Linux-Setup Digest #825, Volume #20 Wed, 14 Mar 01 10:13:06 EST
Contents:
Display ("Wayne Howarth")
Re: Why do we bother again?? ("Eric")
Re: New hard disk partitioning ("Eric")
Re: Display ("Eric")
Alcatel ADSL USB Speedtouch modem help ("Chris")
Re: Gnome/Enlightenment & Virtual Screens (Jeffrey Scott)
Re: LILO gives error 0x10 with boot disk every time (Thierry BODHUIN)
Change of Ultra Connectors on Adaptec 2940U2W and Redhat 7.0. lilo ? (Thierry
BODHUIN)
Installed RH 7 in english when its starts its all Japanese !!! ("Chris")
Re: Windows 2000 -> Linux shares ("Leejen")
Re: Is it really worth it ? No. ("Gene Heskett")
Re: LILO gives error 0x10 with boot disk every time ("Eric")
Re: Is it really worth it ? No. ("Eric")
Re: Display ("Wayne Howarth")
Re: Why do we bother again?? (Roger Blake)
ftp and real users. (Larry Hotchkiss)
How to disable screen blanker (Paul Weber)
Re: gcc include files (Angry Bob)
Re: Display ("Eric")
Re: NIC card problems with MDK 7.2 (Angry Bob)
Re: boot's fsck skips / -- severe problems (Derek Viljoen)
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From: "Wayne Howarth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: Display
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 12:17:27 -0000
Hi,
I've just reinstalled the RH 6.2 distribution (again). I've repartitioned my
h/d so that the boot partition is the first on the disk which gets me round
the 1024 cylinder problem.
When I now boot into Linux I am presented with the graphical login screen.
The display seems to flicker more than it does under Windows and am not sure
what to do about it. The monitor I have is a Tatung (model C5BZR) which was
detected by the installation by 'auto probe'. I overrode the Hz settings
from 30 - 70 to 50 - 60Hz which is what it says on th eback of the monitor.
I am asking this question because a while ago a monitor I had stopped
working. It was under warranty so was replaced with no problem. I guess I'm
a bit paranoid....
Any help would be great.
Wayne.
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why do we bother again??
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 13:33:46 +0100
> Alright i am sorry for questioning linux ... the answers as to whether it
is
> worth it or not were already known to me I was making sure they were the
> right...and sort of just trying to get a bit of a conversation going in an
> attempt to get help for the real reason I write to these news groups ....
> help with Linux
>
> can someone PLEEEASE help me with my mounting problems ... it is really
hard
> to learn Linux if you can't even get started !!!
Then don't troll.
It's a good way to avoid responses.
`cat /etc/fstab`
Will probably show that you're not allowed to mount floppy/cdrom etc.
Either that or the devices are not accesible for you (ls -l /dev/fd0 eg.)
Eric
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New hard disk partitioning
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 13:38:13 +0100
> I recently bought a new hard disk. So now I have two: hda and hdb. I boot
> from hda. I created a file system on hdb with the command "mkfs /dev/hdb".
> mkfs warned that it had no partitions, but I just proceeded. Everything
> works fine, but is there a risk that I will run into trouble later for
> not partitioning hdb?
>
that depends.
Tools like partition magic wil fail on that disk I suppose.
But if you never plan to do anything else with that disc,
you should be fine. Other OS's will not be able to understand
that disc, and may mess it up, so if you have ie. windows installed
things are a bit different.
If nothing is on that disc yet, I would start over, and partition it first.
Just make one big partition, essential nothing different from what
you've done now, but it is better practice.
Eric
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Display
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 13:44:58 +0100
> When I now boot into Linux I am presented with the graphical login screen.
> The display seems to flicker more than it does under Windows and am not
sure
> what to do about it. The monitor I have is a Tatung (model C5BZR) which
was
> detected by the installation by 'auto probe'. I overrode the Hz settings
> from 30 - 70 to 50 - 60Hz which is what it says on th eback of the
monitor.
;-)
Yeah all these numbers tend to get a bit confusing.
The 50-60 Hz most likely refers to the power net frequency, which is 50 Hz
in Europe, 60 Hz in the US. This monitor can handle both.
It has nothing to do with the scan frequencies.
Change them back
##############################################
In my XF86Config it states:
# HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified.
# HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.
HorizSync 30.0-107.0
# VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified.
# VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.
VertRefresh 50.0-170.0
###################################################
Please note that it refers to the manual.
Get the numbers from that manual, not from the backplane of your monitor.
Otherwise, look it up at the XFree86 monitor database.
Eric
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From: "Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: btopenworld.broadband.technical.chat
Subject: Alcatel ADSL USB Speedtouch modem help
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 13:11:50 -0000
Hi all
Two points:
1. Has anyone managed to configure this modem with Redhat ?
2. The PC i am running linux on does not have a USB port. If I buy a
standard PCI-USB card, will Redhat linux support the USB ports ? Could
someone with same configuration let me know...
Thanks all
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From: Jeffrey Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Gnome/Enlightenment & Virtual Screens
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 07:21:33 -0600
Thanks a bunch, I'm an idiot with limited time...two strikes against me.
Next stoopid question. My 'iconized' windows disappear...that is, they go
somewhere I can't retrieve. They are not on the panel at the bottom, and
there is no 'icon box' in the panel that holds them. I assume this is as easy
to fix as my last question, but once again I can't find it. The 'help' system
seems more useless that a typical Bill Gates app...scary.
Thanks,
Jeff
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 12:34:21 +0100
From: Thierry BODHUIN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO gives error 0x10 with boot disk every time
I am on Redhat 7.0 updated with a Adaptec 2940U2W.
I changed myself the connector on which the Ultra 2 Wide scsi disks
where
located during setup (on Ultra Wide only) to the connector Ultra 2 Wide.
It was an installtion mistake that I found when I wished to install a
DAT backup
on the 50 pin connector.
Then Linux can not launch anymore.
What I need to do to be able to change of connector from Ultra Wide to
Ultra 2
Wide my disks ?
As I have the same problem as you...
I think your problem seems related to mine.
My lilo.conf is : for Ultra Wide connection
boot=/dev/sda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
prompt
timeout=50
message=/boot/message
linear
default=linux
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.16-22
label=linux
initrd=/boot/initrd-2.2.16-22.img
read-only
root=/dev/sda7
/sbin/lilo -v -v :
LILO version 21.4-4, Copyright (C) 1992-1998 Werner Almesberger
'lba32' extensions Copyright (C) 1999,2000 John Coffman
Reading boot sector from /dev/sda
Merging with /boot/boot.b
Secondary loader: 11 sectors.
Mapping message file /boot/message
Message: 46 sectors.
Boot image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.16-22
Setup length is 7 sectors.
Mapped 1228 sectors.
Mapping RAM disk /boot/initrd-2.2.16-22.img
RAM disk: 932 sectors.
Added linux *
/boot/boot.0800 exists - no backup copy made.
Map file size: 15872 bytes.
Writing boot sector.
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 12:36:21 +0100
From: Thierry BODHUIN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Change of Ultra Connectors on Adaptec 2940U2W and Redhat 7.0. lilo ?
I am on Redhat 7.0 updated with a Adaptec 2940U2W.
I changed myself the connector on which the Ultra 2 Wide scsi disks
where
located during setup (on Ultra Wide only) to the connector Ultra 2 Wide.
It was an installtion mistake that I found when I wished to install a
DAT backup
on the 50 pin connector.
Then Linux can not launch anymore.
What I need to do to be able to change of connector from Ultra Wide to
Ultra 2 Wide my disks ?
My lilo.conf is : for Ultra Wide connection
boot=/dev/sda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
prompt
timeout=50
message=/boot/message
linear
default=linux
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.16-22
label=linux
initrd=/boot/initrd-2.2.16-22.img
read-only
root=/dev/sda7
/sbin/lilo -v -v :
LILO version 21.4-4, Copyright (C) 1992-1998 Werner Almesberger
'lba32' extensions Copyright (C) 1999,2000 John Coffman
Reading boot sector from /dev/sda
Merging with /boot/boot.b
Secondary loader: 11 sectors.
Mapping message file /boot/message
Message: 46 sectors.
Boot image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.16-22
Setup length is 7 sectors.
Mapped 1228 sectors.
Mapping RAM disk /boot/initrd-2.2.16-22.img
RAM disk: 932 sectors.
Added linux *
/boot/boot.0800 exists - no backup copy made.
Map file size: 15872 bytes.
Writing boot sector.
df with Ultra Wide:
Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda7 256667 64538 178877 27% /
/dev/sda1 23302 5536 16563 26% /boot
/dev/sdb6 4506608 2841836 1435848 67% /home
/dev/sda8 3984672 2005204 1777052 54% /usr
/dev/sdb5 280005 56704 208845 22% /var
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From: "Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.general
Subject: Installed RH 7 in english when its starts its all Japanese !!!
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 13:29:34 -0000
Could someone help please cause my Japanese is a bit behind !!!!!!!!
how can I configure gnome to start in english ??
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From: "Leejen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 -> Linux shares
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 23:40:47 +1000
Authentication mode was incorrectly set.
Thanks for the help anyway.
Regards
Leigh
"NoSpam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:98lmlr$c8k$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> You definitely need to setup your Linux box as a SaMBa server... Then it's
> like a Windows machine ;-)
>
> "Leejen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:3aab7784@grissom...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am trying to Browse my Linux shares from Windows 2000. When I click
on
> > the Linux computer, I get a dialog box that prompts me for a user name
and
> > password. Type in the correct ones and it just reappears, for ever and
a
> > day.
> >
> > I have done plenty of reading and am aware that as of NT4 SP3 the
default
> is
> > encrypted password. I have read ENCRYPTION.txt, WinNT,txt and Win95.NT,
> to
> > no avail. I have created a smbpasswd file from my Linux passwd file.
> >
> > I know this works because before Linux crashed and I started from
scratch,
> > it was operating successfully, i.e. I could browse Linux from Windows
2000
> > Explorer..
> >
> > Any other ideas?
> >
> > Regards
> > Leigh
> >
> > CC to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Date: 14 Mar 2001 4:45:40 -0500
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is it really worth it ? No.
Gene Heskett sends Greetings to Eric ;
>> So far it is not worth it.
> That's a matter of opinion. For me it is.
>> I have LM 7.2 I can't install Wordperfect 8,
Because the fscking installer script on the cd is useless with a
non-corel box stock release of linux. Specificly, it checks the kernel
version, gets the wrong response from uname, and then goes nuts making
empty directories in '/' but failing to put anything in them because the
kernel version isn't to their liking.
Yeah, I bought it at list price, 2 weeks later it was down to 10 bucks.
Worthless POS, and several messages to corel have gone unanswered.
If I was a lisp programmer, I might try to re-write that script to make
it work, but lisp is one language I've never been able to fathom.
Corel, even in their linux enthusiast days, couldn't seem to get away
from the mentality of haveing the whole install under their control, and
if the system install wasn't to their liking, why it must be a pie-rat
copy or something. Frankly, I'm not amused.
> Why not?
>> can
>> install Corel PhotoPaint but it won't run (fonttastic error),
> Use the Gimp
>> cannot install a
>> USB modem,
> USB support is improved in 2.4 kernels IIRC.
>> and locks with a Kernel Panic if I boot in NSB or Failsafe mode.
> What the f*ck is NSB and failsafe mode?
>> I've asked over and over and no one can help.
> Then give mor einfo on the specific problems
>> Windows may crash often, but between crashes everything actually
>> works.
> Or stay with windows if you like it better.
> No one is forcing you to use linux.
> Eric
Cheers, Gene
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO gives error 0x10 with boot disk every time
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 14:42:13 +0100
> I am on Redhat 7.0 updated with a Adaptec 2940U2W.
>
> I changed myself the connector on which the Ultra 2 Wide scsi disks
> where
> located during setup (on Ultra Wide only) to the connector Ultra 2 Wide.
I have no clue what the implications of this are, but I would expect that
running /sbin/lilo would change any differnces.
Did you have conflicting ID's ?
Did you perhaps not terminate the chain correctly?
> Then Linux can not launch anymore.
> What I need to do to be able to change of connector from Ultra Wide to
> Ultra 2
> Wide my disks ?
> As I have the same problem as you...
>
> I think your problem seems related to mine.
>
> My lilo.conf is : for Ultra Wide connection
>
> boot=/dev/sda
> map=/boot/map
> install=/boot/boot.b
> prompt
> timeout=50
> message=/boot/message
> linear
> default=linux
>
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.16-22
> label=linux
> initrd=/boot/initrd-2.2.16-22.img
> read-only
> root=/dev/sda7
>
> /sbin/lilo -v -v :
>
> LILO version 21.4-4, Copyright (C) 1992-1998 Werner Almesberger
> 'lba32' extensions Copyright (C) 1999,2000 John Coffman
>
> Reading boot sector from /dev/sda
> Merging with /boot/boot.b
> Secondary loader: 11 sectors.
> Mapping message file /boot/message
> Message: 46 sectors.
> Boot image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.16-22
> Setup length is 7 sectors.
> Mapped 1228 sectors.
> Mapping RAM disk /boot/initrd-2.2.16-22.img
> RAM disk: 932 sectors.
> Added linux *
> /boot/boot.0800 exists - no backup copy made.
> Map file size: 15872 bytes.
> Writing boot sector.
>
>
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is it really worth it ? No.
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 14:49:47 +0100
> Because the fscking installer script on the cd is useless with a
> non-corel box stock release of linux. Specificly, it checks the kernel
> version, gets the wrong response from uname, and then goes nuts making
> empty directories in '/' but failing to put anything in them because the
in / ?
What are they doing there?
> kernel version isn't to their liking.
Is that all?
then fake it.
make a small private uname script that gets executed instead, and let
it return what the installer expects. It may be dangerous though, if you
must run
this installation as root, I wouldn't try this.
I just downloaded WP8 a long time ago and installed it on my RH6 system
No problems found, but that was a while ago, CorelLinux didn't exist yet
then IIRC
I never really used it though.
Eric
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From: "Wayne Howarth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Display
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 13:59:28 -0000
Thanks. Where can I find the moinitor database?
> Please note that it refers to the manual.
> Get the numbers from that manual, not from the backplane of your monitor.
> Otherwise, look it up at the XFree86 monitor database.
>
> Eric
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roger Blake)
Subject: Re: Why do we bother again??
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 14:18:36 GMT
On Wed, 14 Mar 2001 12:16:58 +1100, Dale Curran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>some of you sit there in ultimate judgement upon the Gates product as if you
>were an all knowing computer god.....
While I do not consider myself an "all knowing computer god," I *have*
been professionally involved in computing for about 25 years now and have
in that time have worked with many, many different computer architectures
and operating systems from mainframes and minis to microcomputers and
embedded systems.
IBM-compatible PCs running Windows are by far the worst of the lot.
Linux does have a way to go before it is friendly enough for today's
typical (I'll say "non-technical" rather than "clueless") user, but from
the standpoint of efficiency, flexibility, and reliability vs. Windows,
it's no contest.
--
Roger Blake
(remove second "g" and second "m" from address for email)
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From: Larry Hotchkiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ftp and real users.
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 08:26:03 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ok, I am looking to set up ftp for real users on a temporary basis (red
hat 7). I installed wu ftpd 2.6.1 and anon ftp 3.0-9. I can log in
anonymously, but not as a real user, what am I doing wrong?
--
Larry H
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From: Paul Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to disable screen blanker
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 08:34:13 -0600
I have a client who wants the screen blanker disabled. I have never
been asked this question before and can't seem to find the right switch.
It is a server, no X, sitting at a login prompt. He doesn't want to
push the shift key to make the screen show up.
Where is the magic key?
Thanx!
-Paul
Linux Guru wannabe
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From: Angry Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: gcc include files
Date: 14 Mar 2001 14:31:56 GMT
What would you like to read? [[EMAIL PROTECTED] or ?*]
this is a Paul Kimoto scroll! it says:
> In article <988h5f$p62$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Angry Bob wrote:
>> type 'export'
>>
>> look for LD_LIBRARY_PATH
> LD_LIBRARY_PATH affects what happens to compiled programs at runtime.
> It doesn't affect where gcc (or, more properly, the linker ld) looks
> for libraries.
it was pointed out to me that I put the wrong variable....
s/LD_LIBRARY_PATH/LIBDIR/
--
AngryBob Systems Consultant - http://www.trellisinc.com
You've never eaten a packing peanut?
--Nick Black
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Display
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 15:48:46 +0100
> > Please note that it refers to the manual.
> > Get the numbers from that manual, not from the backplane of your
monitor.
> > Otherwise, look it up at the XFree86 monitor database.
> >
On my system there's a file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/doc/Monitors
(Your monitor does not appear to be in there though)
Check www.xfree86.org and follow links until you find a database.
Check the website of your monitor's manufacturer.
go to www.google.com and try to find info about your monitor.
go to the shop where you bought it, and ask them for the information.
It's all up to you now.
Eric
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From: Angry Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NIC card problems with MDK 7.2
Date: 14 Mar 2001 14:54:17 GMT
What would you like to read? [[EMAIL PROTECTED] or ?*]
this is a Trent Engler scroll! it says:
> I have tried both a Linksys Etherfast 10/100 card and a D-Link DFE530TX+
> card. Neither one are automatically recognized on install. With respect to
> the D-Link card, I've read that the TX+ model uses the Realtek 8139 driver
> (and not the Via Rhine driver used by the TX model) however during install
> both of the Realtek modules (8129 & 8139) failed.
IIRC, there was a bit of a driver mix-up in the boxed version, the
download version is always better.
either way, there are two 8139 drivers out there. One is written by
donald becker, the other by Jeff Garzik. Seeing as he's my roomate I'm
probably a bit biased, but I'd make sure that you're using the garzik
driver....
http://sourceforge.net/projects/gkernel
--
AngryBob Systems Consultant - http://www.trellisinc.com
I am no longer being silly!
-Josh Litherland
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From: Derek Viljoen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: boot's fsck skips / -- severe problems
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 09:27:21 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This is not NT. You don't need to do this. Just run fsck while it's up
and if it reports any problems, THEN do a reboot.
You can even have cron run it and email you the results if you like.
But *nix OS's don't need (and some would argue, shouldn't) be rebooted
that often. And the main reasons are 1) it doesn't need to be, and 2)
exactly the experience you're citing.
Seetamraju Uday Bhaskar Sarma wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a file server that has three partitions.
> For safety's sake, I run a 'shutdown -F' via crontab every month
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