Linux-Setup Digest #753, Volume #20               Mon, 5 Mar 01 00:13:09 EST

Contents:
  How to reinstall LILO? (MikeS)
  Re: How to reinstall LILO? (Bit Twister)
  Re: Modem problems (David Efflandt)
  Which Linux for a 486/4MB (Mitch Crane)
  Re: Something to chew on.. (Tony Sweeney)
  Re: no sound ("Javier")
  Re: Thirteen Months - Linux still not working (David Efflandt)
  Microsoft Serial Mouse & Lunix (Jon Wilcox)
  Re: Modem problems (Matthew Borkowski)
  Odd harddrive problems (Matthew Borkowski)
  wu-ftpd setup problem (john slimick)
  Re: Thirteen Months - Linux still not working (James Rose)
  SuSE 7.1 kernel compile docs incomplete? (David Efflandt)
  Re: Thirteen Months - Linux still not working (Bill Unruh)
  installing java jdk 1.3 ("Andrew Cartine")
  Re: Modem problems ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Thirteen Months - Linux still not working (Bill Unruh)
  Upgrade from suse 7.0 to 7.1 (Vinay Avasthi)
  Alternative to sendmail (Jim T)
  newbie questions ("Alex Zaslavsky")
  External Access to QPopper ("Greg Hains")
  Re: Alternative to sendmail (H.Bruijn)
  Re: Test if mount was a sucess from shell script? (Faux_Pseudo)
  multiboot help ("Alex Zaslavsky")

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From: MikeS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to reinstall LILO?
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 01:30:04 -0000

I have two hard drives set up in a Lilo duel boot, C (hda) drive running 
Windows ME and D drive (hdb) running Linux 6.2. Norton Antivirus 
found a change to my boot record and restored the old record, thus 
erasing LILO. At boot I get a LIL boot and can't boot into either 
system. I don't have a copy of the old boot record and my Linux 
startup disk is not working. How can I reconfigure the LILO boot 
without destroying my windows drive?  

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bit Twister)
Subject: Re: How to reinstall LILO?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 01:49:35 GMT

What distribution is Linux 6.2
If you have Redhat of Mandrake you can use the cd
in the expert mode and enter rescue.

You might be able to use the boot disk from 
http://www.toms.net/rb/home.html


On Mon, 05 Mar 2001 01:30:04 -0000, MikeS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have two hard drives set up in a Lilo duel boot, C (hda) drive running 
>Windows ME and D drive (hdb) running Linux 6.2. Norton Antivirus 
>found a change to my boot record and restored the old record, thus 
>erasing LILO. At boot I get a LIL boot and can't boot into either 
>system. I don't have a copy of the old boot record and my Linux 
>startup disk is not working. How can I reconfigure the LILO boot 
>without destroying my windows drive?  

-- 
The warranty and liability expired as you read this message.
If the above breaks your system, it's yours and you keep both pieces.
Practice safe computing. Backup the file before you change it. 
Do a,  man command_here or cat command_here, before using it.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Modem problems
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 02:12:10 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sun, 04 Mar 2001, Matthew Borkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm using BestLinux running KDE and when I try to use my modem, I get
>the error "Sorry, modem busy". The documention says that the most likely
>cause is that I own a Winmodem, but I'm fairly sure I do not. Is there
>anyway to find out if my modem is or isn't a Winmodem. If the latter is
>true, then what is the cause of the error message?

It might help to mention what brand and model it is in case somebody
knows.  Is it internal or external, ISA or PCI?  If it is ISA is it PnP or
hard jumpered for port and IRQ?  If you still have Windows, how does
Windows identify it, and what details does it give in Control Panel,
System, Devices?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mitch Crane)
Subject: Which Linux for a 486/4MB
Date: 5 Mar 2001 02:14:26 GMT

I've got an old 386-40 a friend bought for $5 and gave to me. I'd like to 
install Linux on it, but I don't know which distribution to get. This 
machine has no CD-ROM drive, but I do have an ISA Ethernet card I can throw 
in there if I can do some sort of FTP install.

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From: Tony Sweeney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.security,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.misc,linux.debian.publicity,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Something to chew on..
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 02:16:19 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Drew Roedersheimer wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 02 Mar 2001 12:50:25 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >Masha Ku'Inanna wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > >type1inst from my Slackware box to the Mandrake box using ftp. Type1inst
> > >is just a simple perl script. I chmoded the type1inst file to executable
> > >and Mandrake will not let me execute it! Tried retransfering the file
> > >making sure that I used binary mode, still no dice. This is the first
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > Wouldn't you want ascii mode if it's just a perl script??
> >
> > -DR
> >
> > --
> > Build a system that even a fool can use and only a fool will want to use it.
> 
> If you look it says I tried to retransfer it in binary. So, I transfered
> it both ways, the reason to transfer as binary is that it wont work.

You'll get the exact same file on a linux-linux transfer anyway, since
the end of line convention is the same.  My best guess is that the perl
binary is in different places, so the #!interpreter line is pointing at
fresh air.  Check that, and post the actual error message you are
getting.

TOny.

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From: "Javier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: no sound
Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:12:23 -0500

Finally, I got it to work.

I had go to the root directory and type "/usr/sbin/sndconfig".  The sound
configuration would not come up if I only typed in "sndconfig".

Thanks for the help.

"Rasmus B�g Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
k...
> On Sat, 3 Mar 2001, Javier wrote:
>
> > I recently installed Red Hat 7, but I am not getting any sound?  I
checked
> > all the sound options in the control panel and everything is okay.  I'm
> > currently running GNOME.  Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Is the sound card on mute? Have you turned up the relevant volumes
> (master+PCM i guess)?
>
> Is your sound card configured and do the modules load (/sbin/lsmod)? If
> not, run 'sndconfig'.
>
> Rasmus
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Thirteen Months - Linux still not working
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 02:24:06 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sun, 04 Mar 2001 21:42:19 GMT, HateLinux <I_like_2B@home> wrote:
>       Thirteen months ago I tried to set up a linux box...

>Every one worked with some of my hardware, but none with all.
>       I have now installed redhat 7.00
>
>What works:
>mouse          (microsoft serial)
>hard disk      (quantum 10Gb)
>soundblaster 64
>printer                (Epson dot matrix)
>
>does NOT work
>video card (voodoo3dfx w/16Mb mem)

What brand and model?  I am sure there must be something that supports it,
because my Monster 3D (voodoo1 8 MB) add on card has worked for
years.  Although, my regular video is ancient S3 Trio64.

>modem (USR 2977 PCI NOT winmodem (dials, negotiates, sets up ppp but
>no internet connection)

Probably something simple that could be determined from /var/log/messages.  
If you gets as far as you say it does.  If it says the peer is not
authorized to use that IP you just need 'noauth' (without quotes) in
/etc/ppp/options.

Otherwise you either have a routing problem (do you have a LAN?) or forgot
to put nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf (see 'man resolver').
        
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From: Jon Wilcox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Microsoft Serial Mouse & Lunix
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 02:30:06 -0000

I have loaded Corel Lunix 2nd edtion on my computer,but the mouse doesn't 
work when running Lunix. The OS works fine. I have been to there web site 
and they have Question in the FAQ about this but it does not fix my 
problem. If anyone else has had this problem I could use some help with 
it. 

Computer: AMD K6-2-500
Microsoft Serial Mouse on COM1

Thanks Jon

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Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 21:33:27 -0500
From: Matthew Borkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Modem problems

Sadly, I no longer have Windows installed, so I cannot get most of the
information you mentioned. The system was bought as a department store
clearence price and I have no documentation on the modem. All I know is
that it is an internal modem and I believe it is made by Aztech, but I
cannot be sure.

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Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 22:04:09 -0500
From: Matthew Borkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Odd harddrive problems

I install BestLinux on a hard drive with one partition of about 4 and a
half GB. However, when I ran KDE (that was install with BestLinux) it
ran very slowly and was similar to what Windows did when out of space or
memory. So I checked system information. I'm not sure if this is normal
or not, but system info showed that there were two partition (I guess
they were) were mounted to / and /home. The sizes were 2393 mb and 2293
mb respectively. The thing that confused me is that it showed that the
first was 87% full and the second was 94%. I did do full install on
BestLinux, but the install was 1.4 GB (estimated) and, as I said before,
my harddrive was over 4 and a half GB. Also, it said each filesystem was
of type ext2 (not sure if that matters or not). Can anyone help?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (john slimick)
Subject: wu-ftpd setup problem
Date: 5 Mar 2001 03:06:59 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have two linux machines, both running
RH 6.0. One is running wu-ftpd like a champ,
but the other responds to every ftp connection request
by first asking for: 

     User (default): zifl (valid username)
<message from ftpd>
     password: -here I type a valid password--

then I get the message:

     password incorrect

and I am dismissed.

How can I make wu-ftpd aware of me and other users?

Thanks in advance

john slimick
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Rose)
Subject: Re: Thirteen Months - Linux still not working
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 03:01:25 GMT

So now that you have been flamed for your question,

What is the state of your system now?  If you have certian stuff working, no one
want's to know about it yet.  Tell us what you have problems with and specify
everything that goes along with it.

So,  what's broken?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: SuSE 7.1 kernel compile docs incomplete?
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 03:10:31 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I picked up SuSE 7.1 since it was on sale for $20 at Best Buy and I wanted
to see what additional support kernel 2.4 had for my laptop (ACPI, DVD,
USB, IEEE 1394, etc.).  The installation was very easy, but compiling a
new kernel was not.

Instead of using pcmcia and sound included with kernel 2.4, SuSE
apparently uses the earlier pcmcia-cs-3.1.22 and separate alsa sound
modules (probably to maintain compatiblility with the other 2.2.18
kernel).  But the pcmcia-cs-3.1.22 and alsa sources are not included with
kernel 2.4 sources (nowhere on the system, but are on the CD).  The sound
I could easily fix by altering /etc/modules.conf to use oss instead of
alsa modules.  But I could not even boot the new kernel because it hung
trying to load pcmcia (strangely with no word about the boot in
/var/log/messages).

I did make sure that lilo was set up to be able to boot to the original
kernel and that still works.

The SuSE manual makes it look as easy to compile a new kernel as it was
for me to install a generic 2.2.17 kernel from source into Mandrake 7.0.  
But they need a further explaination of how to assemble it with pcmcia and
sound drivers that are different from what the kernel includes.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: Thirteen Months - Linux still not working
Date: 5 Mar 2001 03:16:12 GMT

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I_like_2B@home (HateLinux) writes:

]       Thirteen months ago I tried to set up a linux box, just
]something really simple, one of the most -sold monitors, one of the
]most-sold video cards, one of the most-sold sound cards, idem for
]modem, mouse, and cdrom, a keyboard that supports deadkeys. Hundreds
]of hours of reading through cryptic man pages, recompiling my kernel,
]downloading updates and patches, and I STILL HAVE NOT GOT A WORKING
]SYSTEM!!
]       Someone even offered help, I sent him my system files, and (I
]suppose it was him) hacked into my computer, destroying a load of
]files in my microsoft partitions. I have never been hacked in 5 years
]under windows, it was quite a traumatic experience. But I have a
]simple backup program under windows, so nothing was lost.
]       I have installed slackware 7.0, 3.2, 4.0
]                       redhat 4.1, 5.2, 6.2, 7.0
]                       mandrake 7.00,  7.02
]                       suse 6.3
]                       peanut linux
]                       corel 1 and 1.1
]Every one worked with some of my hardware, but none with all.
]       I have now installed redhat 7.00

]What works:
]mouse          (microsoft serial)
]hard disk      (quantum 10Gb)
]soundblaster 64
]printer                (Epson dot matrix)

]does NOT work
]video card (voodoo3dfx w/16Mb mem)
]modem (USR 2977 PCI NOT winmodem (dials, negotiates, sets up ppp but
]no internet connection)
]       
]       Frankly , although I have a reasonably inquisitive mind, I'm
]tired of reading man pages, HOWTOS, and trying things that do not
]work.
]       So is anyone here willing to help me set up my box ? I'm just
]asking for something that win98 did in 20 minutes flat ... set up my
]OS and recognize my hardware. If anyone here thinks an OS that cannot
]do this is going to be anything more than a passing trend needs his
]head examined

]Obs ... maybe I'll even post under linux and change my name if it
]works ;)

Thirteen months and 10 editions sounds a wee bit extreme. This should
not be necessary, and I have no idea what it was that you did.

Anyway for the pppd problem it has nothing to do with Linux, but rather
with your ISP. But hope is not lost.
See
www.theory.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html
for step by step instructions.

The video card is something controlled by XFree. 
Look at

http://www.xfree.org/4.0.2/Status2.html#2
for the writeup on the 3dfx-- supported both in 3.3.6 and 4.0




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Reply-To: "Andrew Cartine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Andrew Cartine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: installing java jdk 1.3
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 03:16:58 GMT

I am a linux newbie with a strange problem, trying to install and run the
latest java runtime.

I have Redhat 7.0 installed on this box.  When I downloaded the new jdk from
sun, the file did not end with the extension ".rpm".  It was named something
like "j2jdk1.3-rpm.bin".

Being a newbie, I was puzzled, and couldn't figure out how to update the
package with RPM.  So I typed "install j2jdk1.3-rpm.bin /usr/lib/java".

This apparently unpacked the file "j2jdk1.3.bin.rpm" in my /usr directory.
I used RPM to do the update/install and it seemed to update and install the
package.

Here's the problem:  Now, whenever I try to run the java runtime with "java"
(as any user from any directory), it tries to reinstall the RPM!!!  I know
theres an explanation for this somewhere...

Andrew




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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Modem problems
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 03:53:47 +0100

Matthew Borkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sadly, I no longer have Windows installed, so I cannot get most of the
> information you mentioned. The system was bought as a department store
> clearence price and I have no documentation on the modem. All I know is
> that it is an internal modem and I believe it is made by Aztech, but I
> cannot be sure.

You can be absolutely sure. Look at it. Look at /proc/pci. Look at the
output from pnpdump.

Peter

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: Thirteen Months - Linux still not working
Date: 5 Mar 2001 03:18:41 GMT

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> modem (USR 2977 PCI NOT winmodem (dials, negotiates, sets up ppp but

>Impossible - PCI means winmodem and if not, it's a chance in a million,
>and you'd have to know about configuring it, which you don't. So 
>don't ....

No. There do exist PCI cards which are real modems. Winmodems almost
certainly need to be PCI but PCI can be a real modem. (ISA slots are
becoming hard to find in modern computers.)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vinay Avasthi)
Subject: Upgrade from suse 7.0 to 7.1
Date: 5 Mar 2001 04:01:31 GMT


What is the simplest way to upgrade from suse 7.0 to 7.1. Is there some
web download available.

VA

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From: Jim T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Alternative to sendmail
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 04:19:40 GMT

Is there an alternative to sendmail?  I know this isn't a windows ng,
but is there an equivalent to sendmail for windows systems?

Thanks


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From: "Alex Zaslavsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux
Subject: newbie questions
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 04:40:51 GMT

Hey All

I have a few problems.

1. When trying to install red hat 7.0 on my computer I get the following
problems,

a) when booting from the cd-rom it shows that it is capable of seeing the
fdd, it hangs for a second then boots the hdd. The Bios is set to boot off
cdrom (the cd rom is a Sony 928e CD WRITER)

b) when booting from dos and using autorun I get a read error from the linux
cd (tried the cd on another system worked without any problems).

2. When Installing mandrake 7.2 it will not mount the cd rom when running
install or when using linux.




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Reply-To: "Greg Hains" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Greg Hains" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: External Access to QPopper
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:12:55 +0930

Hi,

I have several mailboxes setup on my Linux box that I am trying to access
externall (outside the LAN), but am refused access - I dont have error codes
handy here sorry. They work from within the LAN OK, but outside they do not.
I know the accounts and passwords are fine.

Is this a default setting of QPopper?  What sort of things can I look for?
How do I even configure Qpopper?

Any help out there?...

Greg



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.Bruijn)
Subject: Re: Alternative to sendmail
Date: 5 Mar 2001 04:49:50 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 05 Mar 2001 04:19:40 GMT, Jim T allegedly wrote:
>Is there an alternative to sendmail? 

Postfix, qmail, exim to name a few. use a decent search engine to find
them. Some are likely to even run on inferior operating systems.

> I know this isn't a windows ng,
> but is there an equivalent to sendmail for windows systems?


Loads, even free (as in free beer, not likely as in free speech) ones.
Even sendmail may have been ported to windows, but since that is quite a
beast, you most likely want something else.

AFAIK none run on windows 3.1 Other flavours are abundant. Most are not
nearly as stable as their *nix competitors. The microsoft thing is
exchange, which is apparently a horrible way to die, and you have to pay a
per user license, which for larger corperations goes through the roof.

Try fi for win 2k: http://www.tucows.com/win2k/mailserver2k.html for
free downloads (use a mirror near you.). Other flavours as well.

-- 
If a trainstation is the place where trains stop, what is a workstation?
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Herman Bruijn                            mail:          [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Netherlands                       website:   http://hermanbruijn.com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Faux_Pseudo)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Test if mount was a sucess from shell script?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 04:48:30 GMT

--(Once apon a time, in comp.os.linux.setup,)--
                --(Lee Webb said it like only they can.)--
>
>#!/bin/sh
>mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c > /dev/null 2>&1
>if [ $? -eq 0 ]; then
>    echo "Fine"
>else
>    echo "Something went wrong"
>fi
>
That is fare more than is needed.

mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c || echo "Something went wrong"

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GUI's are for slackers.  ibpconf.sh 6.1 on freshmeat.net  
The easiest way to customize the command line.  By Faux_Pseudo

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From: "Alex Zaslavsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
aus.computers.linux,comp.os.ms-windows.nt,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.misc,microsoft.public.windowsnt,microsoft.public.windowsnt.setup
Subject: multiboot help
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 05:06:23 GMT

For college I have been given a simple assignment to set up a multi boot
system running. MS-dos 6.22, windows 98, windows NT server 4.0 and any
version of linux (i have redhat 5.2 , 7.0 and mandrake 7.2).

I have tried several attempts at getting the boot to work, so far I have had
little luck as red hat 7.0 and mandrake 7.2 will not install on my computer.

When installing Red hat 5.2 as the last OS my computer fails to boot NT and
gives a error NTKRNL.EXE missing or corrupted. and when installing NT last
it can not overcome the lilo boot from the MBR.

when I partition my HDD
HDA1 is dos partition
HDA2 is linux root
HDA3 is linux swap
HDA5 is NTFS

i have also found some instructions on the internet and have found that they
do not work with Red hat 7.0.  The instructions are;

Partition the HDD correctly. Install dos, win9x, nt. once nt is successfully
installed, install linux and make a linux boot disk.

boot linux and mount a floppy. Assume /mnt/floppy is mount point.

using dd if=/dev/had2 of=/mnt/floppy/bootsect.lnx bs=512 count=1

(if is the actual device name for the root file system)

shutdown linux and boot dos/nt

copy bootsect.lnx to c:

edit c:\boot.ini ( in section OPERATING SYSTEMS add line
C:\BOOTSECT.LNX="LINUX") this position of this line, relative to the others
in this section, determines the position on the boot menu.

Save file and exit, restart and now your computer should have linux in boot
menu.

Thanks in Advance


Alex Zaslavsky



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