Linux-Setup Digest #910, Volume #20 Sun, 25 Mar 01 21:13:09 EST
Contents:
internal modem on debian machine ("carlos arenas")
Re: xvidtune (Mladen Gavrilovic)
Win2k, partitioning, and LILO on Sony Z600TEK ("bored with TV")
Re: Suse vs RH/Mandrake ? (or what's so great about 7.2) (Tim Hanson)
Re: LILO vs. loadlin (John in SD)
Re: system clock (dick)
Setup of a Python tape drive in a Dell 2450 poweredge ("Jean-Pierre Dub�")
Background processes after logout ("Johnny A. Solbu")
Re: Copying /etc/passwd from one machine to another (Bill Unruh)
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From: "carlos arenas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: internal modem on debian machine
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 18:10:32 -0500
I am fairly new to Linux, and am having trouble setting up my modem.
I have a Dell desktop, which includes a US Robotics (3Com) PCI modem.
According to Windows Control Panel, it is on COM5.
However, when I boot my machine on Linux (Debian 2.2r0), it doesn't
recognize the modem. Not that I get any error messages--I simply see eth0
and lo when I run ifconfig. BTW, my computer also has a 3Com NIC (hence
eth0).
Within dmseg output, there is a line that reads:
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A.
however, i see no "ttyS00" file under the /dev directory.
In trying to use my modem, I ran the command "route del default" and
received this message:
SIOCDELRT: No such process.
Can someone please lead me in the right direction? I hope I have included
enough (but not too much) information.
Thanks in advance.
carlos.
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From: Mladen Gavrilovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: xvidtune
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 23:13:02 GMT
I'm not sure which XFree86 Debian 2.2 uses, but if it is version 4.X,
then you should edit XF86Config-4 instead of XF86Config when following
the instructions in the other replies.
Mladen
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From: "bored with TV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Win2k, partitioning, and LILO on Sony Z600TEK
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 01:27:15 +0200
Reply-To: "bored with TV" <moihahahaha>
Last time I ask this before doing it, I swear... =}
I have a new Sony Z600TEK laptop with a 20GB drive, split when bought with a
12GB FAT32 primary, an 8MB extended, and the rest a logical 7GB FAT32
partition.
The puppy is running Win2k on the first partition which it came with and I
need to make it dual boot Linux and Win2k. I do not want to use the Win2k
boot loader. For declarative purposes, I've installed Linux on dual booting
Win98 laptops before but someone made me nervous about doing it on Win2k...
I would prefer to simply delete the 7 GB FAT32 logical (think
PartitionMagic) and then do a straight forward install of either RH7 or the
new SuSe 7.1 (jonezing for the 2.4 kernal) straight from CD.
I would prefer to install LILO to the MBR as I trust it more than the Win2k
boot loader, so basically this is a straight forward install and then LILO
would control booting of either Win2k or Linux.
Anyone see any problems with this? Has anyone actualyl done it this way. I
read the FAQ about dual booting and using the NT boot loader and it jsut
made me sweat with the idea of copying the boot.ini and stuff everytime I
change the LILO. I'm assuming this way is more straightforward.
Comments, help and opinions (especially experienced) appreciated,
Daryl
Paris, France
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 15:45:10 -0800
From: Tim Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Suse vs RH/Mandrake ? (or what's so great about 7.2)
GreyCloud wrote:
>
> Tim Hanson wrote:
> >
> > I am an enthusiastic SuSE user, although I make no money off SuSE. Add
> > salt to taste.
> >
> > peter wrote:
> > >
> > > I've heard great things about the new Suse distro,
> >
> > That is correct. It is quite an advance and will be hard to compete
> > against, especially for getting new users to try Linux. For me, as a
> > user since 5.1, it is just an upgrade, although this time I bought a DVD
> > player so the update went much faster. The books alone are worth the
> > price.
> >
> > > but I was told by
> > > someone that I should use the same distro that I use at work.
> >
> > There will be some differences and some similarities. Linus Torvalds
> > has said he uses Red Hat at work (Transmeta) and SuSE at home. I don't
> > know if that's still true or not.
> >
> > Generally, there will be a slight but not overpowering learning curve.
> > Both are rpm-type systems. SuSE uses one big /etc/rc.config file. SuSE
> > has gotten more KDE-centric over the last year, although GNOME is
> > up-to-date and available on the disk. For myself, old dog that I am, I
> > still use FVWM2, although I like and use a lot of the GNOME
> > applications.
> >
> > I have a copy of Debian on one of my computers, which was a little more
> > difficult.
> >
> > > At work
> > > we use Red Hat, at home I just setup Mandrake 7.1, but everyone says
> > > the new Suse distro is good and also Mandrake 7.2 is good.
> >
> > I think both are iterations of the 2.4 kernel.
> >
> > SuSE's advantage is raw bang for the buck and lately add ease of
> > installation for newbies. The Professional Edition has seven packed CDs
> > or one DVD (all supplied). Through YaST you can add and subtract
> > packages without worrying about dependencies and conflicts. For me that
> > has meant the ability to just leave the DVD in the drive permanently and
> > install things when needed. For someone with a modem connection, all
> > those packages locally will save a _lot_ of download time.
> >
> > > What are the differences of these distros and versions ?
> > >
> > > Is there a different file structure or something different in each
> > > distro that will mess up my learning curve ?
> >
> > I don't know about the other distros, but with SuSE you can get a
> > running system going now and worry about the learning curve later.
> >
> > >
> > > Is the new software in mandrake 7.2 (or Suse) all that ?
> > >
> > > Which is faster, I've got a few older machine I would like to install
> > > Linux on (P166/32 megs, etc) ?
> >
> > I don't think it matters that much. All three of these use mostly the
> > same stuff. I think Star Office is a lost cause. :-)
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> >
> > --
> > Show respect for age. Drink good Scotch for a change.
> >
> >
> Good scotch,... yes.
>
> I used to have Star Office 5.1 installed, but didn't like it.
> Sun has since taken over Star Office and it is now 5.2. I don't have it
> but I hear its a big improvement. And Sun offers it either as a free
> download or buy the CD. Suns' people are now in progress of
> implementing a better interface for it as i've been told. But I can't
> give any usability reports on it. Maybe someone else who has 5.2 can
> relate?
I use 5.2 on Linux and it isn't too bad, but I have 512mb of SDRAM which
guarantees I don't have to go to swap. With 32mb you'd do a lot of
waiting around. SuSE includes it in their distro.
Open Office is separating the apps, dropping some of the modules where
others (like GNOME) are doing the same thing better, etc.
--
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came back."
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From: John in SD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: LILO vs. loadlin
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 00:32:41 GMT
Why not use LILO as your boot manager?
suggested lilo.conf: (lilo 21.2 or later REQUIRED)
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boot=/dev/hda
prompt
timeout=50
lba32 <-- you WILL need this line; you have big disks
default=Win98 <-- use whichever default you like
disk=/dev/hdc <-- these two lines may, or may not, be needed
bios=0x81 <-- "
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=linux
root=/dev/hdc1
read-only
other=/dev/hda1
label=Win98
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I assume that your BIOS makes drive /dev/hdc1 available as 0x81.
--John
On Sat, 24 Mar 2001 23:45:50 +0200, "Taavi Hein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>#the questions are marked with '***' (three asterisks)
>#the other stuff is here only to make the message longer ;)
>
>My computer was/is running W98SE (oem), and I installed RH7 on top of it,
>conf. as follows:
>
>/dev/hda1 -- W98 -- fat32 -- 10GB
>/dev/hdb -- CDROM -- iso*
>/dev/hdc1 -- Linux -- ext2fs -- 20GB
>/dev/hdd5 -- file archive -- fat32 -- 2GB
>+swap
>
>When I started the install, I switched drives for BIOS to boot to Linux (on
>/dev/hda - the only option available - referred to as drive C: in BIOS) ,
>where I planned to install LILO(for more information look at the table
>below) and everything worked fine, until I tried LILO to boot W98, then it
>hanged, saying booting windows...
>
>The trouble seemed to be, that W98 would only boot as /dev/hda (primary
>master), so I switched the drives back. Now, not wanting to install LILO in
>/dev/hda (it being a windoze drive and all), I set up W98 to display boot
>menu with choices, which OS to boot - using loadlin.exe to boot Linux.
>Command to invoke Linux is as follows: "shell=c:\loadlin\loadlin.exe
>c:\loadlin\vmlinuz2 mem=128M root=/dev/hdc1 ro"
>
>*** The questions are: "If I installed LILO on /dev/hdc1 (currently on
>/dev/hdc (MBR) as installed since the drive was /dev/hda), booted to Linux
>using loadlin.exe, would it first run LILO (for kernel testing etc.) and use
>the kernel image defined there, or would it still use the kernel image on
>/dev/hda1 (W98 drive - for loadlin.exe to find it)? Would it be worth the
>hassle, or should I just copy a new compiled kernel image to the appropriate
>directory on /dev/hda1 and rewrite the startup menu?"
>
>TABLE1:
>"which drives were where" aka 'changelog'
>===
>at first i had only w98
>---
>/dev/hda1 -- W98 -- fat32 -- 10GB
>/dev/hdd -- CDROM -- iso*
>/dev/hdc5 -- file archive -- fat32 -- 2GB
>===
>bought a hd and installed rh7
>---
>/dev/hda1 -- Linux -- ext2fs -- 20GB
>/dev/hdb5 -- file archive -- fat32 -- 2GB
>/dev/hdc1 -- W98 -- fat32 -- 10GB
>/dev/hdd -- CDROM -- iso*
>+swap
>===
>switched the drives back
>---
>/dev/hda1 -- W98 -- fat32 -- 10GB
>/dev/hdb -- CDROM -- iso*
>/dev/hdc1 -- Linux -- ext2fs -- 20GB
>/dev/hdd5 -- file archive -- fat32 -- 2GB
>+swap
LILO version 21.7 (24-Feb-2001) source at
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/system/boot/lilo
patches to -2 at ftp://brun.dyndns.org/pub/linux/lilo
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From: dick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: system clock
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 14:30:46 -0500
David Efflandt wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Mar 2001 14:14:12 +0200, Thomas G. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >Hello
> >
> >does anybody know if there's an option to not let my SuSE Linux 7.1
> >tamper with the system clock. It's ok if it just displays the time I
> >set up in the BIOS, but now it changes the time IN the BIOS with 3 1/2
> >hour.
>
> It should not do anything to your BIOS clock unless you do something
> with
> the 'hwclock -w' (or --systohc) command. Maybe your timezone is set
> incorrectly Linux ends up with the wrong time when you boot (or the
> wrong setting for UTC/GMT vs. localtime for BIOS time).
>
I have had a similar prob w/suse71.
The difference is 'hwclock' will give me my
BIOS , the correct time, and the 'system' clock
which is supposed to be set to local (eastcoast DST)
shows five hours _behind_ actual time.
What gives here?
Dick
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From: "Jean-Pierre Dub�" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Setup of a Python tape drive in a Dell 2450 poweredge
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 20:02:43 -0500
Hi,
I'm trying to get the Archive python tape drive working on my poweredge
2450. I'm using Suse 7.0 distribution. I didn't have any problem installing
Suse on the system except for the tape drive. I tried accessing the tape
using /dev/nst0 and /dev/st0 and /devnst1, /dev/st1 and I get a device not
dfound message. Any hints?
Thanks
--
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*
* Infocom enr.
* Jean-Pierre Dub�
* D�veloppement de logiciels
* Software development
*
*/
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From: "Johnny A. Solbu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Background processes after logout
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 03:06:33 +0200
Hi all.
How do I make it so that background processes/applications are=20
stooped/killed when a user logs out of the system?
Like, if someone installs an eggdrop on his account,
the eggdrop are killed off when the user logs out.
--=20
Solbu - http://move.to/johnny.solbu
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.admin,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: Copying /etc/passwd from one machine to another
Date: 26 Mar 2001 01:40:59 GMT
In <s0qv6.534492$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "L Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
]How do you folks move over users from one machine to another. Okay I'm
]assuming you are not using NIS. I've to setup a new server and after
]installing OS, I'll have to either recreate users (keeping the same UID's
]and GID's or the file permissions will be screwed) or transfer the old user
]account and data files to the new machine. The easiest way I can think of
]is:
]Copy only user entries from old /etc/passwd, /etc/group, and /etc/shadow
]files and add them to the corresponding files on the new machine.
]Copy old /home directory to the new machine
Yup. I If the old machine and new are both still working, I would NFS
mount the home partitions so changes on one machine would relect on the
other. If the old machine is being chucked, just copy them over.
Do you use shadow passwords? If so, also copy over /etc/shadow
]On a sidenote, how do you find out whether the encrypted passwords will work
]on different versions of the same OS and on different flavours of UNIX? That
]is, if I copy the user accounts from Solaris 7 to a Redhat Linux 7 box, will
]that work?
IF solaris uses the crypt(3) passwords then yes they will work as crypt
(3) passwrods on Linux. (Just do not use the MD5 passwords)
]Thanks
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