Linux-Setup Digest #874, Volume #20              Tue, 20 Mar 01 16:13:16 EST

Contents:
  Re: beginner: vfat mount problem after kernel 2.4.2 compilation (Melotte)
  To Metro-X or Not, that is the question. (Charles Dombek)
  Is lo an actual device? NICs not recognized ("Allan Jones, ComUnity Systems")
  Re: CD-ROM and harddisk fighting over DMA (Wouter Verhelst)
  Re: Is lo an actual device? NICs not recognized ("Davide Bianchi")
  Re: Red Hat 7.0 jumpy cursor in Xfree 4 (Genesis)
  Re: Red Hat 7.0 jumpy cursor in Xfree 4 (Genesis)
  Re: Is lo an actual device? NICs not recognized (Michael Heiming)
  Monitor Resolution & other Windows Equivilent Q's ("Allan Jones, ComUnity Systems")
  Re: PPPoE in SuSE 7.1 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Monitor Resolution & other Windows Equivilent Q's ("Davide Bianchi")
  win2k + linux: how  to boot from win2k os loader (daniel)
  Re: A Better Web Browser...PLEASE! ("DSTP")
  Apache+PHP+ODBC+ORACLE ("Xero")
  Strange lilo problem (Marcin Romaszewicz)
  mem and swap problem ("Sharkster")
  hosts.lpd use for print server (Lew Pitcher)
  Re: Why people are doing that? (Darin Johnson)
  cannot start mysqld ("Jon J. Morin")
  Re: Strange lilo problem (Marcin Romaszewicz)
  Re: Monitor Resolution & other Windows Equivilent Q's (Frederic)
  Re: 3com NIC problem ("Rene")

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From: Melotte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: beginner: vfat mount problem after kernel 2.4.2 compilation
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:28:25 GMT

when I do a mount like this:
mount /mnt/floppy or mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy  I get

mount: /dev/fd0 has wrong major or minor number

The led for the floppy drive blinks thus that means that he at least
accesses it. I think that for some reason vfat isn't supported
correctly.
when I do cat /proc/filesystems, I see some filesystems but not vfat and
msdos, do you know if I should see these filesystem types here?

Same error when I try to mount a windows partition.

The harddisk is an ATA66 harddisk and I have upgraded to the new kernel
2.4.2 because it supports my HPT366 controller on my mainboard.
With the older kernel I was able to mount a windows floppy
disk/partition but I could only boot my system from harddisk with the
following parameters in /etc/lilo:

append="ide2=0xa400, 0xa800 ide3=0xb000, 0xb400" which uses some low
performance compatibility mode

Hope this is some more info,

tnx
Kris


Eric wrote:

> how exactly does it fail?
> what error messages do you get?
>
> Eric


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From: Charles Dombek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: To Metro-X or Not, that is the question.
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:29:49 -0600

Hi all!
I was wondering if anyone can give me information on the Metro-X
product (version 4.3.4), particularly on laptops (IBM Thinkpad 390X). I
picked up a copy at a local software outlet and was wondering if anyone
can recommend (or diss) the product as an X server replacement for the
XFree86 product? There is scant doc on using it with laptops.
Many thanks
Chuck Dombek




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From: "Allan Jones, ComUnity Systems" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Is lo an actual device? NICs not recognized
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:35:02 GMT

I am just setting up a firewall, which has the requirement for an

"internal interface"
"LAN interface"
"loopback interface."

I have two NIC's installed

Is the Loopback taken care of by an internal process? Is is it a physical
NIC? I am asking because I THINK it is, but after pulling out one, then both
my NIC cards "lo" still boots. Is my system malunctioning?

Also, in my experiments, I have put in THREE network cards, and my Red Hat
7.0 still won't acknowledge anything more than "lo" and "eth0."

When I go to LinuxConfig my setting won't hold. (reboot and they are not
there)





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wouter Verhelst)
Subject: Re: CD-ROM and harddisk fighting over DMA
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:47:31 GMT

In article <9975of$fub$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

<snip>

>> At first sight, it looks very similar to the error I get, but a closer
>> look makes clear it's something else. So before I drown in google, did
>> you mean this option, or was it something else?
>>
> 
> This was the one I meant.
> It's indeed another message.

Hmmm. Guess I'll be sending in a bugreport then ;-)

-- 
wouter dot verhelst at advalvas in belgium

Real men don't take backups.
They put their source on a public FTP-server and let the world mirror it.
                                        -- Linus Torvalds

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From: "Davide Bianchi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is lo an actual device? NICs not recognized
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:52:14 -0800

"Allan Jones, ComUnity Systems" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:GhOt6.42038$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am just setting up a firewall, which has the requirement for an
> I have two NIC's installed
> Is the Loopback taken care of by an internal process?

Yes, it is created by the 'loopback device support' option in your kernel.

>Is my system malunctioning?

Absolutely no.

> Also, in my experiments, I have put in THREE network cards, and my Red Hat
> 7.0 still won't acknowledge anything more than "lo" and "eth0."

If you are not configured the network cards or the driver for them are not
there,
you don't see the special files. Try using ifconfig to configure the cards.

Davide




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Subject: Re: Red Hat 7.0 jumpy cursor in Xfree 4
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Genesis)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:55:28 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry) wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 

>On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 04:51:26 GMT, Genesis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote: 
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Craig Kelley) wrote in 
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Genesis) writes:
>>>
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Craig Kelley) wrote in 
>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>> >
>>>> >Does it work on the console with gpm?
>>>> >
>>>> Yes.
>>>> 
>>>> >Does it still do that if you kill gpm before starting X11?
>>>> >
>>>> Yes.
>>>
>>>Strange.  Run mouseconfig as the root user and try a different mouse.
>>>
>>
>>Tried both, neither worked.
>>Could X be configured wrong, low sample rate maybe?
>>
>>-Genesis
>
>I don't use graphical configuration tools whatsoever for things like
>this. Did you set the X stuff up using Xconfigurator?  I would try using
>xf86config and get a basic XF86Config-4 file and start with that.  I
>recently went from debian stable to testing with x4.0.2.  I have mouse
>issues with gpm running on the box when X starts.  I also installed the
>latest nvidia drivers and the kernel module.
>
>Try starting with the basic text configuration tool and see what
>happens. I have had fair luck with Xconfigurator and sometimes bad luck.
> I usually can hack away at a self-built XF86Config file and get it
>working quicker than running Xconfigurator 9000 times and trying it that
>way... 
>

Okay, I will try that,  Thanks,
        Genesis

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Subject: Re: Red Hat 7.0 jumpy cursor in Xfree 4
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Genesis)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:58:14 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry) wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 

>On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 04:51:26 GMT, Genesis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote: 
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Craig Kelley) wrote in 
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Genesis) writes:
>>>
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Craig Kelley) wrote in 
>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>> >
>>>> >Does it work on the console with gpm?
>>>> >
>>>> Yes.
>>>> 
>>>> >Does it still do that if you kill gpm before starting X11?
>>>> >
>>>> Yes.
>>>
>>>Strange.  Run mouseconfig as the root user and try a different mouse.
>>>
>>
>>Tried both, neither worked.
>>Could X be configured wrong, low sample rate maybe?
>>
>>-Genesis
>
>I don't use graphical configuration tools whatsoever for things like
>this. Did you set the X stuff up using Xconfigurator?  I would try using
>xf86config and get a basic XF86Config-4 file and start with that.  I
>recently went from debian stable to testing with x4.0.2.  I have mouse
>issues with gpm running on the box when X starts.  I also installed the
>latest nvidia drivers and the kernel module.
>
>Try starting with the basic text configuration tool and see what
>happens. I have had fair luck with Xconfigurator and sometimes bad luck.
> I usually can hack away at a self-built XF86Config file and get it
>working quicker than running Xconfigurator 9000 times and trying it that
>way... 
>

Oops, yes I used both Configurator and XF86Config.

-Genesis

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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 21:05:25 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is lo an actual device? NICs not recognized

"Allan Jones, ComUnity Systems" wrote:
> 
> I am just setting up a firewall, which has the requirement for an
> 
> "internal interface"
> "LAN interface"
> "loopback interface."
> 
> I have two NIC's installed
> 
> Is the Loopback taken care of by an internal process? Is is it a physical
> NIC? I am asking because I THINK it is, but after pulling out one, then both
> my NIC cards "lo" still boots. Is my system malunctioning?

No, looks as if your system would work 100%.

Loopback is not a physical device nor a process, it's a virtual device the kernel
provides us. I.e.. you can run apache on a linux desktop box and connect it with
the
browser of your choice on the same box with http://localhost/

Never remove lO, as your system needs it to work probably.

Michael Heiming

> 
> Also, in my experiments, I have put in THREE network cards, and my Red Hat
> 7.0 still won't acknowledge anything more than "lo" and "eth0."
> 
> When I go to LinuxConfig my setting won't hold. (reboot and they are not
> there)

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From: "Allan Jones, ComUnity Systems" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Monitor Resolution & other Windows Equivilent Q's
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:58:04 GMT

I am running Red Hat 7.0 on an AMD 6/300 box with an old-ish monitor

When I go to work with Control Panel or LinuxConfig the screen stretches
beyond my monitor's ability to access it! (this prevents me from clicking
things like "ok" at the bottom of the screens, etc.)

I have plugged in a second monitor and find the same thing.

Where can I go to adjust the monitor resolution!!!! (both monitors are SVGA
capable)


Also - I can't seem to find any FAQ or HOW-TOs on "Windows Equivilent
commnads"

things like:

"winipcfg" for windows 9X or ipconfig for NT/2K
disk space usage in Linux?



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PPPoE in SuSE 7.1
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:08:43 +0000

On Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:44:10 +0800, "Chong, Cheung-Yu"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>My problem is: When I do the same thing in SuSE 7.1, it doesn't work! 
>Is there anyone face this problem before?  Is there any tricks in
>setting up rp-pppoe in SuSE 7.1

Have you tried;
http://sdb.suse.de/sdb/de/html//hoe_adsl_pppoe.html ?

The above doesn't look too clear on my newsreader because it's (automatically)
underlined, so for the avoidance of doubt the html file is
hoe_adsl_pppoe.html.

Chris Ward.

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From: "Davide Bianchi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Monitor Resolution & other Windows Equivilent Q's
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:13:59 -0800

"Allan Jones, ComUnity Systems" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:gDOt6.42043$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> When I go to work with Control Panel or LinuxConfig the screen stretches
> beyond my monitor's ability to access it! (this prevents me from clicking
> things like "ok" at the bottom of the screens, etc.)

That means that the resolution of the video is lower than the 'virtual'
screen.
Try use Xconfigurator or something like that, if this does not work, read
the
XFree86-HowTo and tinker directly with the XF86Config file (save the old
one before)...

> Where can I go to adjust the monitor resolution!!!! (both monitors are
SVGA
> capable)

Usually, if you press CTRL/ALT/+ or CTRL/ALT/- the resolutions is
increased/decreased (if your monitor/graphic card is able to...)

> Also - I can't seem to find any FAQ or HOW-TOs on "Windows Equivilent
> commnads"
> things like:
> "winipcfg" for windows 9X or ipconfig for NT/2K

use /sbin/ifconfig - type man ifconfig for more info

> disk space usage in Linux?

use du - man du for more info.

Davide




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From: daniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: win2k + linux: how  to boot from win2k os loader
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:30:09 -0000

I successfully installed redhat 7.0 on a system which had win2k. I didn't 
get the option of choosing where to install LILO. The installation was ok 
and I can now dual boot from LILO. I want to restore control to the WIN2k 
OS loader. How do I do that? I am afraid that if I just unistall LILO I 
will make the whole system unbootable.

--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/

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From: "DSTP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: A Better Web Browser...PLEASE!
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:40:56 -0500

If you don't ming having ads on the top bar, try out Opera: www.opera.com


"Steve Withers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> If anything is going to drive me back to Windowss it is *&%^$ Netscape.
>
> I have both V6.0 and v4.75 installed on my RH Linux 7.0 system (kernel
> 2.4.1) and they are both....in a word...SHIT.
>
> I have "kill-9" permanently in my command line buffer.....Netscape craps
> out usually within 10-15 minutes of active use. What happens MOST often
> with Netscape 6.0 is that links cease to be active. Nothing reacts to a
> mouse click. It may aswell have crashed....and when I do a PS-A...I see
> about 20 Java VMs all stacked up. Eh?
>
> I need Java support.......so do I have any options? Opera? Konqueror?
> Haven't tried either recently....tried Opera like 3 years ago.....
>
> MS Explorer is starting to look good to me..... :-(
>
> --
>  Regards,
>
>  Steve Withers
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Registered Linux user #24688
>  http://counter.li.org
>
>  "First, they ignore you. Then they
>  laugh at you. Then they fight you.
>  Then you win." Mahatma Ghandi



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From: "Xero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Apache+PHP+ODBC+ORACLE
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:43:06 GMT

Hi people,

i would know if someone had never used under Linux this configuration:

Apache 1.3.12 + PHP4 pages + ODBC to Oracle8i

i tried it, and something work correctly. But there are problem:

1) for ODBC i use openlinks, but i ask you if does it exist some free
solution !!!  :(((

2) how to recompile correctly libphp4.so as apache dynamic module ?

is someone have  problem i can tell him my solution... Have you ever fall in
this problem...

please help me... i'm not in panic ARRRRRGHHHHHH...

help me and i'll promise a good pizza :)))

see you soon :)

Claude from Italy



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From: Marcin Romaszewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Strange lilo problem
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 12:52:04 -0800

Hi All, 

I'm having a problem installing lilo in the bootsector of my boot drive,
and I was wondering if anyone's seen a problem like this before. The
error I get is: 

Device 0x0800: Invalid partition table, 1st entry
  3D address:     1/1/0 (32)
  Linear address: 32/1/0 (63)


What does this mean? 

These are my hard drives:
Disk /dev/sda: 64 heads, 32 sectors, 35020 cylinders (windows, boot
disk)
Disk /dev/sdb: 64 heads, 32 sectors, 8748 cylinders (linux)
Disk /dev/sdc: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 1115 cylinders (old windows disk)

sdc used to be sda, and lilo installed perfectly fine then. I needed a
larger
windows drive, so I got a new one, set it up to be sda. I used windoze
fdisk to create a fat32 partition and left a piece of the drive empty
for linux stuff. If I run linux fdisk on sda, I get warnings that
partitions do not end on cylinder boundaries, could this be confusing
lilo?

Since these are scsi drives, I specified the bios mappings in the
lilo.conf file:

disk=/dev/sda 
   bios=0x80
disk=/dev/sdb 
   bios=0x81
disk=/dev/sdc 
   bios=0x82


Thanks in advance for any help, and please attach a reply by email as
well.

-- Marcin

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From: "Sharkster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,linux.misc,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc,linux.support.commercial,redhat.config,redhat.general
Subject: mem and swap problem
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:27:07 -0600

Im running RH 7 on a PII 300 with 256 meg ram. The system is only
recognizing 64 meg and has already adjusted the swap accordingly.
I have already edited the lilo.conf with the " append="mem=256M". Ive run
the LILO and rebooted. The system is still only recognizing 64 meg.
Did I miss something in there and what was it. How can I adjust my swap to
match the 256m.

Sharkster
61517946




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: hosts.lpd use for print server
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:52:26 GMT

I've got Slackware 7.0 installed on a LAN, and am playing with lpd
'remote print' support. I've got a local printer that I want to be
enabled for external access via RFC1179 LPD Protocol. I want all hosts
within our domain to be able to print to this printer and it appears
that I have to set up the /etc/hosts.lpd file for this.

How do I list hosts in /etc/hosts.lpd such that my entire domain can
print to this printer? Does it matter that some of the hosts that I
want to give access to do not have domainnames, just IP addresses?
What would the format of the entries in /etc/hosts.lpd be?

Lew Pitcher
Information Technology Consultant
Toronto Dominion Bank Financial Group

([EMAIL PROTECTED])


(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)

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Subject: Re: Why people are doing that?
From: Darin Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:53:26 GMT

"Thumper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Just remember that Jobs stole it first from Xerox's PARC facility...:)

It was "given" to Apple.  The general PARC employees weren't happy at
all about the PARC executives giving it away though.

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From: "Jon J. Morin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: cannot start mysqld
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:56:29 GMT

Hi everyone.  I am having a problem starting the mysql daemon.  I am using
SuSE 7.1.  I use the startup script as follows and get the following
message:

linux: /usr/bin # safe_mysqld --user=mysql &
[1] 7000
linux: /usr/bin # starting mysqld daemon with databases from /var/lib/mysql
100320 15:31:10 mysqld ended
[1]+ Done            safe_mysqld --user=mysql
linux: /usr/bin #

This looks to me that the server starts and stops immediately.  Can anyone
help me with this?

Jon J. Morin




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From: Marcin Romaszewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Strange lilo problem
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:01:11 -0800

Forgot to list some version numbers

lilo 21.7
kernel 2.2.16
redhat 6.2

-- Marcin

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From: Frederic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Monitor Resolution & other Windows Equivilent Q's
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 21:02:51 GMT


You can configure your resolution,videocard, and monitor by typing
Xconfigurator as root

Regarding your other question, I hate to blow your bubble but there is no such
thing as similiar commands in windows and linux. Buy a Linux startup book and
take it from there. If you want to see how much diskspace you, type
df -h
or type man df at the prompt.

Hope this helps,

Frederic

"Allan Jones, ComUnity Systems" wrote:

> I am running Red Hat 7.0 on an AMD 6/300 box with an old-ish monitor
>
> When I go to work with Control Panel or LinuxConfig the screen stretches
> beyond my monitor's ability to access it! (this prevents me from clicking
> things like "ok" at the bottom of the screens, etc.)
>
> I have plugged in a second monitor and find the same thing.
>
> Where can I go to adjust the monitor resolution!!!! (both monitors are SVGA
> capable)
>
> Also - I can't seem to find any FAQ or HOW-TOs on "Windows Equivilent
> commnads"
>
> things like:
>
> "winipcfg" for windows 9X or ipconfig for NT/2K
> disk space usage in Linux?


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From: "Rene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 3com NIC problem
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 22:04:46 +0100

Herman,
It works. Thanks for helping.

"H.Bruijn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:39:48 +0100, Rene allegedly wrote:
> >And the route command gives after 3 MINUTES the output:
> >
> >Kernel IP routing table
> >Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use
> >Iface
>
> It tries to do a reverse lookup for the 10.x.x.x ip-numbers and network.
> When that times  out, only then you get the output in numbers. Either
> create in-addr.arpa records for the 10.x.x.x range of ip-numbers on your
> local nameserver or do the following.
>
> add a line to /etc/networks with
> localnet 10.10.0.0
> internal 127.0.0.0
> and add names and ip's to /etc/hosts
> 10.10.10.1 default_gateway default_gateway.localnet
>
> Change the names to suit you.
> --
> If a trainstation is the place where trains stop, what is a workstation?
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Herman Bruijn                            mail:          [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> The Netherlands                       website:   http://hermanbruijn.com



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