4.1
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 08:23:46 -0600
Did you check the Documenation/Changes file that comes with the kernel to
ensure you have the correct version of pppd? I believe it requires at least
2.4.0 of pppd.
HTH,
Wyatt
On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 21:41:33 +0800, Lee Lik Wee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I have compiled kernel 2.4.1 on my RH 7.0 system. However,
>when ppp always fail to connect. The following reported in
>/var/log/messages:
>
>ioctl(PPPIOCGFLAGS): Invalid argument
>
>Does anyone know how to I can solve this? It doesn't occur in the
>previous kernel 2.4.0 and I use very similar options in the .config
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Lik Wee
>
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From: "eric gregory" <eric"youknowwhatyoucandowithyourspam"@clarksville.com>
Subject: Re: can't get redhat linux to recognize network
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 08:47:59 -0600
it is correct, I have actually checked and double checked that.
"inon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:977cl0$2u9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Check IP of "Default Gateway"
>
>
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux partitioning question
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 15:21:14 +0100
In comp.os.linux.misc Doug Lutterloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have never agreed with the suggested partitioning scheme in most
> install docs for Linux, at least not for the home user. I usually set up
> with 3 partitions on my machine. One for windoze because I dual
> boot, one for Linux swap, and one for Linux. Why confuse the issue?!!?
Because you will die horribly. Your /var and /home are on the same
partition as your fixed system. read the partition-HOWTO to learn more!
(ignorance is NOT a good reason for doing something ..=)
> Why do I want to guess how much I will need for /home and /usr when
> I can just lump them together in one big partition and use all my
> space as efficiently as possible.
If you don't know, then plainly you should go and find out. Check the
HOWTO.
Peter
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From: "James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Printer support for rh7
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 15:52:18 +0100
look at www.linuxprinting.org
"Andrew Diaczyk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:7mim6.202255$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have a okidata microline 320 will that work with linux.
>
>
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From: Eggert Ehmke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mouse wheel doesn't scroll X windows'
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 15:53:02 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 26 Feb 2001 06:47:56 -0600, Larry Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>What has to be changed to make Linux use input from a mouse wheel, in
>particular to move scrollbars?
Imwheel may help:
http://jonatkins.org/imwheel/
If you have XFree86 4 and KDE2, it is enough to put this in your XF86config
file (in the InputDevice section of your mouse)
Option "Buttons" "5"
Option"ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
--
Eggert Ehmke
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Shaun ONeil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lost Win98 when Installing RH7
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 21:58:25 -0000
Can you boot your Win98 CD? If so you can boot the CD into DOS and then use
a:\fdisk /mbr
to restore a windows boot sector.
Shaun.
"Paul Chapman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I recently installed RedHat 7 on a Dell desktop that was running Windows
> 98. The install went well except that now Windows 98 refuses to boot no
> matter what I do. I have read all the how-to's I can find. Lilo looks
> ok (it is in the mbr).
>
> I tested it after partitioning and before installing linux (and lilo)
> and Win98 worked fine then. It stopped working after the linux install.
>
> I tried removing it (lilo - u) as well as copying the boot.0300 file
> back to hda. Nothing makes any difference.
>
> I can't even use the old win98 rescue and boot diskettes to get it
> going. It just hangs with a blinking curserl. Some advice on the list
> seems to indicate that lilo is dangerous on the mbr but it is too late
> for that now.
>
> Any advice would be appreciated.
> Thanks, Paul
>
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.config,redhat.general
Subject: Re: Severe X problem
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 15:40:51 +0100
H.A.J. van Niekerk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> _FontTransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
> failed to set default font path 'unix/:-1'
Well, remove it from your font path then! (or start up the xfm
server that is supposed to supply that path component).
This is a faq. Your variant appears to arise in connection with xfree86
version 4, however, so be sure to check that you are just not failing
by virtue of trying to apply version 3.6 concepts to version 4 .. I am
not even certain that there is a font server facility in version 4.
> Fatal server error:
> could not open default font 'fixed'
yeah, well, obviously. Fix your font path.
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.2.18 build problems
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 15:47:27 +0100
inon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> David wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>>It looks like you need to make these links and try it again.
>>
>>cd /usr/include
>>
>> rm -rf asm linux scsi
>>
>> ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/asm-i386 asm
>>
>> ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/linux linux
>>
>> ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/scsi scsi
>>
>>--
>>Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
>>Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
>>ID # 123538
>>Completed more W/U's than 99.082% of seti users. +/- 0.01%
> I compiled 2.2.16 before, and everything fly by great. Why this happens only
> with this 2.2.18 !!! (wondering).
Incorrect hypothesis.
> Now, deleting dirs and creating symbolic links (as explained above) a work
> around or it is the only way to solve my issue!!!
What do you mean? It fixes your messup, in all probability. There is
some chance that it might not, and some chance that it might. The
balance of probabilities is with "might". Now it's up to you to figure
out why .. we don't have access to your disk.
The above links are CORRECT, provided that your kernel source is in
/usr/src/linux. (never mind what your distro says they should be).
Another question is whether you have installed a clean kernel source
there. In all probability, you haven't. /usr/src/linux should be a
symbolic link to /usr/src/linux-2.2.18, which should contain new
pristine source.
It is proable that your distro include subdirectories of kernel
headxers in /usr/include. If you install new kernel sources, this will
or may provoke mismatches. One of the easiest and safest solutions is
to remove their mess and put in links to your new sources instead.
Another solution is to compile with an explicit
-I/usr/src/linux-2.2.18/include on the compile lines. But I'm not
going to waste time telling you about that :-)
Peter
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