Linux-Setup Digest #750, Volume #20 Sun, 4 Mar 01 16:13:10 EST
Contents:
Re: Kernel Panic, or hang off boot disk... (David R. Bergstein)
printing german umlauts (Richard Esser)
Re: modules problem (Andrew Kae)
Re: Cannot su ("David Miller")
Re: Please HELP: Netgear FA311 troubles ("Peter T. Breuer")
HP N5130 compaitibility? (Ken Knecht)
Re: I know I'm boring. . . but ("Cjv")
cdrecord -scanbus ("campbell")
Re: Please HELP: Netgear FA311 troubles (Erik Max Francis)
Re: Netscape6 crashes like crazy under RH7 (Brad Sims)
Re: How-to- Linux on Unix?? (Steve Martin)
Re: Netscape6 crashes like crazy under RH7 (Steve Martin)
Re: Triple Booting? (DVHandorf)
Re: Do daemons corrupt system security? (DVHandorf)
Re: HP N5130 compaitibility? (E J)
Re: Installation Problem ("Tim Cuthbertson")
Re: Do daemons corrupt system security? (Bill Unruh)
Re: Please HELP: Netgear FA311 troubles ("Peter T. Breuer")
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From: David R. Bergstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.install,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Kernel Panic, or hang off boot disk...
Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:00:49 -0500
Terry Denbo wrote:
> I had to replace my SCSI card, unfortunately it was with a different
> brand. When booting up, I get a kernel panic, because it's loading the
> wrong drivers. I try booting off a boot disk, type "linux single", but
it get's to a certian point and hangs at this point:
>
> VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
> change_root: old root has d_count=1
> Trying to unmount old root ... okay
> Freeing unused kernel memory: 64k freed
Try booting from an emergency disk like tomsroot disk. I use it for these
kinds of emergencies. Just make sure you have a driver handy for you new
card and load it via insmod.
Then mount your root filesystem and when ready to run lilo do something
like this:
mount /dev/sd0 /mnt (or whatever your SCSII drive is)
cd /mnt
[edit the ./etc/lilo.conf file if required]
chroot ./sbin/lilo -C ./etc/lilo.conf
^ note the leading dot is required
Hope this helps!!
--
David R. Bergstein
Systems Engineer and Blues Musician - http://members.phoenixdsl.com/~dbergst
Heart of Blue - bookings on-line at http://www.heartofblue.com
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Key fingerprint = F65D A2E0 805C C6D0 78EC 61AC 34C0 BB74 460A 4F20
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From: Richard Esser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: printing german umlauts
Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 19:03:48 +0100
hi,
my terminal supports german umlauts, and I have a dot matrix printer
attached to lp0.
but when I do "echo ��� > /dev/lp0", only strange characters appear on
the paper. The printer has DIP switches to set the character set which
is used, but it has no effect when I set it to german, except that
other strange characters appear.
do you have any ideas how to teach my printer to print german umlauts
with linux ?
and there's another problem :
I installed apsfilter, but it didn't work- so I removed it again.. but
after removing it "lpr filename" doesn't work anymore i.e. it results
in nothing .. any ideas how to solve this ?
thanks for your help ! - with best regards : Richard
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From: Andrew Kae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: modules problem
Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:12:43 -0500
Thanks guys,
The new modutils did the trick. Guess I should read the
Documentation/Changes files more often =3D)
Gosh, this new kernel is pretty cool what with pnp built in
and reiser fs too. It even cleared up an old problem with my
old 2.2.14 kernel starting dhcpcd.
Well, thanks everyone.
andrew
On 4 Mar 2001, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Gene Heskett sends Greetings to Michael Heiming;
>=20
> MH> Gene Heskett wrote:
>=20
> >> Gene Heskett sends Greetings to Zed ;
> >>
> >> > Andrew Kae wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hello everyone,
> >> >>
> >> >> I just compiled a new 2.4.2 kernel and I'm having some
> >> >> difficulty setting up the modules correctly. For some reason my
> >> >> modules.dep file in
> >> >> /lib/modules/2.4.2 is empty. I've made kernels before and this
> >> >> never happened before.
> >> >>
> >> >> The steps i did were
> >> >>
> >> >> =3D> make mrproper
> >> >> =3D> make menuconfig
> >> >> =3D> make bzImage
> >> >> =3D> make modules
> >> >> =3D> make modules_install
> >> >>
> >> >> and the modules are in /lib/modules/2.4.2, it's just that that
> >> >> modules.dep is blank. Is there a quick way to generate this
> >> >> file? I tried making the modules and then installing them again
> >> >> but it's still blank.
> >> >>
> >> >> thanks
> >>
> >> > depmod -a
> >>
> >> Which won't do a thing if he has not read the Documentaion/Changes
> >> file and installed the newer set of utils that files says the 2.4
> >> kernels need. modutils is among them because the tree in the
> >> /lib/modules/ver directory has been modified. Including ppp,
> >> there are at least 4 supporting utilities that must also be
> >> updated.
> >>
> >> This gets pointed this out to someone at least daily.
>=20
> My my, such mangling of the language I did there, the second 'this' is
> obviously not needed.
>=20
> MH> Thx, as it's not needed anymore to type depmod -a,
> MH> make modules_install takes care of this with 2.4.x..
>=20
> My 'makeit' script still does that. Thats a line I can comment out
> then... Thx
>=20
> Cheers, Gene
> --=20
> Gene Heskett, CET, UHK |Amiga A2k Zeus040, Linux @ 500mhz=20
> =09email gene underscore heskett at iolinc dot net
> #Amiga based X10 home automation program EZHome, see at:#
> <http://www.thirdwave.net/~jimlucia/amigahomeauto>
> This messages reply content, but not any previously quoted material,
> is =A9 2001 by Gene Heskett, all rights reserved.
> --=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cannot su
Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 18:33:32 GMT
Problem is resolve. There was a PAM config issue.
"David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:mSio6.27119$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am unable to use su when logged in with a regular user.
> It works fine as root. I have checked the permissions they are -rwsr-xr-x.
>
> Has anyone seen this before.
>
>
>
>
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Please HELP: Netgear FA311 troubles
Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 19:32:00 +0100
In comp.os.linux.help Scot Mc Pherson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>[ptb wrote]
>> Running RH 7 is bad enough news in itself. You need to change the
>> compiler to gcc 2.91.66 (or 2.8.1 or 2.7.2) to compile kernels.
> I am aware of the beta-ness of the current supplied compiler in rh7, been
It is not beta, it is simply wrong. It was a development snapshot
adopted by redhat as part of a marketting ploy, never mind little
technical matters like it being binary incompatible with everything.
> there done that with the 2.4.2 kernel on another machine.
And you are using 2.91.66, right?
> Yes the files are named in all-caps...i.e. FA311.O as opposed to
> fa311.o...if this isn't an obvious problem, then I fear for you too.
Once again, I ask you to make yourself clear: What do you mean by "are
named in"? Are you talking about the filename on disk? The documentation?
The tarfile? Why should you care? (I don't!).
They can call it what they like in the docs, for example. If it's that
way in the tar file, then so what? You don't use object files compiled
elsewhere, you compile your own.
>> What do you mean by "rhX version of ..". Drivers depend on a kernel,
>> not on a distribution! Which kernel is which driver aimed at, and
>> which kernel source are you using? Please be clear. It is likely that
>> your problem is some confusion in this area. Be aware that rh7 provides
>> fake kernel headers in /usr/include/{linux,asm} that you might do well
>> to get rid of, since they are for kernel 2.2.X (for X=14 or 15 or 17 -
>> I forget which).
> I mean rh7 version because that is how the drivers are listed on the
> website...I would suggest you keep your sarcasm in check until at least you
> are clear the other person is unclear...
When you become clear, perhaps you might appreciate the depths of your
unclarity at present. So ... never mind what they say, what kernel are
the various drivers aimed at and which kernel do you have, and which
source do you have? (it appears that you have changed kernel at least
once).
If you start answering the questions we might get somewhere!
>> What do you mean? A file can only exist in one instantiation! Do you
>> mean that there are two Makefiles, in different places? So what?
>> You don't "run" a makefile, so I presume you mean "when I run make".
> No, I mean there is a file called makefile and makefile.dat when I extract
> the files from the archive I get makefile.dat and makefile(1).dat with
You mean "makefile" and "makefile.dat"?
> exactly the same contents. You presume too much.
If they are exactly the same, which I doubt (since I imagine
that the makefile has a "include makefile.dat" in it), then it doesn't
matter, since the makefile is the one that is used.
Please be clear. What do you mean by "makefile(1).dat"?
>> Eh? What are you talking about?
> I am talking about pretending the drivers install correctly regardless of
Do not pretend untruths. If the drivers are not made, then they
cannot be installed, and hence they cannot be loaded, and hence the
device cannot work, and hence the network cannot work.
> the error messages and attempt to get the network working.
>> Came down, put your head back on your shoulders, and post some data.
>> Use "script".
> All in all peter I would suggest you loose your master point of view, and
> return to a more beginner's perspective...If you know everything, there is
You said you are experiencd, now show it: post _data_. First take your chip
and your huff elsewhere, then the results will surprise you. With precise
reporting from you, I and others can help you. But if you insist on conducting
yourself like a weenie in a fuzz factory, you will get nowhere, except
into a bigger huff.
> nothing left to learn....Shame isn't it.
:-). Name one single thing I know for sure and I'll thank you for it!
Peter
> --
> Scot Mc Pherson
> http://www.behomet.net
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> W82 30' 39"
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Spain
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Knecht)
Subject: HP N5130 compaitibility?
Date: 4 Mar 2001 18:50:56 GMT
I need a little info please.
I have a refurbished HP N5130 notebook coming - 5G, 128M, 550.
It has MS ME installed. Can I repartition this and use a few G
for Linux without big problems? It's not essential but it would
be very convenient.
If you need any more info just ask.
I looked at http://lhd.datapower.com/ but didn't see the N5130.
Other HP N51XX units listed there were unrated. I looked at the
Redhat hardware compatibility site but nothing there. I tried
http://www.linuxhardware.net/ but I couldn't get it to show any
search results. Evidently it doesn't like my old Netscape
browser. Any other suggestions?
TIA
Ken
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From: "Cjv" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I know I'm boring. . . but
Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:46:56 -0800
I got a similar message, so I tried typing DOS at the prompt and it worked.
"Stevie T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Please see my previous post called:
>
> How do I get my hard disk to boot Win 2000 again? (03/03/01)
>
> I get this message when selecting 'windows' from Grub.
>
> Booting `windows`
>
> root (hd1,0)
> Filesystem type is fat, partition type 0xb
> map (0x81) (0x80)
> map (0x80) (0x81)
> makeactive
> chainloader +1
>
> NTLDR is missing
> Press any key to restart
>
> Any help would be appreciated!
>
> Steve
>
>
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From: "campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: cdrecord -scanbus
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 04:20:52 -0600
Hello:
I am trying to setup CD-burning on my system, using cdrecord and the
gnome front-end 'gtoaster'. Both programs seem to fail on the cdrecord
command. When I do 'cdrecord -scanbus', I get the following error msg:
cdrecord: Warning: controller returns wrong size for CD capabilities page.
cdrecord: Warning: controller returns wrong page 20 for CD capabilities page (2A).
Can this be the source of my problems. My cd devices are a) a Teac SCSI
cdrom and b) a Yamaha SCSI cdr. I have had no problems with them
individually, but am having a very hard time getting up and running w/ cd
burning.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
TIA
campbell
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From: Erik Max Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Please HELP: Netgear FA311 troubles
Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 11:22:14 -0800
"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
> It is not beta, it is simply wrong. It was a development snapshot
> adopted by redhat as part of a marketting ploy, never mind little
> technical matters like it being binary incompatible with everything.
Was it in fact a marketing ploy? How so? I'd never heard a coherent
explanation of what they were thinking by doing that. (Maybe there's a
good reason for that ...)
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Subject: Re: Netscape6 crashes like crazy under RH7
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brad Sims)
Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 19:44:47 GMT
Try Kmail for email and Konqueror for your browser.
It runs under KDE ver. 2.~
--
I sense much distrust in you. Distrust leads to cynicism,
cynicism leads to bitterness, bitterness leads to the
Awareness Of True Reality which is referred to by
those-who-lack-enlightenment as "paranoia". I approve.
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From: Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: How-to- Linux on Unix??
Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 14:49:23 -0500
Raymond Russell wrote:
> > The software for UNIX like Solaris and AIX will not run on Intel
> > (hardware) systems.
There is indeed a version of Solaris for Intel platforms; we're using
it daily at work.
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From: Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape6 crashes like crazy under RH7
Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 14:52:07 -0500
Paul Folbrecht wrote:
> Mozilla is just a browser, correct? I'm mainly looking for an email
> reader. What else is worth checking out? Eudora maybe?
How about kmail?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DVHandorf)
Date: 04 Mar 2001 20:15:04 GMT
Subject: Re: Triple Booting?
I can see only one problem: the partition layout. If you are going to boot
linux, the entire kernrl must be below the 1024th cylinder, otherwise some
BIOSes may not recognize it. My suggestion:
|--/boot--|---------Whatever else-----|--Linux--|.
^
cyl. 1024
I had one big partition the first time I tried it, and I recompiled the
kernel. When it came time to boot, the new kernel fell over and died. That
was because it lay beyond cyl 1024. I had to ditch the current layout ans
switch over to something like the one I illustrated above. I would do this
just to be safe. Some BIOSes can recognize files beyond cyl. 1024, however I
would rather be safe than sorry.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DVHandorf)
Date: 04 Mar 2001 20:23:52 GMT
Subject: Re: Do daemons corrupt system security?
On my redhat system, there is a utility called linuxconf that allows you to
perform many administrative chores. Obviously, it needs to be run as root. If
you don't have linuxconf, then the command useradd will create a new user
account. To get to the online manual page, type man 1 useradd. Manual pages
tend to be helpful.
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HP N5130 compaitibility?
Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 20:25:25 GMT
I recommend installing the lastest linux of your choice and come back to
the news group if you have troubles.
The problems I have seen are to get the X on the laptop working which is
solvable or the winmodem working
which maybe solvable if it is using lucent or PCtel modem chipset.
Ken Knecht wrote:
> I need a little info please.
>
> I have a refurbished HP N5130 notebook coming - 5G, 128M, 550.
> It has MS ME installed. Can I repartition this and use a few G
> for Linux without big problems? It's not essential but it would
> be very convenient.
>
> If you need any more info just ask.
>
> I looked at http://lhd.datapower.com/ but didn't see the N5130.
> Other HP N51XX units listed there were unrated. I looked at the
> Redhat hardware compatibility site but nothing there. I tried
> http://www.linuxhardware.net/ but I couldn't get it to show any
> search results. Evidently it doesn't like my old Netscape
> browser. Any other suggestions?
>
> TIA
>
> Ken
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From: "Tim Cuthbertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installation Problem
Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 14:46:44 -0600
I can't help you with your problem, but I finally got Suse 7.0 installed on
my machine - it took about a week.
I finally got it to configure my SCSI adapter properly after adding
parameters from three separate Suse knowledge database articles. Then, even
when I had all the parameters entered correctly, it still would not run
because some sort of a parsing error, which I discovered in yet another Suse
KB article.
And now that it is supposedly installed and configured, lilo doesn't work,
either. I can't boot to Linux or Windows. I had to boot to the Suse CD,
enter 'manual' at the lilo prompt, provide all the scsi parameters, again,
and start Linux from the installer. Finally, I could su to root and
uninstall lilo, allowing me to reboot my machine to Windows.
What a pain. Good luck with yours.
Tim
"FrOgGy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I just dled the personal of SUSE 7.0 ISo's and they go on 4 CD's.... I
> use a bootdisk to run install. I have an 800mhz AMD, with 256megs of ram,
> and when i try to install.... when i put in the first CD, it starts
> loading.... puts all the info into the Ramdisk.... then the scrolling
block
> goes to the next line and just blinks.... I pressed after a while Alt+F4
and
> it started Scrolling (Kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprob -s -k
binfmt -464,
> noerror=8)
> i was wondering if anyone knew why Suse won't install into my computer....
> and it was off a mirror of SUSE.com.. thx if you would help me..
> I've got an Asus7 motherboard,a USB logitech mouse, and as you saw enough
ram
> for it to load into ram... i used YAst2 for the install.. and the other
one i
> not sure what the name of it was.... so thx if you could help :)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.suse
Subject: Re: Do daemons corrupt system security?
Date: 4 Mar 2001 20:55:26 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Erik Leunissen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
All daemons are a potential security hole. As such not running them as
root makes it just a bit harder for a cracker to use a daemon break to
break your whole system. However some daemons must run as root to be
useful.
Most systems start up daemons on bootup when the system init files are
running as root. Unless the startup script takes special pains to start
the daemon as non-root it will start as root.
]I've got some software (which manages licenses for licensed software),
]which consist of two daemons. The documentation of this software
]repeatedly an strongly disencourages to run these daemons as user root
]because - in general - doing so, constitutes a system security risk.
This probably also means that they are not very confident of thier
coding skills .
]Anyway, I've got a very hard time trying to make the information
]correspond.
]Shouldn't I take the licensing software seriously, or should I adjust
]the initialization scripts of all daemon processes that came with the
]SuSE installation, with respect to the users they are run as?
Well, teh second is always a good idea,, but as I said some must run as
root. (eg sshd).
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Please HELP: Netgear FA311 troubles
Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:48:15 +0100
In comp.os.linux.help Erik Max Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>> It is not beta, it is simply wrong. It was a development snapshot
>> adopted by redhat as part of a marketting ploy, never mind little
>> technical matters like it being binary incompatible with everything.
> Was it in fact a marketing ploy? How so? I'd never heard a coherent
> explanation of what they were thinking by doing that. (Maybe there's a
And you won't get one.
> good reason for that ...)
MY best guess (note the "my") is that they wanted a selling point as
silly and inconsequential as madrakes "compiled for pentium" (as if
anyone has a pentium, and not an i686 or better ..).
If they noticed the binary incompatibility problem, I guess it counted
as a good point, because it might lock their users into RH. It would be
other distros that picked up flak for their binaries failing on RH. It
could also stop anyone else doing a mandrake and copying their distro
while adding their own touches on top.
</conspiracy theory>
Peter
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