Linux-Setup Digest #808, Volume #20              Mon, 12 Mar 01 02:13:07 EST

Contents:
  file xfer stops, only on debian sites (Alex Graf)
  Re: Linux and Windows on same hardisk? (Rod Smith)
  Re: Networking options for RH 7.1 beta (Carlos Moreno)
  Re: Networking options for RH 7.1 beta (Dean Thompson)
  How to make a new bootdisk and a new rootdisk in redhat? (Tai-Lin Chin)
  Re: LILl02ll02ll02ll02ll02ll02ll02ll02ll02ll02ll02ll02l ("Pavan")
  Is it really worth it ? ("CD & WL")
  Re: Need help with LILO, I think. ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Is it really worth it ? ("cedric")
  Re: pcmcia setup (Miasmal)
  QRPFF Source Code (Steve Withers)
  Install Problem ("Jack Moore")
  What distribution should I use to make a compact Linux system < 170MB? ("Keith 
Twombley")
  Re: What distribution should I use to make a compact Linux system < 170MB? (Yves 
Bellefeuille)
  Re: What distribution should I use to make a compact Linux system < 170MB? 
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: How to make a new bootdisk and a new rootdisk in redhat? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Install new kernel (2.4.1) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: Alex Graf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: file xfer stops, only on debian sites
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:09:17 -0800


I use pppd to access the internet through a 115,200 bps null-modem
arragement, and it works fine: with one exception:

File downloads stop after about 38000 bytes, and never start again. 
Even stranger, this ONLY happens when downloading Debian packages from
Debian sites.  HTTP, FTP, using apt-get or manually with ftp, tried lots
of mirror sites, it doesn't matter.  I get about 38000 bytes, and that's
it.  Apt eventually complains about a socket timeout.

I thought it was serial port overruns, and took all the steps to prevent
that (pppd options, irqtune, hdparm, lower speed), but that doesn't make
much sense as downloads work fine on any other file from any other
site.  It's only the debian sites I can't download from -- Packages.gz,
.deb files, anything.  I'm stumped.  Any ideas?

I use the plain debian potato distribution

A


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Linux and Windows on same hardisk?
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 03:31:21 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Posted and mailed]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Deen) writes:
> I'd like to install Linux on a different partition on my harddisk, so
> I can still run Windows 98 SE, but also be able to fool around with
> Linux. Is this possible without messing up my system, and how do I get
> about 'seperating' the harddisk for this setup? Anyone with experience
> who can give me some advice? Thanks so much!

If you've already got Windows pre-installed in a typical one-partition
setup, you'll need to use the free FIPS (included with most Linux
distributions), the commercial PartitionMagic, or any of several
similar tools to re-size the Windows partition. You can then create one
or more partitions for Linux and install it. There are lots of other
little details that may pop up. Try reading some of the
installation-related documentation at http://www.linuxdoc.org. In
particular, there are some HOWTOs on Linux/Windows dual-boot systems. I
don't recall offhand if there's a LILO HOWTO, but if there is, it's
worth reading. There are also Linux installation instructions in many
introductory Linux books, and my _Multi-Boot Configuration Handbook_
(http://www.rodsbooks.com/multiboot/) has lots of information on many
specific multi-boot issues. If you need more specific guidance, you'll
need to post more details, like your current partitioning setup, your
hard disk size, what version of Linux you intend to use, etc.

-- 
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration

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From: Carlos Moreno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Networking options for RH 7.1 beta
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 22:41:24 -0500


Hi Dean!

Dean Thompson wrote:
> 
> Make sure that you have got both the "anonftp" package for anonymous ftp and a
> ftp server like "wuftpd".  Make sure that you don't have both the "proftpd"
> and "wuftpd" installed together as this sometimes causes a conflict as they
> fight for the port between themselves.

The command

rpm -a --query | grep ftp

reports  ncftp, ftp, anonftp, and wu-ftpd   (well, with the bunch of 
digits for the version numbers, of course...)

> > So, I added the following lines to /etc/rc.d/rc.local:
> >
> > echo 1 > /proc/....../ip_forward
> > ipchains ...
> > ipchains ...
> > ipchains ...
> >
> > Is it fundamentally wrong what I did?  (it's working,
> > but I'm wondering if there is a cleaner way;  I also
> > wonder if this is ok from the security point of view).
> 
> It looks okay, this is how it can be done.  Other ways including changing the
> IP_FORWARDING variable in the /etc/sysconfig/network's file 

I tried this and didn't work -- in fact, this is how I had done it 
in the past, with RH6.*, so I thought it was kind of *the* way of 
doing it.  With RH7.1 doesn't even seem to work  :-?

> I would say that you have most likely installed with a "workstation"
> configuration which either doesn't install all the servers or doesn't activate
> all the servers. 

Well, apparently they disable the servers by default -- I chose 
"Custom Installation", and installed a system without X-Window, and 
enabling web server, anonymous ftp server, and SQL server.  I thought 
they would be enabled at startup by default, which wasn't true for 
either one (I had to add the line httpd start on my rc.local file 
as well)

> Take a look in the directory /etc/xinetd.d and look for
> files called telnet and ftp.  Take a look inside these files and see whether
> or not they have the flag: "disable = yes" next to them.

BINGO!  This is what was causing the problem.  I removed the line 
disabled = yes from the ftp service file, and it works now.  With 
telnet, actually I did want to disable it (and never enable it!!!
RH7.* install SSH server by default, so who wants telnet!  :-))

> If there isn't a file you might like to confirm whether or not the server is
> installed: "rpm -qa | grep telnet" and see whether there is an entry for a
> server.

There is.  Should I remove it?  Or with the disabled = yes in the 
telnet config file should be enough?

> I hope this is of some help.

It was very helpful!  I greatly appreciate your taking the time to 
give me a hand with this!  I'll take a closer look at the IPCHAINS-
HOWTO, which I guess has the answers to many of my concerns...

Thanks a bunch!!

Carlos
--

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From: Dean Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Networking options for RH 7.1 beta
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:07:06 +1100


Hi Carlos,
> 
>>> So, I added the following lines to /etc/rc.d/rc.local:
>>>
>>> echo 1 > /proc/....../ip_forward
>>> ipchains ...
>>> ipchains ...
>>> ipchains ...
>>>
>>> Is it fundamentally wrong what I did?  (it's working,
>>> but I'm wondering if there is a cleaner way;  I also
>>> wonder if this is ok from the security point of view).
>>
>> It looks okay, this is how it can be done.  Other ways including changing 
>> the IP_FORWARDING variable in the /etc/sysconfig/network's file
> 
> I tried this and didn't work -- in fact, this is how I had done it
> in the past, with RH6.*, so I thought it was kind of *the* way of
> doing it.  With RH7.1 doesn't even seem to work  :-?

Yes, well I know that RH7.1 is going to be different when it is finally
released, but I would have hoped that they would still continue on with the
same sort of support for IP forwarding.  The other file which comes to memory
is the /etc/sysctl.conf file (although I must admit that I echo a 1 as well,
just to make sure that it is working).

>> If there isn't a file you might like to confirm whether or not the server 
>> is installed: "rpm -qa | grep telnet" and see whether there is an entry 
>> for a server.
> 
> There is.  Should I remove it?  Or with the disabled = yes in the
> telnet config file should be enough?

It should be okay.  Providing that the service isn't running, you shouldn't
have a problem with it.  If you are bored you could remove it, but it will
only gain you a couple of hundred kb's of disk space. :)
> 
> > I hope this is of some help.
> 
> It was very helpful!  I greatly appreciate your taking the time to
> give me a hand with this!  I'll take a closer look at the IPCHAINS-
> HOWTO, which I guess has the answers to many of my concerns...
> 
> Thanks a bunch!!

No worries.

See ya

Dean Thompson

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From: Tai-Lin Chin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to make a new bootdisk and a new rootdisk in redhat?
Date: 12 Mar 2001 04:07:09 GMT

[ This is a repost of the following article:                               ]
[ From: Tai-Lin Chin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>                            ]
[ Subject: How to make a new bootdisk and a new rootdisk in redhat?        ]
[ Newsgroups: alt.os.linux                                                 ]
[ Message-ID: <98h2da$bqm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>                            ]

We want to install redhat in a standalone 486 PC board (PC-104).
Since the vendor requires the kernel be patched with certain
routines, we need to create our new boot/root disks from
the kernel source to boot up our card.

Now the question is, in the source we obtained from the
redhat linux distribution, the README only explains how
to create a boot disk without a root disk.  It seems to
assume a hard drive is existing and the root will be mounted
on the hard drive.  However, this solution does not work 
for us since we have only floppy drive in the card and we 
need to boot with the floppy.

We need to mount the root on floppy drive.  Thus we need
to create a root disk for the purpose.  Is there any pointers
for this procedure, or can we get some suggestions regarding
this matter? 

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From: "Pavan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: LILl02ll02ll02ll02ll02ll02ll02ll02ll02ll02ll02ll02l
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:01:13 +0530

> :-)
>
> overlooked this the first time.
> How do you want to access this partition?
> The default DOS MBR can only boot a primary
partition.
> Put LILO either in the MBR or in the extended
partition.
>

I have another boot loader in the MBR(Smart boot
manager) which can load lilo on the extended
partition and claims to even boot dos on a
extended partition( haven't tried this yet ).

Anyway the problem was with reiserfs. I had
installed RH7 on reiserfs(kernel 2.4.2).
Downloaded the new lilo21.7(from sunsite) & now it
is working.

I didn't know lilo was dependent on the
filesystem. I thought it accesses the disks raw
directly with bios calls. The new lilo has a
menu(red color). Can I disable this or how to make
my own menu?

-Pavan



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From: "CD & WL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Is it really worth it ?
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 22:39:54 -0600

Hey all.  This is nothing more than asking for opinions. I am currently
running Win ME and have been tinkering around with Mandrake 7.2.I am getting
really frustrated trying to make my equipment work properly and get the
Linux drivers loaded properly.I am obviously tired of Windoze and want to
try Linux with all the capabilities it has to offer. The setup I use
consists of the following: Abit KT7A Raid w/Duron800 oc'd to 1G,Maxtor 61G
ata100 hdd,
LS120,Turtle Beach Montego2 (Aureal),Matshita cdrw,ATI Radeon 64 ddr,
Kingston KNE111tx nic and USR v90 courier modem (also have dsl modem set up
thru router). Oh,and a MS explorer optical mouse. As you can see by my list,
I will be installing garbage for awhile to make these devices work properly
and have wasted several hours today trying to get sound configured with no
luck (constant crashes following directions with Aureal linux drivers 1.1.2)
Maybe I am just impatient but after dicking around with the sound drivers,to
no avail,and looking forward to the same headaches with my other
components,I am about ready to stick with Windows.My question is simply:
Is it really worth the trouble ?



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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need help with LILO, I think.
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 05:47:16 +0100

cedric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "John Sage"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have no idea about either of them. I did not create that
> /etc/lilo. I guess RH did when installed. The new
> /etc/lilo.conf has 'linear' but not 'compact.' There are no
> 'man' pages for either 'linear or compact,' so I do not

They are most certianly listed and explained in the lilo and lilo.ocnf
man pages! Wherfe are you looking?

> know how to research them.

> /root is on /dev/hda1 and it is in the current
> /etc/lilo.conf. The new /etc/lilo.conf has
> 'root=/dev/hda1' as its last line. It is one of the post
> above.
>> 
>> ...and you are saying "/sbin/lilo" and noting the
>> response, after you
>> change stuff?

> I do not understand /sbin/lilo. I thought /ect/lilo.conf
> created /sbin/lilo. I went to look at it but
> can't. How do you open it to look at it? Do I just do
> '/sbin/lilo' and see what happens?

Has anyone said any different? No .. /sbin/lilo creates
a boot sector, reading /etc/lilo.conf along the way?

Peter

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From: "cedric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is it really worth it ?
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 21:27:58 +0800

In article <mpYq6.81$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "CD & WL"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

A few questions:

How many virus programs are there for MS Windows?
Tons.

How many virus programs are there for Linux?
None. You can't give Linux a virus unless you go out on the
net as root.

Why do most hackers run Linux boxes?
It's very difficult to hack a Linux box.

cedric

> Hey all.  This is nothing more than asking for opinions. I
> am currently running Win ME and have been tinkering around
> with Mandrake 7.2.I am getting really frustrated trying to
> make my equipment work properly and get the Linux drivers
> loaded properly.I am obviously tired of Windoze and want
> to try Linux with all the capabilities it has to offer.
> The setup I use consists of the following: Abit KT7A Raid
> w/Duron800 oc'd to 1G,Maxtor 61G ata100 hdd, LS120,Turtle
> Beach Montego2 (Aureal),Matshita cdrw,ATI Radeon 64 ddr,
> Kingston KNE111tx nic and USR v90 courier modem (also have
> dsl modem set up thru router). Oh,and a MS explorer
> optical mouse. As you can see by my list, I will be
> installing garbage for awhile to make these devices work
> properly and have wasted several hours today trying to get
> sound configured with no luck (constant crashes following
> directions with Aureal linux drivers 1.1.2) Maybe I am
> just impatient but after dicking around with the sound
> drivers,to no avail,and looking forward to the same
> headaches with my other components,I am about ready to
> stick with Windows.My question is simply: Is it really
> worth the trouble ?
> 
>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Miasmal)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: pcmcia setup
Date: 12 Mar 2001 00:45:47 -0500

In article <98gt7t$mab$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Alex Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>try running $ifconfig eth0
>
>does it bring up any info? it should have the MAC address of the card...
>this is needed in the network.opts file - this should look something like:
>
>*,*,*,MAC:AD:DR:ES:S)
> IF_PORT="" #set to 100BaseT if you have a non-sensing 10/100 M nic
> BOOTP="n" #y if you use bootp
> DHCP="n" #y if you use dhcp
> IPADDR="10.1.1.20" #machine ip address
> NETMASK="255.255.255.0" #subnet mask
> NETWORK="10.1.1.10" #not sure exactely what this one does!!!
> BROADCAST="10.1.1.255" # just set this to the .255 on you network
> GATEWAY="10.1.1.254" #whatever your gateway is
> DNS_1="dns server ip" #network dns server 1
> DNS_2="dns server ip" #network dns server 2
> DOMAIN=".mydomain" # suffix of your domain for searching for hosts
>;;
>
>email me if you have problems
>
>alex collins
>
>
>"Miasmal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:98etrm$6p3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>
>> I'm trying to set up a D-Link de-660ct pcmcia network card on my laptop
>> (Toshiba 2545xcdt) on Redhat 7.0 (2.2.16-22).
>>
>><snip>
>>
>> What is a quick and dirty way of setting this up?  The card will be
>> installed indefinitely, I don't need hot-swapping capability.

hmm.. somehow I got this set up while playing with it.
I have the same kind of setup as above, but with a  'case "$ADDRESS"...esac'
lines added.  I also fiddled with linuxconf in X; I had to add all
the addresses for the ethernet adapter.

However, I have to manually remove the pcmcia card and then reinsert it
(high beep/low beep) in order for the system to recognize it after a
reboot.  It says eth0 initialization failed when starting up.
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   .________|________. Commercial Pilot, Certified Flight Instructor //
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From: Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: QRPFF Source Code
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:20:27 +1300

Apparently the PERL program below can decrypt DVDs a la DeCSS. 

Anyone tried it?  

It would be nice to know

Their "qrpff" program is a more compact cousin of the DeCSS utility
   that eight movie studios successfully sued to remove from the website
   of 2600 Magazine. But unlike DeCSS, qrpff is abbreviated enough for
   critics of the Motion Picture Association of America to include in,
   for example, e-mail signature files -- and many already have.
   
   "I think there's some value in demonstrating how simple these things
   really are and how preposterous it is to try to restrict their
   distribution," says Winstein, a 19-year-old MIT sophomore computer
   science major.
   
   [...]


Usage:
qrpff 153 2 8 105 225 /mnt/dvd/VOB_FILE_NAME | extract_mpeg2 | mpeg2_dec
-


#!/usr/bin/perl -w
# 531-byte qrpff-fast, Keith Winstein and Marc Horowitz
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
# MPEG 2 PS VOB file on stdin -> descrambled output on stdout
# arguments: title key bytes in least to most-significant order
$_='while(read+STDIN,$_,2048){$a=29;$b=73;$c=142;$t=255;@t=map{$_%16or$t^=$c^=(
$m=(11,10,116,100,11,122,20,100)[$_/16%8])&110;$t^=(72,@z=(64,72,$a^=12*($_%16
-2?0:$m&17)),$b^=$_%64?12:0,@z)[$_%8]}(16..271);if((@a=unx"C*",$_)[20]&48){$h
=5;$_=unxb24,join"",@b=map{xB8,unxb8,chr($_^$a[--$h+84])}@ARGV;s/...$/1$&/;$
d=unxV,xb25,$_;$e=256|(ord$b[4])<<9|ord$b[3];$d=$d>>8^($f=$t&($d>>12^$d>>4^
$d^$d/8))<<17,$e=$e>>8^($t&($g=($q=$e>>14&7^$e)^$q*8^$q<<6))<<9,$_=$t[$_]^
(($h>>=8)+=$f+(~$g&$t))for@a[128..$#a]}print+x"C*",@a}';s/x/pack+/g;eval


-- 
 Regards,

 Steve Withers
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Registered Linux user #24688
 http://counter.li.org

 "First, they ignore you. Then they
 laugh at you. Then they fight you.
 Then you win." Mahatma Ghandi

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From: "Jack Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Install Problem
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 01:24:57 -0800

Im trying to install pklinux on my old 486 (im trying to turn it into a file
server).  When i go to install it, everthing seems to work fine, but when it
tries to reboot the kernal, i get 'invalid system disk' every time.  any
ideas on what the problem may be?  sorry for being such a newbie.



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Reply-To: "Keith Twombley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Keith Twombley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: What distribution should I use to make a compact Linux system < 170MB?
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 06:46:04 GMT

basically, I want a Linux router with minimal services, like httpd and ftpd.

I have a 170MB disk, but the smallest install of Redhat 7.0 is about 200MB
(without any needed packages)

I don't quite want LRP because I want more flexibility, and have more HD
space than 1.44MB

any help?

thanks!

-daoist




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yves Bellefeuille)
Subject: Re: What distribution should I use to make a compact Linux system < 170MB?
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 01:58:22 -0500
Reply-To: Yves Bellefeuille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, "Keith Twombley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have a 170MB disk, but the smallest install of Redhat 7.0 is about 
> 200MB (without any needed packages)

Try Debian 2.2: a minimal setup is 75 Mb.

Newsgroups line trimmed: comp.os.linux.help and comp.os.linux.questions
are "bogus" groups.

-- 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: What distribution should I use to make a compact Linux system < 170MB?
Date: 12 Mar 2001 07:02:04 GMT

Keith Twombley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> basically, I want a Linux router with minimal services, like httpd and ftpd.
> I have a 170MB disk, but the smallest install of Redhat 7.0 is about 200MB
> (without any needed packages)

I think you can use "expert" installation in RedHat to install a subset
of the system, or you can use a more customizable distribution like
Debian or Slackware. Anyway, you will have to recompile the kernel 
after all.

Davide

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How to make a new bootdisk and a new rootdisk in redhat?
Date: 12 Mar 2001 07:04:52 GMT

Tai-Lin Chin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Now the question is, in the source we obtained from the
> redhat linux distribution, the README only explains how
> to create a boot disk without a root disk.
<ZAP>
> We need to mount the root on floppy drive.  Thus we need
> to create a root disk for the purpose.  Is there any pointers
> for this procedure, or can we get some suggestions regarding
> this matter? 

You can use a RamDisk for the root, or use a 'swap-disk'
solution or have the boot and root in the same disk. See the
bootdisk-howto and the diskless-howto.

Davide


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Install new kernel (2.4.1)
Date: 12 Mar 2001 07:07:40 GMT

Yarraman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can anyone give me a link to a page on the internet where I can learn how to
> do it (in simple English!)

Take a look at the kernel-howto on www.linux.org (documentation page).
If you are upgrading from 2.2 to 2.4, you will have to upgrade also
the modutils (Utility to use modules).

Davide

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