Linux-Setup Digest #824, Volume #20 Wed, 14 Mar 01 07:13:05 EST
Contents:
Re: Red Hat 7.0 jumpy cursor in Xfree 4 (Genesis)
viewing image without x?? ("kellyboy")
Re: A Better Web Browser...PLEASE! (The_saint)
LoadLin (The_saint)
LILO gives error 0x10 with boot disk every time ("Rabi Lahiri")
Re: Why do we bother again?? (Richard Steiner)
Re: LILO gives error 0x10 with boot disk every time ("Eric")
Re: 1024 cylinder limit - NEW QUESTION (Vinay Avasthi)
Re: CORBA on Linux (Vinay Avasthi)
Re: GOOD Linux email client (Vinay Avasthi)
Re: NIC card problems with MDK 7.2 (Huw Lynes)
Re: LILO gives error 0x10 with boot disk every time ("Rabi Lahiri")
Re: problem of disk drive letter with win98, win2000, linux on one HD ("Eric")
Re: locale not supported, XNLSPATH not set, netscape (Sven Mascheck)
Re: LILO gives error 0x10 with boot disk every time ("Eric")
Re: GOOD Linux email client (Donald K Knepshield)
Re: Why do we bother again?? ("Dale Curran")
Re: Modem Question! (M. Buchenrieder)
New hard disk partitioning ("Jacob =?iso-8859-1?b?SWxz+A==?= Christensen")
Re: LILO + software RAID (Emilio)
Re: LILO + software RAID (Emilio)
Re: QRPFF Source Code (Samuel Hocevar)
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Subject: Re: Red Hat 7.0 jumpy cursor in Xfree 4
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Genesis)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 08:35:21 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Craig Kelley) wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>Does it work on the console with gpm?
>
Yes.
>Does it still do that if you kill gpm before starting X11?
>
Yes.
-Genesis
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From: "kellyboy" <kellyboy@nospanner>
Subject: viewing image without x??
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 02:50:19 -0600
I know that svga lib is the one that is used to view graphic of whatever
without using X. Im wondering there are others other than SVGA? Is there a
3D library such as OpenGL to view 3d image without X?
kellyboy
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From: The_saint <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: A Better Web Browser...PLEASE!
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 16:55:05 +0800
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> Opera is now free, I believe.
>
>
Yes, but spyware or ad-ware, I believe :-)
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From: The_saint <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LoadLin
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 16:54:55 +0800
Hi there,
Where to find info how use LoadLin. I got Mandrake 7.0 CD, but no mention
about loadlin.
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From: "Rabi Lahiri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LILO gives error 0x10 with boot disk every time
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 00:54:32 -0800
I'm trying to install Redhat 7.0 on my computer and I cannot get the thing
to boot after installation no matter what I try. I have several SCSI drives
attached to an adaptec 2940UW. One drive (sda) has win2k installed on it,
and I'm trying to install Linux onto a different drive (sdd). I know it's
not the 1024-cylinder problem because the drive I'm installing to only has
522 cylinders. Installation appears to go fine - I choose to install LILO
but not to the MBR and I create a boot disk, but then when I try to boot
from the boot disk it starts loading linux (it gets to the point where it
says "Loading linux.................") and then it says "Error 0x10". I
tried installing mandrake 7.0 and the same thing happened. Anybody have any
idea what's going on?
thanks,
-Rabi Lahiri
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Subject: Re: Why do we bother again??
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 02:43:47 -0600
Here in comp.os.linux.setup, "Dale Curran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
spake unto us, saying:
>some of you sit there in ultimate judgement upon the Gates product as
>if you were an all knowing computer god.....
...as I have the right to do on those machines which I control. :-)
>what you fail to recognise is what windows does it does better the Linux
>......... AT THE MOMENT.
A lot depends on what "it" is.
Linux can easily be argued to be a better file server than Windows, a
better firewall OS than Windows, and a more affordable/flexible desktop
OS than Windows.
Everything depends on one's skillset and one's priorities.
If one has an interest in running games or certain high-profile retail
software products, it is possible that Windows is a better choice.
If you don't, Linux might actually be a better alternative.
>I am a newbie to the worlds most awe inspiring O/S
That would be OS/2...? :-)
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-Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Eden Prairie, MN
OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
+ PC/GEOS + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
1957 Fortran is introduced
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO gives error 0x10 with boot disk every time
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 11:07:09 +0100
show us your lilo.conf, and the output from `/sbin/lilo -v -v`
Eric
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vinay Avasthi)
Subject: Re: 1024 cylinder limit - NEW QUESTION
Date: 14 Mar 2001 09:53:17 GMT
I think you can delete the new linux partition and then using fips
reduce the size of windows partition to bare minimum.
After that you can create a linux partition of 6GB size then create a
new partition which will become d drive on windows.
That's how I have setup my machine.
VA
In article <98av3v$bsr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jeremy Paiz wrote:
>"David Efflandt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> On Fri, 2 Mar 2001 17:30:17 -0500, Javier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>>
>> If you are uncertain if your lilo has the 1024 cyl limit, it is best to
>> create a primary /boot partition ending below cyl 1024 (for a drive around
>> 8 GB or more this could be a 1 cyl 16 MB partition). You can either put
>> LILO there (preferred so Windows does not step on it) and make that the
>> active boot partition or LILO can go in the MBR (and make sure that you
>> have a working boot floppy).
>>
>
>i have the same problem. i'm a newbie to linux and am unfamiliar with many
>of these concepts, such as partitioning and the 1024 cylinder problem. i
>currently have a windows computer with a ~38gb hard drive. for obvious
>reasons, i would like to make the transition to linux. for the time being i
>am trying to setup a dual boot system with windows and linux, until i am
>fully comfortable with linux to make a full switch. so far i have created 2
>partitions using fips because i didn't want to destroy the current windows
>partition. so i have the original windows partition re-sized to ~32gb, and
>a new one ~6gb for linux. i'm trying to install redhat linux 6.2 on the new
>partition, so in the installation i destroy the new free partition and start
>to partition /, /boot, etc... however, i get an error that the /boot
>partition is too large, even at 1mb (the minimum). i feel that i am
>experiencing the 1024 cylinder problem because of the ~32gb windows
>partition.
>
>so what do i have to do to complete my installation? you suggested to the
>previous postee that a 1 cylinder 16mb partition be created below cylinder
>1024. how do i do this? do i have to run fips again to make another split?
>or would you suggest another non-destructive partitioning tool, like
>partition magic? someone suggested to me that i run fdisk from dos and the
>command /mbr, but i thought this just loads the mbr with whatever the active
>partition is. should i inactivate the windows partition, then run fdisk
>/mbr? wouldn't this essentially erase the mbr? would i be able to install
>linux then after that?
>
>if anyone can help, please feel free to be as ridiculously detailed as you
>can. i'm very new to these concepts. thanks in advance.
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vinay Avasthi)
Subject: Re: CORBA on Linux
Date: 14 Mar 2001 09:54:34 GMT
Use TAO. It works well. http://www.cs.wustl.edu/~schmidt.
VA
Zhihui Zhang wrote:
>
>Is there any public-domain software on CORBA on linux? I hope that I can
>find one that I can demonstrate to students and do a little exercises (a
>small project).
>
>Thanks,
>
>-Zhihui
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vinay Avasthi)
Subject: Re: GOOD Linux email client
Date: 14 Mar 2001 09:55:40 GMT
If you are not too crazy about X-windows applications, use Mutt.
http://www.mutt.org
VA
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Roger Blake wrote:
>On Fri, 09 Mar 2001 03:58:29 GMT, Paul Folbrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I'm not crazy about either Netscape or Mozilla. What else is there? I
>>sure wish Eudora had a Linux version.
>
>Pine and elm both work well. If you've gotta have point-and-click,
>I've gotten Pegasus mail to work under wine, possibly Eudora will also?
>(Then of course, there's always Win4Lin.)
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Huw Lynes)
Subject: Re: NIC card problems with MDK 7.2
Date: 14 Mar 2001 10:12:43 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <nVBr6.410218$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Trent Engler wrote:
>I am a Linux Newbie and am about to pull my hair out trying to install a
>network card.
>
>I have tried both a Linksys Etherfast 10/100 card and a D-Link DFE530TX+
>card. Neither one are automatically recognized on install. With respect to
>the D-Link card, I've read that the TX+ model uses the Realtek 8139 driver
>(and not the Via Rhine driver used by the TX model) however during install
>both of the Realtek modules (8129 & 8139) failed.
>I'm currently trying to get the D-Link to work but have the Linksys card
>available as well if installing it would be preferable / easier. I've
>scoured the net for a how-to concerning the D-Link and MDK 7.2 but it
>appears that most everyone is reporting that it is automatically recognized
>on install.
Hi Trent,
looks like you have exactly the same problem I had.
spent a couple of weeks going round in circles
trying to get the D-link to work and failed
miserably. In the end I swapped it for an old D-link
realtek card which works fine. I have my suspicions
that D-link have changed something in the card
without telling anyone, but of course I have no
evidence to back that up.
Hope you have better luck than I had.
Huw Lynes
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From: "Rabi Lahiri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO gives error 0x10 with boot disk every time
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 02:33:14 -0800
I can't boot into linux at all...that's my problem.
thanks
"Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:98nfse$6d6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> show us your lilo.conf, and the output from `/sbin/lilo -v -v`
>
> Eric
>
>
>
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: problem of disk drive letter with win98, win2000, linux on one HD
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 11:46:31 +0100
> the partition of the harddisk: primary (FAT32), 1.5G, win98; primary
(linux
> /boot), 50M; extended, 10G with linux / and swap as logic partitions;
> primary (FAT32), 8G, win2000.
>
not enough info
show us `/sbin/fdisk -l /dev/hda`
Eric
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From: Sven Mascheck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: locale not supported, XNLSPATH not set, netscape
Date: 14 Mar 2001 11:46:53 +0100
Rejo Zenger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ++ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sven Mascheck:
>>> $ netscape
>>> netscape: locale `en_US' not supported by Xlib; trying `C'.
>>> netscape: locale `C' not supported either.
>>> Perhaps the $XNLSPATH environment variable is not set correctly?
>> What happens if you unset XNLSPATH?
> Same thing.
Do you have set LOCPATH?
Are you calling the binary or a wrapper (which sets variables)?
Does anything like that happen with any other program than Netscape and SO?
See your version of environ(5) [manpage in section 5] about
other possible "non standard" Environmentvariables influencing
this national language supprt stuff.
Otherwise i guess you have set some standard variables in your
environment (LANG, LC_CTYPE, perhaps even LC_ALL, perhaps other LC_*)
and netscape is stumbling over something...
Which locale categories have you set? locale(1).
Which categories do you really want to set and with what
value [see URL] (perhaps only LC_CTYPE?). Start netscape with a
minimum (no locale at all for debuging)
Use strace(1) to find out where netscape is eventually failing.
The "locale `C' not supported either" is very suspicious.
Perhaps your locale installation is broken (glibc upgrade
in the past?).
More info and some debug help:
<URL:http://www.uni-ulm.de/~s_smasch/Locale/>
Sven
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO gives error 0x10 with boot disk every time
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 11:57:19 +0100
> I can't boot into linux at all...that's my problem.
>
Not even with the CD?
at the lilo promt: "linux rescue root=/dev/sddXXX"
Eric
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donald K Knepshield)
Subject: Re: GOOD Linux email client
Date: 14 Mar 2001 10:46:24 GMT
Paul Folbrecht ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I'm not crazy about either Netscape or Mozilla. What else is there? I
: sure wish Eudora had a Linux version.
:
I use Evolution (beta 0.9 now) and I have to say that I like it. I
haven't had the latest build crash on me and it works gret for what
I use it for. (Email handling, I don't use any of the calendar or
scheduling features.) I use Ximian Gnome, so I just had to go a
update using RedCarpet, but you can get the source from Ximian's web
site (http://www.ximian.com) and build it yourself.
--
Kevin Knepshield
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From: "Dale Curran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why do we bother again??
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:12:29 +1100
Alright i am sorry for questioning linux ... the answers as to whether it is
worth it or not were already known to me I was making sure they were the
right...and sort of just trying to get a bit of a conversation going in an
attempt to get help for the real reason I write to these news groups ....
help with Linux
can someone PLEEEASE help me with my mounting problems ... it is really hard
to learn Linux if you can't even get started !!!
Thanks in advance
"Dale Curran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> My friends,
>
> some of you sit there in ultimate judgement upon the Gates product as if
you
> were an all knowing computer god.....
> what you fail to recognise is what windows does it does better the Linux
> ......... AT THE MOMENT.
>
> I am a newbie to the worlds most awe inspiring O/S and many years ago I
was
> a newbie to windows .... which one was easier to set up and even more
> importantly KEEP going .... windows that's what it is designed for ....
sure
> it crashes like a bitch but when you reboot your computer in the morning
at
> least you know everything is (90% of the time ) gonna be there
>
> HAVING said that, I want the Linux community to show me the error of my
> ways.... show me and all the newbies out there that Linux IS better will
GET
> better and will utterly decimate the crap that is MSWindows !!
>
> Let me give you a chance .... I have just installed Linux-Mandrake 7.2 to
a
> partition of my HD. It seemed to set up fine .... SEEMED ... when I
rebooted
> and entered for the first time I perplexed to find that I (as any user on
> the system) have NO ACCESS RIGHTS to ANY removable media (floppy and 2
> CDROM's) even though they were mounted. I investigated only to find that
I
> couldn't change any access rights for a few reasons ...
>
> One very big one is I cannot in any way open a terminal in KDE2 as every
> single time I try the machine turns into your so hated Windows machine and
> god forbid locks up...completely.
>
> So I try's the GUI setup interface .... nothing ! It won't let me change a
> thing....
>
> aghhhhhhhh ... I love the idea of Linux and when it is working it really
> does live up to its name AND MORE.
>
> So please help this newbie see the light
> Thanks
>
> --
>
> --
> **************************************************
> If stuck up yuppies in English speaking countries say "Ciao" .....
> do stuck up yuppies in Italy say "See ya digger" ??
> **************************************************
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: Modem Question!
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 07:42:37 GMT
Jay & Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
>My question is I want to install my modem so I can use it for a fax.
If it's a real hardware modem, all you need is to setup a program
to watch over the serial port. mgetty/sendfax will do it, hylafax
as well. Alas...
>Problem is when I run the HardDrake it won't find or do anything. I
>can't grab an option for it. Where do I go to install my modem. Rockwell
>HCF 56k Fax RTAD PCI Modem!
^^^^^
...this isn't a modem at all. It's a software-driven data pump.
Throw it away, as it is unuseable outside of a MS Win* environment.
Get yourself a nice, cheap external serial modem.
Michael
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From: "Jacob =?iso-8859-1?b?SWxz+A==?= Christensen"
<firelake@(nospam)mail1.stofanet.dk>
Subject: New hard disk partitioning
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 12:21:20 +0100
Hi.
I recently bought a new hard disk. So now I have two: hda and hdb. I boot
from hda. I created a file system on hdb with the command "mkfs /dev/hdb".
mkfs warned that it had no partitions, but I just proceeded. Everything
works fine, but is there a risk that I will run into trouble later for
not partitioning hdb?
Best regards,
Jacob Ils�.
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From: Emilio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: LILO + software RAID
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 11:35:55 GMT
John in SD wrote:
>
> Suggest you upgrade to a newer version of LILO -- one that can boot above the
> 1024 cylinder limit.
>
> --John
> LILO version 21.7 (24-Feb-2001) source at
> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/system/boot/lilo
> patches at ftp://brun.dyndns.org/pub/linux/lilo
Thanks John! Unfortunately LILO 21.7, although able to handle the large
number of cylinders of my HDs, only supports RAID 1 boot partitions and
I'm using RAID 0. :-(
--
Emilio Federici
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ:27013758
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From: Emilio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: LILO + software RAID
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 11:35:57 GMT
John in SD wrote:
>
> Suggest you upgrade to a newer version of LILO -- one that can boot above the
> 1024 cylinder limit.
>
> --John
>
> LILO version 21.7 (24-Feb-2001) source at
> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/system/boot/lilo
> patches at ftp://brun.dyndns.org/pub/linux/lilo
Thanks John! Unfortunately LILO 21.7, although able to handle the large
number of cylinders of my HDs, only supports RAID 1 boot partitions and
I'm using RAID 0. :-(
--
Emilio Federici
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ:27013758
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Samuel Hocevar)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: QRPFF Source Code
Date: 14 Mar 2001 11:56:35 GMT
On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:20:27 +1300,
Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Apparently the PERL program below can decrypt DVDs a la DeCSS.
>
> Anyone tried it?
It works, but you will need to authenticate to the DVD drive and get
its title key before being able to access the scrambled sectors of the
DVD and decrypt them. Tools like 'css-auth' will do the job.
Sam.
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