Linux-Setup Digest #727, Volume #20 Wed, 28 Feb 01 23:13:09 EST
Contents:
Re: Linux And AMD (Rich Torti)
Re: Installing Linux 6.1 Red Hat (Rich Torti)
Linux-Mandrake install stops when trying to initialize CDROM drive ("Zhan")
ppp (2.4) not working with kernel 2.2.4 (john bell)
Re: Linux partitioning question (Tim Moore)
Re: Linux partitioning question (Floyd Davidson)
Re: How to install Mesa with widget support? (Steve Martin)
Re: Linux partitioning question ("Cjv")
Re: Linux partitioning question ("Cjv")
Re: Can't change permissions on vfat partitions ! (H.Bruijn)
Re: Problem mounting ZIP 250 USB drive (E J)
knocking sound for MP3 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Cannot install Suse 7.0 (newbie) ("Tim Cuthbertson")
Re: Linux partitioning question (Tim Moore)
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From: Rich Torti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux And AMD
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 18:18:21 -0600
I just installed RH 6.2 on a system with a 1.0 GHz Athlon and have had no
problems (in this respect).
Rich Torti
Nick Dohr wrote:
> The redhat.com website always talks about intel processors int thie
> installation guide, say i have a 1.2Ghz Athlon Tbird and i want red hat on
> there, am i out of luck or will it work properly?
>
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From: Rich Torti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing Linux 6.1 Red Hat
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 18:26:57 -0600
I have successfully loaded the Red Hat v.6.2 linux version as server on a dual
boot system with win95, so it is possible. Which version of linux are you
using and what software are you using to partition?
Rich Torti
Studeski wrote:
> I really don't have a clue of how Linux works but would like to learn. I am
> trying to load Linux (Gnome) on a W98 machine but when I partition I never
> get the 'Next' button so I can continue. I've had this almost a year and
> have tried 6 times. This is frustrating. I understand you cannot load
> 'server' with another OS in place, is that true?
> Thanks in advance.
>
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From: "Zhan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux-Mandrake install stops when trying to initialize CDROM drive
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:30:25 -0500
I'm trying to install Linux-Mandrake 7.2. I have tried booting from the
CDROM, a CDROM boot floppy, and a hard disk boot floppy. The issue occurs
with all 3 install methods. The install program initializes and works fine
the first time, but the second time, the install program stops. Near the
bottom of the screen, the words "in second installation phase" (or something
to that effect) appear. I have to actually cut the power to reboot. Any
advice?
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From: john bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ppp (2.4) not working with kernel 2.2.4
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 00:30:11 -0000
hey all having trouble and i cant get it straightened out...when I use
wvdial I connect, 2 seconds later i get an "Error = 2" message, when I use
kinternet I get:
linux is installed into the kernel, no module support
linux pppd[785]: /usr/lib/passwordfd.so: invalid ELF header (tried
recompiling)
linux pppd[785]: Couldn't load plugin /usr/lib/passwordfd.so
cant locate module ppp0 (why am i getting this? it isnt a module and even
if it is a module i did the make-module stuff for the kernel)
Also when linux boots i get these messages (after upgrading to 2.2.4)
/etc/modules.conf More recent than /lib/modules/2.4.2/modules.dep
and then in the Logwindow in X86 I get
"Linux Kernel: Cannot Find Map File
Hope I gave enough info
thanks alot
John
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From: Tim Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux partitioning question
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 00:42:48 GMT
> > place for /tmp to physically be located. Both /tmp and /usr/tmp
> > should be symlinks to /var/tmp.
> >
> How would I symlink /tmp and /usr/tmp to /var/tmp when they seem to be
> created automatically when I do the install?? (Im a newbie)
# go to single user mode
init 1
# move anything you want to save to /var/tmp
cd /tmp
cp -av . /var/tmp
cd /usr/tmp
cp -av . /var/tmp
# remove the old directories
rm -rvf /tmp /usr/tmp
# make new links
cd /
ln -s /var/tmp
cd /usr
ln -s /var/tmp
# sanity check
ls -l / | grep tmp
ls -l /usr | grep tmp
# reboot
init 6
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From: Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux partitioning question
Date: 28 Feb 2001 15:08:37 -0900
"Cjv" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Floyd Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith) wrote:
>
>> For instance, in most of the multi-partition examples shown in
>> this thread there have been both a /tmp and a /var partition.
>> That is an unnecessary waste of disk space. The /var partition
>> is going to suffer high fragmentation, which is one reason it
>> should be a separate partition, but that also makes it a great
>> place for /tmp to physically be located. Both /tmp and /usr/tmp
>> should be symlinks to /var/tmp.
>>
> How would I symlink /tmp and /usr/tmp to /var/tmp when they seem to be
>created automatically when I do the install?? (Im a newbie)
Let the install do whatever it does, but once it is finished,
part of customizing your system can be to change whatever the
install did, to what you want. The only thing you _don't_
want the install to do is make a separate partition for /tmp,
unless of course you want it to stay that way (and I can't see
any reason one would want both a /tmp and a /var partition).
>> Other obvious candidates for locating on other partitions with a
>> symlink are /usr/local, /usr/X11, /opt, and where ever it is
>> that emacs/xemacs or tex are located.
>>
>> Likewise the /home directory can actually be on one or more
>> other partitions. /home itself can be a symlink, but so can
>> each user's directory if that is useful (as might be for the
>> /home/ftp directory, as an example).
>>
>> Hence, while it is possible to get / or /usr partitions too
>> small, they will be too small to even install the first time if
>> that is true. If those partitions are large enough to actually
>> manage a functional install to begin with, they *never* require
>> resizing.
>
>Floyd, If I were to do a fresh install then, how many original
>partitions do you suggest I create? Then how would I use
>symlinks (as you describe)? Would this approach be harder to
>restore if one of the partitions became unstable?
It is very difficult for me to suggest what would be best for
you! It might be that for you, one big partition actually is
the best. Certainly if you want to learn "proper" (whatever
that is) UNIX systems administration you will want a number of
"unnecessary" partitions. You might want two or more root
partitions, each with different distributions on them, as an
example.
Personally, I would _at least_ want a separate /, /boot, /var
and some number of other miscellaneous partitions that I usually
mount on /u1, /u2, /u3, etc. (Note there is no separate /usr
partition listed, though usually I do like a separate /usr
partition too. I also like a separate /usr/local.) I almost
always make /home a symlink to a directory on a /u* partition.
(I also like to have at least 2 swap partitions, each on a
different disk...)
If you have a backup system that is restricted in size, it is
very handy to limit partitions such as /home to some size that
allows the entire partition to fit on one tape.
Symlinks are handy when you discover, six months after you did
an install, that your 500Mb /usr partition just isn't large
enough. There is no need to re-partition the disk in order to
have more room to add new software. If the disk itself is too
small, just add another disk. But whether another disk is added
or whether all the extra space on the existing disk is in the
wrong partition makes little difference. The point is you can
use symlinks rather than go through the pain of re-partitioning
the disk.
--
Floyd L. Davidson <http://www.ptialaska.net/~floyd>
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.graphics.api.opengl
Subject: Re: How to install Mesa with widget support?
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:40:11 -0500
Rob Wang wrote:
> I installed the binary code of Mesa-3.4 in Linux from rpm file. I found
> that the widget support was not installed, that is, you cannot find the
> include files GLwDrawA.h etc.
Download the source code and build it. The Mesa drawing widgets are in
the
"widgets-mesa" subdirectory.
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From: "Cjv" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux partitioning question
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:44:32 -0800
"Tim Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > place for /tmp to physically be located. Both /tmp and /usr/tmp
> > > should be symlinks to /var/tmp.
> > >
> > How would I symlink /tmp and /usr/tmp to /var/tmp when they seem to
be
> > created automatically when I do the install?? (Im a newbie)
>
> # go to single user mode
> init 1
>
> # move anything you want to save to /var/tmp
> cd /tmp
> cp -av . /var/tmp
> cd /usr/tmp
> cp -av . /var/tmp
>
> # remove the old directories
> rm -rvf /tmp /usr/tmp
>
> # make new links
> cd /
> ln -s /var/tmp
> cd /usr
> ln -s /var/tmp
>
> # sanity check
> ls -l / | grep tmp
> ls -l /usr | grep tmp
>
> # reboot
> init 6
>
> --
> timothymoore
> bigfoot
> com
Forgive my ignorance, please, but you lost me a couple of times here,
and I'd appreciate it if you help me understand a few
things here. Thanks...
>cp -av . /var/tmp # Are you using the '.' as a wildcard? Im wondering why
not an '*'
> cd /
> ln -s /var/tmp # I thought that a symbolic link had to be named. If it
doesnt, then how do programs (for example) that
normally would write to the /tmp directory be able to find it?
As you can see , I dont have any Unix background, and Im just trying to
learn about things (like this) that I havent come across
in any of the things I've been reading.
Thanks, Chris
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From: "Cjv" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux partitioning question
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:52:12 -0800
> >Floyd, If I were to do a fresh install then, how many original
> >partitions do you suggest I create? Then how would I use
> >symlinks (as you describe)? Would this approach be harder to
> >restore if one of the partitions became unstable?
>
> It is very difficult for me to suggest what would be best for
> you! It might be that for you, one big partition actually is
> the best. Certainly if you want to learn "proper" (whatever
> that is) UNIX systems administration you will want a number of
> "unnecessary" partitions. You might want two or more root
> partitions, each with different distributions on them, as an
> example.
>
> Personally, I would _at least_ want a separate /, /boot, /var
> and some number of other miscellaneous partitions that I usually
> mount on /u1, /u2, /u3, etc. (Note there is no separate /usr
> partition listed, though usually I do like a separate /usr
> partition too. I also like a separate /usr/local.) I almost
> always make /home a symlink to a directory on a /u* partition.
> (I also like to have at least 2 swap partitions, each on a
> different disk...)
>
> If you have a backup system that is restricted in size, it is
> very handy to limit partitions such as /home to some size that
> allows the entire partition to fit on one tape.
>
> Symlinks are handy when you discover, six months after you did
> an install, that your 500Mb /usr partition just isn't large
> enough. There is no need to re-partition the disk in order to
> have more room to add new software. If the disk itself is too
> small, just add another disk. But whether another disk is added
> or whether all the extra space on the existing disk is in the
> wrong partition makes little difference. The point is you can
> use symlinks rather than go through the pain of re-partitioning
> the disk.
Actually Ive done about 10 installations so far, and Im just trying to
discover new options, so Im more interested in what might be 'right for me'
down the road, or in certain circumstances. I think Im mainly interested
because I dont fully understand how to backup/restore , and so last time I
restored my entire /etc directory over the newly installed /etc directory
and was lucky enough to remember my old passwords. I had to reconfiggure
everything, basically I screwed the job up.
So, I appreciate the information as Im sure it will help me later on. Thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.Bruijn)
Subject: Re: Can't change permissions on vfat partitions !
Date: 1 Mar 2001 01:58:08 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 01 Mar 2001 00:06:07 +0100, Cedric Chausson allegedly wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>I noticed I was unable to write files on vfat partitions under user
>accounts while I was able to do it under root. I checked fstab and made
>sure I had set the option rw for those partitions. Then I checked the
>file permissions on those partitions :
>
>-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 151 avr 20 2000 liprefs.js
>drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 32768 f�v 3 13:12 mIRC
>
>The write permission is missing. So I tried to change those using chmod
>under root but it had no effect !
>
>Anybody have an idea ?
Remember that vfat doesn't have native pemissions and owners, so that
trying to change them, whith chmod, or chown is impossible. They are set
in the mount options in /etc/fstab. See "man mount" and "man fstab" for
more info, especially in the FAT and VFAT sections.
My suggestion would thus be to make the windows partition completely
owned by an user, by adding the options uid=cedric,guid=cedric where
you substitute cedric with the correct (g)uid. You can find those with
the "id" command.
The default permissions are set with umask variable, umask=002 is pretty
standard.
The result would be something like:
/dev/hda5 /mnt/win vfat user,uid=1001,guid=501,exec,umask=002 0 0
The mount option "user" means the partition isn't mounted at boot, but
can be mounted by any user as needed. Other would be to use the option
"auto" the partition is then mounted at boot.
The "umask" works like this. By default files are created with
permissions set as " 666 - umask" and directories will have permissions
" 777 - umask" so an umask value of 023 will set the permissions of all
files you create by default to 643 = "-rw-r--r--" and directories to
754 = "drwxr-xr--"
The octal number for permissions are as follows:
The first number is the user permissions, which hold for the user owning
the file. Second number defines the group permissions, which hold for
all members of the group owning the file. And the third the "world"
permissions, for everyone who isn't covered by the first two.
The number is an increment for the possible perms,
1 make the the file execuatble
2 write permissions
3 = 1 + 2 = executable + writeable
4 read permissions.
5 = 1 + 4 = executable + read
6 = 2 + 4 = read + write
7 = 1 + 2 + 4 = executable + read + write
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem mounting ZIP 250 USB drive
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 02:23:50 GMT
Usually PC formatted ZIP drive puts DOS partition on the 4th partition.
try this
# mount -t vfat /dev/sda4 /mnt/usbzip
Cedric Chausson wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> When I try to mount my ZIP USB drive (mount -t vfat /dev/sda
> /mnt/usbzip) with a PC formated disk (empty or full), I get the following error :
>
> mount : type fs incorrect, incorrect option, incorrect superblock on /dev/sda,
> or too many filesystems mounted.
>
> The drive light flashes and I hear the drive starts to spin but it just
> gives out that error message. Anybody have an idea ?
>
> Note :
> _ I have all necessary USB options enabled in kernel (no modules)
> _ I have the USB device filesystem mounted ok (entry in fstab), i can
> see the entry in /proc/bus/usb
> _ I have set the necessary options for scsi. I can see information on my
> device in proc/scsi/scsi.
> _ I have created a usbzip directory in /mnt.
> _
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: knocking sound for MP3
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:27:10 -0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
I downloaded some mp3 files and use mpg123. However,
the only thing I could hear was something like a
person knocking the door. This is what I did:
> mpg123 song.mp3
The mp3 files are good on other machines. My
speakers are good for playing .wav files without any
problem. What problem could it be?
Thanks a lot for your help.
=====
Robert Lee
Software Engineer
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From: "Tim Cuthbertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Cannot install Suse 7.0 (newbie)
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:42:41 -0600
I have tried lots of methods, all end up the same. Either loadlin/YAST2 or
boot directly from cdrom. When it informs me that it is detecting my system,
it hangs indefinitely.
I have a Pentium II with 128 mb RAM, Adaptec 2940UW, Plextor scsi cdrom, and
two Seagate UW scsi disk drives.
Sometimes it gives me error after error of timeouts on scsi 0,0,0 which is
the disk drive where I have 8 gig of free space. If I ever get Linux to
install, I plan to use a 128 MB swap partition and a 4 gig root partition.
Once, I booted to a floppy with cdrom support and ran setup from the Linux
cd. I added scsi support module for 2940UW. That one time, YAST2 started and
ran a little while until it started detecting my system. It went to 50%
complete and then hung. I waited about 15 minutes, but nothing. The mouse
still worked.
Then, I figured out how to change the scsi bios to allow boot directly from
cd. This time (twice, actually) it seemed to load several items, but it
eventually started trying to detect my system, then it hung.
Any help will be much appreciated.
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From: Tim Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux partitioning question
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 03:46:07 GMT
> >cp -av . /var/tmp # Are you using the '.' as a wildcard? Im wondering why
> not an '*'
"copy preserving all file attributes and showing all files as they're
copied, everything in the current directory (.) to /var/tmp"
'cp * /var/tmp' would miss links, files starting with '.', sockets,
fifo's and other special file types. The -a option makes an exact copy
including subdirectories, permissions, dates & times.
> > ln -s /var/tmp # I thought that a symbolic link had to be named. If it
> doesnt, then how do programs (for example) that
> normally would write to the /tmp directory be able to find it?
"create a soft link (-s) to A (/var/tmp) named B but if B isn't given,
use the last part of A (tmp) as the name"
> ls -l link
ls: link: No such file or directory
> ln -s /var/link
> ls -l link
lrwxrwxrwx 1 tim tim 9 Feb 28 19:30 link ->
/var/link
> rm link
> ln -s /var/link link
> ls -l link
lrwxrwxrwx 1 tim tim 9 Feb 28 19:31 link ->
/var/link
> As you can see , I dont have any Unix background, and Im just trying to
> learn about things (like this) that I havent come across
> in any of the things I've been reading.
That's why I gave a step by step way do to it. We all started from
zero.
--
timothymoore
bigfoot
com
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