Linux-Setup Digest #872, Volume #20              Tue, 20 Mar 01 11:13:09 EST

Contents:
  Re: login takes a while (Donald)
  Re: LInux Route and Win NT DHCP ?  Pls help !!! ("Dave Addison")
  lilo and 1024 cylinders (Peter Fiers)
  Re: Dual booting (The_saint)
  Re: Dual booting (The_saint)
  Re: Help for "make bzImage" of 2.4.2 kernel? ("ne...")
  Linux 2.x + Dell PowerEdge 2450: How to compile in percraid/aacraid (Frederic Faure)
  Using RAID with Redhat and similar (bill davidsen)
  Re: lilo and 1024 cylinders ("Eric")
  Ok, here is the problem. ("Allen")
  pcmcia initialization befor eth0 ("William Bilancio")
  Re: Ok, here is the problem. ("C. L. Lewis")
  Re: Why people are doing that? (Edward Coates)
  Re: Add one more hard disk to Linux ? ("J. E. Garrott Sr")
  Linux RedHat 6.2 on Dell Latitude C600 ("Kristian Wahlgren")
  Re: pcmcia initialization befor eth0 (Stan McCann)
  Re: Ok, here is the problem. (John D. Bruner)
  Re: Help: Howto setup dialin server (Dustin Puryear)
  Maximum partition size/SCSI drive size ("STP")
  Re: CD-ROM and harddisk fighting over DMA (M. Buchenrieder)
  MIDI keyboard and laptop ("Juan Olmedilla")

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From: Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: login takes a while
Date: 20 Mar 2001 08:39:15 -0500

Les Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I had this problem a couple of weeks ago.  Many people suggested lots of
: different things it might be.  I found that my reverse DNS settings were
: incorrect, which I promptly fixed and hey presto everything was slick again :)

: L

: Steve wrote:

:> Hello,
:> after having some problems with login I recompiled the shadow package
:> (latest release). Now I can login (before I could only get through xdm) but
:> login takes quite a long time before I get the propmt (1 minute more or
:> less). Why?

As someone mentioned DNS is often a cause of this kind of problem.
Usually this kind of lag indicates something is having to wait to
time out before proceeding.  In my case I had a problem with DHCP
when bringing up the network on boot.  I'm not sure what distrobution
you are running but you should be able to watch the log messages on
the screen at boot time and observe where it is hanging up.  Then
look there for something that might be doing a network access or
other similar operation that will eventually time out.

-Donald

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From: "Dave Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: LInux Route and Win NT DHCP ?  Pls help !!!
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:37:16 -0000

Easy answer is to configure the RedHat box to provide DHCP for the
192.168.0.0 subnet. Fastest way to do this is use linuxconf
As NT is on a different subnet the DHCP request from the 98 box won't be
relevant
to the DHCP server on the NT box

Norbi44 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:kzBt6.86971$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi !
>
> I'm doing a project for School and I have to setup 3 computers. One with
> WinNT 4.0 , One with Win98, and one with Linux Redhat 6.2
>
> Redhat is my Route and WinNT is my DNS and DHCP and FTP and So on Server.
>
snipped



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From: Peter Fiers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: lilo and 1024 cylinders
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:18:23 +0100

Isn't it true that lilo is now able to boot even if /boot is over
cylinder 1024? At least that is what I heard about suse 7.1 which I now
try to install.
Thanks for help.
Peter


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From: The_saint <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dual booting
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 21:55:51 +0800

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> (Incidentally, many Windows compression utilities know how to handle
> .tgz and .tar.gz files.)

That isn't necessary, I can do it within Xwindows or linux shell (as much 
as my knowledge can afford, about linuxOS)

> > Furthermore what the Newsgroups are for ? :-))
> 
> Answering short questions. Whether you know it or not, your question
> was vague enough that a complete answer would be too large
> 
I reconize that you're right here. I'll correct my behavior.
But as far as I asked then I got the answer here. When reading FAQ/HOW-
TO's might be time-spending and confusing because there're too many 
details for options that aren't concerning the scope of the search.

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From: The_saint <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dual booting
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 21:55:28 +0800

In article <992qgl$fns$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
says...
> earlier in this thread this WILL NOT WORK under WinME :-( (no config.sys
> file)
> 
> Does anyone have an alternative which allows use of LOADLIN or something
> similar? So not LILO or GRUB or other MBR bashers
> 
Probably we sould patch winME to allows us to get into its M$dos shell at 
the boot time.
I got an adress (http://www.geocities.com/mfd4life_2000/), but I haven't 
been there. I'm planning to get there later to find out what can I do with 
my winME.

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From: "ne..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help for "make bzImage" of 2.4.2 kernel?
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:05:36 GMT

On Mar 20, 2001 at 01:42, OrangeDino eloquently wrote:

>I have compiled and running my redhat 6.x linux box (it's original 6.0
>with something upgrade to 6.1 and some to 6.2) with 2.4.2 kernel.
>After someday, I re-compile the kernel to include some function but in
>"make bzImage" the following error came:
>
>gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -o
>scripts/split-include scripts/split-include.c
>In file included from /usr/include/errno.h:36,
>from scripts/split-include.c:26:
>/usr/include/bits/errno.h:25: linux/errno.h: No such file or directory
>make: *** [scripts/split-include] Error 1
>
>even I re-compile with the kernel configuration of the one I am running!
>Can anyone give me some hints?
>Thanks for your concern!
Read the line above the error line. It tells you what the
specific problem is. There is no linux/errno.h file. On
my system this file is on the dev86 rpm and the linux
source code.

-- 
Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org)
"His great aim was to escape from civilization, and, as soon as he had
money, he went to Southern California."
  8:59am  up 3 days,  9:59,  9 users,  load average: 0.03, 0.03, 0.00


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frederic Faure)
Subject: Linux 2.x + Dell PowerEdge 2450: How to compile in percraid/aacraid
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:27:06 GMT

Hi,

I'd like to compile either a Linux 2.2.x or 2.4 on that Dell PowerEdge
2450 with a Percraid RAID1. Problem is, how to I compile in the
percraid.o module provided by Dell, and recompile a kernel?

Thx
FF.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bill davidsen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Using RAID with Redhat and similar
Date: 20 Mar 2001 14:30:26 GMT

In the Redhat installer, there is a feature to defaine a RAID partition.
All well and good, but how do you define a couple of partions and then
*use* them in the install.

I have a system with two small drives. With Slackware I can (pretty
manually) divide the drives as follows:

             SWAP    RAID-0 /
  /dev/hda: |====|------------------------|
                         ^
                         | striped
                         v
  /dev/hdb: |----|------------------------|
            /boot   RAID-0 /

Now neither drive has enough space for even a small install, I've looked
at putting /var and/or /usr on one and / on the other, etc. I just can't
seem to find the trick to get the Redhat install to configure and
activate the striped filesystem over the two drives.

I assume this is possible, no one would put in half an option to define
a RAID partition which can't be used after you define it (would they?),
so I assume I'm missing something.

-- 
  bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  CTO, TMR Associates, Inc
At LinuxExpo Sun was showing Linux applications running on Solaris.
They don't get it, the arrow points the other way. There's a reason why
there's no SolarisExpo, Solaris is a tool; Linux is a philosophy, a
religion, a way of life, and only incidentally an operating system.

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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lilo and 1024 cylinders
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:33:58 +0100

> Isn't it true that lilo is now able to boot even if /boot is over
> cylinder 1024? At least that is what I heard about suse 7.1 which I now
> try to install.

IIRC since version 21.4.3 this is true.
Whether it will work also depends on your BIOS, which must support
extended interrupt 13 calls.
(Probably only old machines will not have support for this)

Eric



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From: "Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Ok, here is the problem.
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:33:08 -0500

To all the people who have responded to
my "Why people are doing that?" question:


First of all, I would like to thank you for
all the interesting opinions, and especially
those who have expressed them in an unbiased
way. After all, I just want to know how the
lives of people are like on the other side
of the wall, how do they feel about that.


Second, since so many helpful linux people
here says normally it only takes 20 to 30
minutes to get a device to work, now I have
a problem to show to all of you. I have a
Netgear 311 ethernet card installed on one
of my PCI slots and it works fine under
windows. However, under RH 7.0, it refuses
to work. On my screen, it says "delaying
initializing eth0". After I get the driver
from Netgear site and installed it, now
linux says "msmod fails. Hint: it can be
caused by irq ...". After I recompile the
kernel with new driver, the same message
still show up on the screen. Furthermore,
during loading up, the lpd will also
say "unable to find host localhose",
although I have put that info in through
netcfg and linuxconf. And I am using Road
running cable service.

Any suggestion will be greatly appreciate
and I will be glad to see this problem
can be solved without much twisting.

Allen




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From: "William Bilancio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: pcmcia initialization befor eth0
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:21:20 -0500

I have installed Red Hat 6.2 on a Compaq LTE5000 laptop.  My question is how
do I get the PCMCIA script to run before the eth0 card is initialized since
it's a pcmcia 3com card.  When I set the network card up bootup hangs at
eth0.

William Bilancio



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From: "C. L. Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ok, here is the problem.
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:54:56 -0600

Allen wrote:

> Netgear 311 ethernet card installed on one
> of my PCI slots and it works fine under
> windows. However, under RH 7.0, it refuses
> to work. On my screen, it says "delaying
> initializing eth0". 

Dunno. On my system, regardless how well I've got all my net
configuration done and all my ip addresses and such shit taken care of,
if I disable networking in system startup by way of ntsysv or linuxconf
or any other means, my system tells me it's delaying initializing eth0,
and also not having loopback up and running might cause you to not be
able to find localhost. 

Charlie


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From: Edward Coates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why people are doing that?
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:09:43 -0600

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Allen,

The only experience I can speak of is personal experience, but the
answers will vary from different people.  For me, it's a personal
challenge and a learning experience.  My first multitasking OS was OS/2
Warp 3.0.  I was currently running a BBS system, and I needed something
to be able to run multiple connections, and Win95 wasn't out yet for
me.  I've always been a little bit of a renegade too.  I was running an
Amiga while most of my friends were running PCs.  When Win95 did finally
come out, I wasn't interested one little bit.  I have my biases against
Microsoft, but that's all in another email.  :)  I turned to Linux after
I got a job as an assistant sysadmin.  I figured that it would help me
in the long run, and I was right.  I started out with Slackware 3.0 I
think which was an ANSI driven install menu, and after many attempts at
installation, I had a working system and a sense of accomplishment, and
it's taken off from there.  I now have a redhat machine, and if you
want, you'll never have to look at a Makefile since you can just install
the packages and go.

I like learning with Linux because I can tinker at home and apply what
I've learned in my job.  I'm now a Solaris Administrator working for a
consulting company in Dallas, and Linux has helped me get here.

I will admit that I have a Windows 2000 machine at home.  This machine
is more for my wife and kids because the entertainment software isn't
there for Linux for them, and some of the applications that I use don't
have a Linux counterpart yet, but my firewall/mail/www/ftp/ssh server to
the internet is pure Linux, and I wouldn't have it any other way.

These are my reasons, and mine alone, maybe we'll here some others
here.  I for one would like to hear why others like Linux.  I hope that
I've answered your questions, if not, drop me a line.

Ed



Allen wrote:
> 
> I can't really understand why people want to
> spend 5 or 10 hours trying to get a device
> working on linux since there is no help whatsoever
> for it, while it only takes half an hour to get it
> working on Windows? Isn't that a great waste of
> personal life as well as social resources? Does it
> really make sense for computer industry to go back
> to squre one and try to recreate a wheel which we
> already have now? Do people really believe that
> an OS which requires all of its users to know how
> to use makefile can go that far? After all, even
> primitive DOS 1.0 doesn't require me to graduate
> with a CS degree first before I start using it?
> If a resource requires so much background knowledge
> before anyone can really use it, then what's the
> difference does it make compares to not having the
> resource at all?
> 
> Can someone give some reasonable and inspirational
> answers for the above questions?
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From: "J. E. Garrott Sr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Add one more hard disk to Linux ?
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 07:41:06 -0800

Eric Chow wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I added one more hard disk to the Linux. I have made the partition and
> formatted it into Linux File System Type.
> 
> The problem is that, how can I like the old hard disk to mount automatically
> whe startup.
> 
> If I want the mount point to be /export, how to do that ?
> 
> Please teach me.
> 
> Best regards,
> Eric

man fstab

Briefly, create /export, then add a line to your
current fstab, for example:

/dev/hdb1   /export        ext2 defaults      1 1

Change the partition to the actual one you are
using.  This will cause the disk to be mounted
on bootup and fscked at regular intervals.


John

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From: "Kristian Wahlgren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Linux RedHat 6.2 on Dell Latitude C600
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 16:32:15 +0100

Hi,

I have installed Linux RedHat 6.2 on my Dell Latitude C600 (with a Rage
Mobility 128 AGP 2X video card).

However, I can't get the Xwindows settings right. I have run Xconfigurate
and tried all kinds of settings, but nothing works. Is there no driver that
works with my video card?

Thanks for any help!

/Kristian Wahlgren
Stockholm, Sweden



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From: Stan McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: pcmcia initialization befor eth0
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:18:03 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

William Bilancio wrote:
> 
> I have installed Red Hat 6.2 on a Compaq LTE5000 laptop.  My question is how
> do I get the PCMCIA script to run before the eth0 card is initialized since
> it's a pcmcia 3com card.  When I set the network card up bootup hangs at
> eth0.
> 
> William Bilancio

I just had this problem with Suse 7.1 and an old ProStar 6200 with a
Linksys NIC.  All I had to do to straighten it out was to remove the
card and the settings for the card.  Then I replaced the card without
the settings and booted up so that cardmgr recognized the card.  Set up
eth0 again and at least Suse's YAST put the card setup back after
cardmgr is started.

HTH
Stan McCann

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John D. Bruner)
Subject: Re: Ok, here is the problem.
Date: 20 Mar 2001 09:26:36 -0600

Does your Ethernet card reside behind a PCI-PCI bridge?  If so, the
kernel may not be computing the IRQ (accounting for the swizzling of
assignments that occurs in the bridge).  You can check the interrupt
number using "lspci -vv".

I initially had this problem before upgrading to the 2.4 kernel.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dustin Puryear)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,alt.linux
Subject: Re: Help: Howto setup dialin server
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:40:39 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, 20 Mar 2001 04:05:07 GMT, David. E. Goble <goble@gtech> wrote:
>Hi All;
>
>Iam still getting the error "could not dertermine local ip"
>
>Iam trying to get get a remote computer to dialin and connect to my
>server.

Where is the configuration for the remote peer? 

Regards, Dustin

-- 
Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://members.telocity.com/~dpuryear
Integrate Linux Solutions into Your Windows Network
- http://www.prima-tech.com/integrate-linux


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From: "STP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Maximum partition size/SCSI drive size
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 16:05:20 +0100

Hi,

I'm trying to configure a server with mandrake 7.2.
I got a RAID 5 disk array composed by 6 disks (6*34Gb = 204Gb) .
This disk array is accessible from 2 logical drive of 70Gb and 110Gb.

When I run diskdrake, I configure the following partitions:

Disk0-70Gb
=============
/mnt/win    2Gb
/               500Mb
swap        2Gb
/usr          4Gb
/var          5Gb
/home       24Gb
/u01         2Gb
/trf           31Gb

Disk1-110Gb
==============
/u02        110Gb

After 2 hours, diskdrake fails when formatting partitions (unable to read
partition table)

IDE drives seems to be limited by 33Gb due to 65535 cylinder limit
(Large-Disk-HOWTO)
Is anyone can told me the maximum partition size allow by linux (mandrake
standard kernel) and if SCSI drives are limited like IDE drives?

Thanks for your help,
Stephane.






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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: CD-ROM and harddisk fighting over DMA
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 12:23:31 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wouter Verhelst) writes:

>In article <994grp$92f$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>       "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Search the NG's old posts at deja.com.

>"old" as in "about a year old", or as in "very old"? ;-)

Meaningless, as Deja's archive has been sold to google.com.
Try http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search (IIRC) .


[...]

>hda: timeout waiting for DMA
>ide_dmaproc: chipset supported ide_dma_timeout func only: 14
>hda: irq timeout: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }

[...]


My bet: You're using a broken IDE chipset. Is that an aging motherboard
from the late 90's ?

Michael
-- 
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          Lumber Cartel Unit #456 (TINLC) & Official Netscum
    Note: If you want me to send you email, don't munge your address.

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From: "Juan Olmedilla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: MIDI keyboard and laptop
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:17:41 GMT

    I've got a Compaq Armada M700 with RedHat 7.0.
    What do I need to do to support a midi serial interface? Is the OSS midi
serial driver included in the kernel?
    Is there any good software that I can use to play my MIDI keyboard
through the serial interface?
    Thanx,

    Juan



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