Linux-Setup Digest #788, Volume #20 Fri, 9 Mar 01 03:13:08 EST
Contents:
Re: (Newbie) Storm Network Setup (Learned)
net-pf-10 module (???!!) (j.taimr)
Re: How to copy existing linux installation to another hdd? (keith)
GOOD Linux email client (Paul Folbrecht)
Re: First time Linux user (Stanislaw Flatto)
Re: Defrag problems with repartioning FAT32 drive for linux ("Abhishek Roy")
Re: Split incoming emails to the correct users? (Peter Nunn)
best rh 6.0 -> 7.0 ? (Avery Andrews)
Re: No sound when not root ??? (chris)
Re: howto enlarge linux partition ("Johnny Li(Li Guang-lei 1575623)")
Re: (Newbie) Storm Network Setup (Learned)
Re: impossible to compile new kernel ("Stephan M. Ott")
Re: First time Linux user ("Todd Osborne")
LILl02ll02ll02ll02ll02ll02ll02ll02ll02ll02ll02ll02l ("Pavan")
Re: net-pf-10 module (???!!) (Paul Kimoto)
Linux on HP hardware. (Neil Zanella)
Re: best rh 6.0 -> 7.0 ? (Karthik)
Re: Booting Raid 1 or 5 ("Andreas Schweigstill")
Success : Getting Avance Logic ALS4000 soundcard to work with Linux (Mohammed Hamed)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Learned <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: (Newbie) Storm Network Setup
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 21:18:11 -0600
Here is some more information I've gleaned out...when booting, when
the card is detected, it indicates it is using IRQ 0, with a follow-on
message that that probably will not work. Any insight on changing the
IRQ for a 3c905B?
On Thu, 08 Mar 2001 11:49:45 -0600, Learned <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>I'm trying to figure out how to get networking up and running
>(surprise) on a new installation of Storm. I'm using a 3COM 3C905B
>which is showing up in /proc/pci.
>
>I've tried manual setup of the network config during install, and the
>network is unreachable.
>
>I've tried DHCP setup after, but I can't get the DHCP client to come
>up.
>
>I've tried manual setup after install, and the system hangs right
>after entering my IP information to the Network Admin tool. Any
>suggestions where I can start looking?
------------------------------
From: j.taimr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: net-pf-10 module (???!!)
Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 21:00:15 GMT
Hi,
I've upgraded kernel to 2.4.1 and (with the same modules.conf, only adapted
for new ppp) strange message 'modprobe: net-pf-10 module not found' is
present in my system logs periodically. Everything is working properly, but
this message is a little bit annoying, esp. because I cannot find, what
this module is.
So my question - which module is 'net-pf-10' ? I did not find mentioned
this anywhere in documentation :-(((.
Thanx in advance....., maybe I am not only one who has this problem....
--
Jan Taimr
=======================================
The worst computer virus is an end-user
=======================================
------------------------------
From: keith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: How to copy existing linux installation to another hdd?
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 03:51:16 GMT
Suggest additional options for the command below;
mkdir destination
cd source
find . -mount -depth -print | cpio -pdlm destination
-depth needed so that time stamp on directories is same as source.
-l needed so that links are maintained on destination.
This is the historic method. Of course you can now use;
cp -a source destination
But I still think using GNU parted is easiest and fastest if you
want to copy the entire partition (my privies post). For
example.
parted
cp /dev/hda 1 2
Keith
Chat Everett wrote:
>
> I have always been real happy with cpio. It preserves all times, modes,
> owwnerships, etc.
>
> While in root of source partition:
>
> find . -mount -print | cpio -pdm dest_partition_root_pathname
>
> to copy the entire filesystem from source to dest
>
> I have copied entire multipartitioned linux installs this way.
>
> Don't forget to run lilo to install boot code on the new drive. You'll need to
> edit /etc/fstab too.
>
> Chad
> --
>
> On Fri, 2 Mar 2001 17:53:17 +0100, Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >In comp.os.linux.help Dmitri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I have a linux system with large amount of soft installed and large
> >> amount of users in passwd. Is it a way to copy this system fully to
> >> another hdd with the different size without any changes?
> >
> >yes. Man cp (or scp, or tar ...).
> >
> >> Thanks for any help,
> >
> >Read the various HOWTOs if you truly do not know how to use tar!
> >I believe the Partitioning-HOWTO tells you how to use it, but
> >perhaps my memory fails me in this matter. In any case, a moments work
> >with grep in the HOWTOs directory shoudl set you to rights.
> >
> >Peter
------------------------------
From: Paul Folbrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: GOOD Linux email client
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 03:58:29 GMT
I'm not crazy about either Netscape or Mozilla. What else is there? I
sure wish Eudora had a Linux version.
------------------------------
From: Stanislaw Flatto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: First time Linux user
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 15:24:34 +1100
MeJustLookin' wrote:
> Ok,thanks Darin I;ll get one of them soon....
>
> Getting kinda tired of Windows crashing so often.
>
> Which one would be best for a beginner?
>
Depends how long you want to be a beginner.
Some distros are pleasure to install, but any hickup and you are stranded.
Others have a learning curve, not easy at beginning, but getting easier
after short time.
And then you can go on the market and choose any of them feeling sure that
you can manage it.
So it's your decision which direction of the fork you take.
Stanislaw.
Slack user from Ulldulla.
------------------------------
From: "Abhishek Roy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Defrag problems with repartioning FAT32 drive for linux
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 20:23:04 -0800
> You have to defrag that FS first.
> Of that I know too little, ask a windows NG.
> Then you can use any of the partition splitting tools you mentioned.
>
> There is an alternative, use PowerQuests PartitionMagic.
> No need to defrag, run it and resize on the fly.
> There's one catch though, it's not a free tool.
What do you mean by "defragging the FS" ? PartitionMagic is my last option,
not just the $40 or so, I just figure with so many people dual-booting there
has to be a way to it.
Abhishek
------------------------------
From: Peter Nunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Split incoming emails to the correct users?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 15:26:38 +1100
Hi Duane,
I tried adding ! gnunn as you suggested but now I don't get the email
anywhere (it just vanishes).
The procmail log says
procmail: Match on
"(^((Original-)?(Resent-)?(To|Cc|Bcc)|(X-Envelope|Apparently(-Resent)?)-To):(.*[^-a-zA-Z0-9_.])?)[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
procmail: Couldn't determine implicit lockfile from
"/usr/sbin/sendmail"
procmail: Locking ".lock"
procmail: Executing "/usr/sbin/sendmail"
procmail: [8150] Fri Mar 9 15:25:19 2001
procmail: Assigning "LASTFOLDER=/usr/sbin/sendmail"
procmail: Unlocking ".lock"
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Mar 9 15:25:18 2001
Subject: Testing today to Gnunn
Folder: /usr/sbin/sendmail
1655
procmail: Notified comsat: "pnunn@:/usr/sbin/sendmail"
any more clues??
Ta
Peter
"Duane Healing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>If you have your machine set up to do valid local mail delivery, you
>could try changing your recipe to read something along the lines of:
>:0:
>* ^[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>! gnunn
>
>Then sendmail will do the actual mail delivery job and permissions won't
>be an issue.
>
>If sendmail is configured to handle local mail delivery, that should
>work.
Peter Nunn
DownUnder
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 15:32:43 +1100
From: Avery Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: best rh 6.0 -> 7.0 ?
What would be the best way to upgrade a Red Had 6.0 installation to 7.0?
An upgrade installation? I've heard that there are sometimes problems
with these (5->6 for example); does 6->7 work well?
Avery Andrews
------------------------------
From: chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: No sound when not root ???
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 05:41:04 +0100
Laurent Cortier wrote:
>
> Hello :)
>
> I have a problem with my self-made linux "distribution". The sound is
> working perfectly when logged as root, under KDE 2.1 and Quake 3.
>
> But when I log as my normal user, the sound doesn't work at all and
> the KDE sound architecture crashes...
> I tried the following :
> create a group called audio
> assign my user to that group
> chgrp audio /dev/dsp*
> chgrp audio /dev/audio*
> chgrp audio /dev/mixer*
> chgrp audio /dev/midi*
> chgrp audio /dev/sndstat
>
> But it didn't help... Help :)
Maybe you forgot the 'rw' permission for your group.
--
==================== chris = maedle@t=online.de ===================
Quake has two basic goals. First, stay alive. Second, get out of
the place you're in.
------------------------------
From: "Johnny Li(Li Guang-lei 1575623)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: howto enlarge linux partition
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 13:37:40 +0800
A few days ago I also use Pqmagic4.0 to resize my partitions. I installed two
operation system two,one is win98 and the other is linux.But after using pqmagic
to enlarge my linux partition,I can't boot into linux.It seems that pqmagic
damage the linux partition.So I have to insert the RH CD and choose update to
reinstall my linux.Then my linux works,and all the settings and files are still
there.
My linux version is RH 6.2
So be careful with pqmagic.It's powerful,and dangerous too.
aa piet wrote:
>
> How can i enlarge /dev/hda2 on my dual boot system without having to
> reinstall linux?
> From /dev/hda5 i can delete half of it.
> thanks
> piet
>
> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
> /dev/hda1 * 1 65 522081 6 FAT16
> /dev/hda2 305 790 3903795 5 Extended
> /dev/hda3 168 295 1028160 83 Linux
> /dev/hda4 296 304 72292+ 82 Linux swap
> /dev/hda5 305 790 3903763+ b Win95 FAT32
>
> Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
> /dev/hda3 1011960 867396 93156 90% /
> /dev/hda1 521808 293648 228160 56% /mnt/win_c
> /dev/hda5 3896132 3558808 337324 91% /mnt/win_d
------------------------------
From: Learned <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: (Newbie) Storm Network Setup
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 00:00:49 -0600
For those following the continuing saga, the card itself did not need
to be reconfigured at all, however the computer had to have P-n-P shut
off on the BIOS. Just took awhile to find that option. After that,
Storm came up without a hitch. All in all, the easiest OS install I've
done in some time.
On Thu, 08 Mar 2001 21:18:11 -0600, Learned <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Here is some more information I've gleaned out...when booting, when
>the card is detected, it indicates it is using IRQ 0, with a follow-on
>message that that probably will not work. Any insight on changing the
>IRQ for a 3c905B?
>
>On Thu, 08 Mar 2001 11:49:45 -0600, Learned <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>
>>I'm trying to figure out how to get networking up and running
>>(surprise) on a new installation of Storm. I'm using a 3COM 3C905B
>>which is showing up in /proc/pci.
>>
>>I've tried manual setup of the network config during install, and the
>>network is unreachable.
>>
>>I've tried DHCP setup after, but I can't get the DHCP client to come
>>up.
>>
>>I've tried manual setup after install, and the system hangs right
>>after entering my IP information to the Network Admin tool. Any
>>suggestions where I can start looking?
------------------------------
From: "Stephan M. Ott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: impossible to compile new kernel
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 07:31:13 +0100
"H.Bruijn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >gcc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11
> >
> >and then the compilation stops.
>
> Often this is an indication of faulty memory. Have that checked out.
Okay, checked it out and learned that the RAM is okay (changed it to an
other RAM-module and stl get the same error)
Any more ideas ?
I'm out of wisdom ....
Thanks in advance.
--- Stephan
------------------------------
From: "Todd Osborne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: First time Linux user
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 06:43:39 GMT
You are correct. I was assuming his drive D was the slave on the primary IDE
controller. I think the point was made though. And yes, /dev/hdb identifies
a drive, not a partition. I should have been more awake :)
Todd
"Laurent Cortier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:_LUp6.3146$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > At any rate, I assume drive D is a physical hard drive, not a partition,
> > and I also assume that it is IDE. If this is true, allow Mandrake to do
a
> > default installation on /dev/hdb1. You see, the hd part identifies the
> > drive as IDE, b means the 2nd hard disk, and 1 means the first
partition.
> > Mandrake may suggest dividing the drive up into multiple partitions, and
> > this is fine. Just keep in mind that /dev/hdb is drive D in the Windows
> > world.
> Nice answer, but not completely exact though...
> /dev/hdb is normally the second drive on the first IDE interface. On my
> system, I have 2 HDs and 2 CDs, installed like this :
> IDE0 : HD1 + CD1
> IDE1 : CD2 + HD2
>
> Thus I have :
> HD1 = /dev/hda
> CD1 = /dev/hdb
> CD2 = /dev/hdc
> HD2 = /dev/hdd
>
> It may seem weird at first, but Windows still put the HDs in the normal
> order and the CDs after them. And linux is completely flexible so of
course
> he has no problem with it either. As one of the CD is in fact a Plextor
12X
> CDR, I can make CD to CD copies much more reliably coz each CD has it's
> own IDE interface -> more speed & stability.
>
> Another small thing : /dev/hdb can't be drive D: in windows world, because
> hdb is a hard disk, not a partition. /dev/hdb1 would be the D: drive (if
hdb
> is a hard disk).
>
> My .2 Euros,
>
> Laurent Cortier
> Consultant in a free world
> http://www.dsimprove.be
------------------------------
From: "Pavan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Subject: LILl02ll02ll02ll02ll02ll02ll02ll02ll02ll02ll02ll02l
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 12:22:07 +0530
You should have got it by now. This is what I get
when I install lilo on my /dev/hda6
partition(RH7). This partition is from cylinder
850 - 1250.
I know that this is outside the 1024 limit, but
isn't RH7's lilo supposed to support this?
lilo does not install with default lilo.conf(no
linear or lba32). It does not install with linear
either. It installs when I specify lba32 without
any errors or warnings.
Any Solution.
-Pavan
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: net-pf-10 module (???!!)
Date: 9 Mar 2001 01:54:19 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <zpSp6.164711$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, j.taimr wrote:
> I've upgraded kernel to 2.4.1 and (with the same modules.conf, only adapted
> for new ppp) strange message 'modprobe: net-pf-10 module not found' is
> present in my system logs periodically. Everything is working properly, but
> this message is a little bit annoying, esp. because I cannot find, what
> this module is.
> So my question - which module is 'net-pf-10' ?
It's ipv6. As usual, you can get rid of these messages by aliasing
net-pf-10 to "off".
--
Paul Kimoto
This message was originally posted on Usenet in plain text. Any images,
hyperlinks, or the like shown here have been added without my consent,
and may be a violation of international copyright law.
------------------------------
From: Neil Zanella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux on HP hardware.
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 02:42:24 -0330
Hello,
Is it possible to run Linux on HP/UX hardware?
Thanks,
Neil
------------------------------
From: Karthik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: best rh 6.0 -> 7.0 ?
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 09:07:58 +0200
Avery Andrews wrote:
>
> What would be the best way to upgrade a Red Had 6.0 installation to 7.0?
> An upgrade installation? I've heard that there are sometimes problems
> with these (5->6 for example); does 6->7 work well?
>
> Avery Andrews
Hi,
i had upgraded some months ago. It was hassel free. Atleast from 6.1 to
7.0
it was smooth.
Bye..
-- Karthik
--
==============================================================================
Save the Royal Bengal Tiger.... ELSE
dictionaries would be the best place to find them....
SAY 'NO' TO TIGER BASED PRODUCTS.......
==============================================================================
------------------------------
Crossposted-To: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.os.linux.hardware
From: "Andreas Schweigstill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Booting Raid 1 or 5
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 06:55:30 GMT
Hi Julius,
as mentioned in some other postings, it should be possible
to boot from RAID 1 or RAID 5 if one drive fails. But unfortunately
we had a RAID system from DEC which wouldn't start after
power-on when one defect drive was missing. It just said on it's
LCD that one disk drive was missing...
So you really should make a test with the RAID controller you
bought.
With best regards
Andreas Schweigstill
"julius" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:iDVm6.160$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Hi,
>
> On a system with hardware RAID level 5, booting Linux on RAID devices, if
> one drive fails, does the system boot, before replacing the drive? (not
> hotswap)
>
> And if instead of RAID level 5 we have a level 1 (mirroring)? Does the
> system boot if one drive fails, before replacing the drive?
>
>
> Does the rebuild, after replacing a drive, allows booting the system w/o
> problems? In both levels?
>
>
>
> Thank you for your time!
>
>
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mohammed Hamed)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.os.linux
Subject: Success : Getting Avance Logic ALS4000 soundcard to work with Linux
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 07:20:58 GMT
Hello,
I installed RH7 recently and noticed that sound wasn't working, my
soundcard is Avance Logic ALS4000.
As I know how hard it is to configure a soundcard on Linux especially
with soundcards that are not very well supported like mine, I started
searching the net and newsgroups for success stories with this
soundcard model, however I couldn't find any, only a bunch of ppl
claim that it works with the commercial version of OSS and a few that
said it's supported under the ALSA sound driver but they couldn't get
it to work. After a little bit of tweaking and reading the manuals I
could come up with this soundcard working, I could play wav, mp3,
au...etc files under both console and X (still have midi not working
however)
First I got the ALSA 5.10b driver which is the latest one and in the
docs that comes with it, it says the ALS4000 soundcard is supported. u
can get the ALSA drivers from http://www.alsa-project.org
I had no trouble compiling the drivers, libs, and utils aside from
some gcc warnings. then comes the hardest part of getting the
soundcard to work.
The device were created appropriately with the "snddevices" script
included with the driver but no sound was output,
note : I recompiled the kernel with sound support turned on, I have
kernel 2.4 but i think the same should work with 2.2...and as
suggested by the manual i removed every specific model support.
I didn't verify this however and i'm not sure wether it has any
effect, but it's safer to follow the master and do it.
after a little bit of tweaking and reading the docs and a few savings
and rebootings i had my /etc/modules.conf file containing those lines
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
# ALSA native device support
alias char-major-116 snd
options snd snd_major=116 snd_cards_limit=2
alias snd-card-0 snd-card-als4000
alias snd-card-1 snd-card-als4000
options snd-card-als4000 snd_index=0 snd_id="ALS4000"
# OSS/Free setup
alias char-major-14 soundcore
alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1
alias sound-service-1-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-1-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-1-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-1-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-1-12 snd-pcm-oss
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
those lines are almost identical to what's suggested by the INSTALL
file of the driver in the case of two soundcards support, it wasn't
clear why i would do this when I have only one soundcard, but i
wouldn't have come up with this solution until i compiled the driver
with ./configure --with-debug=full and started noticinig
/var/log/messages, when i saw some programs asking for OSS
sound-service-1-x and failed to open because of that...I don't know
why is that behaviour but it seems odd. so i added the lines of the
second soundcard, modifying snd_cards_limit to 2 in the snd options
and adding :
alias snd-card-1 snd-card-als4000
then for each alias entry for sound 0 i duplicated the entry by
another one for sound 1. This worked for me and I had no problems with
it sofar. The only problem i'm having now is that some programs asks
for strange service numbers that aren't mentioned in the docs like :
snd-service-1-6 and i don't have the slightest idea of which module is
associated with such..haven't done much testing as i'm happy xmms is
working well and i'm listening to my Mp3 collection very well.
The bottom line is :
-compile the kernel with only soundsupport and no card support
-compile the driver with full debug info u'll always need to know
what's going on.
-you have to enable the OSS support : some programs only speak OSS
-make two soundcard entries instead of one, it does no harm
-I suggest that u better recompile all ur sound programs using the new
soundcard.h
(perhaps the sound driver makers has better ideas or formulation of
the ideas i presented than this as i'm not very involved with
soundcards programming)
Thanx and Best Regards,
Mohammed Hamed
http://egyh.homestead.com
------------------------------
** FOR YOUR REFERENCE **
The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests
to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is:
Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You can send mail to the entire list by posting to comp.os.linux.setup.
Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites:
ftp.funet.fi pub/Linux
tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux
sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux
End of Linux-Setup Digest
******************************
