Linux-Setup Digest #977, Volume #20 Tue, 3 Apr 01 13:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: How do you stop Linux from trying to start sendmail on startup?? (Rod Smith)
Re: Anybody tried various 2.4 kernel based distributions? Opinions? (Rod Smith)
Re: Bellsouth ADSL (Rod Smith)
Re: How do you set hostname in linux box that gets ip via DHCP? ("KW")
Re: please help me on cable modem for Red Hat 7 ("KW")
Win recognizes Linux partition?? I don't believe it... (Jelly Fish)
Re: Anybody tried various 2.4 kernel based distributions? Opinions? (Vilmos Soti)
Re: I would like to register a complaint ... (Nick Condon)
SOYO SY-K7VTA K7 mb - anyone recomend it ? (HateLinux)
Re: buiding router and firewall with SUSE 7.1 ("Jon Levesque")
hdb boot ("Andrey Shcherbina")
Re: Authentication failure with Slackware 7.1 and OpenSSH ("Ray")
Re: ADSL - Connect to BTopenworld BUSINESS service ethernet router. ("urban junkie")
Re: Which RedHat to use: 6.2 or 7.0 ? (Craig Kelley)
Re: enlightenment problem (Craig Kelley)
Re: I would like to register a complaint ... (Craig Kelley)
Re: I would like to register a complaint ... (Craig Kelley)
Re: please help me on cable modem for Red Hat 7 (Craig Kelley)
java (Steve)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: How do you stop Linux from trying to start sendmail on startup??
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 14:14:22 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I am using a switch to connect my network machines to a cable modem.
> The switch acts as a dhcp host. So, my ip address is not static. Also,
> I just use a machine name and a workgroup. I do not have a fully
> qualified domain. Under those circumstances, how do I configure the
> /etc/hosts file??
My experience with such setups is relatively limited, so I'll let
somebody else offer advice on this one....
> Also, I suspect this may be why the win2k boxes on my network cannot
> see the linux box except by ip address, and even then, I cannot get
> samba to work properly. I can only ftp or telnet into the Linux box.
> The windows machines all seem to recognize each other by name, but the
> linux box cannot be seen.
SMB/CIFS uses its own naming system, which is completely independent of
the system used by TCP/IP. You can force Samba to assume a particular
name with the "netbios name" parameter in your smb.conf file, such as:
netbios name = CHINOOK
You should also be sure that your Linux box is set to use the same
SMB/CIFS workgroup as your Windows boxes, using the "workgroup"
parameter.
> Also, the linux box cannot see any of the
> other machines except by ip address. Again, I attribute this to the
> Maxgate swtich gateway.
If all the machines in question are in the same network segment, that's
not the problem. By default, Samba's client programs use TCP/IP DNS
hostnames first, then fall back to NetBIOS names. It's possible this is
the problem, if the TCP/IP DNS names are different or aren't recorded in
whatever DNS server your system uses. You can have Samba use NetBIOS
names first by using the "name resolve order" parameter:
name resolve order = wins bcast host
There are various other orders that might make sense in some situations,
but given your description of your network, I suspect this is the most
sensible. If you have no WINS (aka NBNS) server, you might remove that
option, though.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Anybody tried various 2.4 kernel based distributions? Opinions?
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 14:17:56 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Posted and mailed]
In article <2e6y6.6930$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"KW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> It's always been my understanding that an X.1 or any odd numbered distro
> was a development version... (7.1, 7.3, whatever ) and even #'s were
> production releases.. I also understand thats unwritten programmer
> stuff... ;) Does SuSe run their stuff different from the "norm" ?
No; that's the *KERNEL* development numbering system you're thinking of.
Some, but not all, other programs follow the same numbering scheme, but
AFAIK *NO* distribution uses it. Distributions tend to use beta
codenames or simply include "beta" in the name, like "Wolverine" (the
beta for the next Red Hat release) or "Mandrake 8.0 beta."
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Crossposted-To:
poster,ahn.tech.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,bellsouth.net.support.adsl,bellsouth.net.support.linux
Subject: Re: Bellsouth ADSL
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 14:21:26 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Posted and mailed]
In article <_iay6.1211$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I meant to each other...I'm a first time dsl user, just got to order and had
> to make that choice PCI vs USB external...I appreciate the info...
For use under Linux, as I've said, the appropriate choice is *NEITHER*.
There's now a driver for an Alcatel USB model, and I know of a driver
for one rare internal DSL modem, but otherwise they're both boat
anchors. Order the service with *NO* modem and buy your own external
Ethernet-based modem instead. Post to comp.dcom.xdsl for advice on
specific models.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
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From: "KW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do you set hostname in linux box that gets ip via DHCP?
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 09:22:16 -0500
Open Linuxconf and goto Client Task, then Basic Host Information...
HOST NAME
www.foo.com
Adaptor 1
Primary Name + Domain Name
foo1.foo.com
adaptor 2
foo2.foo.com
and so on...
OR
edit the /etc/hosts file and
127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost
192.168.0.1 thisis.my.hostname alias.for.myhost <--- YOUR DHCP
server address as the IP...
Than maybe sendmail and the rest will hush ;)
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Unknown"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a linux box on a small network in my house with several other
> win2k boxes and a Maxgate 3200 cable sharing gateway. This gateway
> connects my ethernet network to the internet through a cable modem and
> acts as a DHCP server. If I look at its leased ip address table, it
> correctly shows the computers on my network with their DHCP assigned ip
> addresses (192.168.0.XXX) and their names. And, the win2k boxes seem to
> know both their own names and the names of other win2k boxes on the
> network. These machines can be pinged, etc., via their ip address or
> their name. The linux box, however, is unknown to the other computers on
> the network, except by ip address. And, the win2k boxes are not known to
> the linux box, except by ip address. Also, whenever the linux box starts
> up, sendmail hangs because it does not think the hostname is set
> correctly. Also, whenever I do stuff with linuxconfig, I get errors
> relating to httpd and unknown host name, or incorrect host name. I
> realize that you are supposed to set the host hame and its ip address in
> /etd/hosts, but I don't see how I can do this in s machine that could
> have a different ip address each time it boots up, due to DHCP. Also, I
> do not have a fully qualified domain name, since I just have a home
> network. I do use a workgroup name, but that is all. So, again, how do
> you properly handle this situation in Linux, since all of the
> documentation and faqs that I can find say to use a fully qualified
> name, including the domain name?
>
> TIA,
> Ed
>
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From: "KW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: please help me on cable modem for Red Hat 7
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 09:27:34 -0500
Very similar to the DSL....
Connect the cable modem via the network cable to your NIC, we'll call
that eth0
in linuxconf, set the adapter to start on boot and set IP by DHCP. Make
sure the cable modem is running and passes all test...
make sure in linuxconf you have specified the adapter type and the eth0
for adaptor 1... If you ar in gnome you should have pull down menu's for
most of this...
try ifconfig from console... what is the output?
try pump at console, what is the output of ifconfig afterwwards?
What messages do you have in /var/log/messages? they may tell you what
is wrong...
In article <p1fy6.1308$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Myungcho Oh"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hello
> I am very newbie.
> and using Road Runner from NYC.
> any suggestion will be good for me.
> I have install Red Hat 7 on my desktop (my desktop have win98,
> window2000, and Red Hat 7) during the Red Hat install I choose dhcp and
> boot at start.
>
> what should I do next?
>
> I am using gnome.
> and when I try the netscape. it do not connect. only this message appear
> 'perhaps there is a problem with your name server?
> if your site must use a non-root name server, you will need to set the
> $SOCK_NS environment variable to point at the appropriate name server.'
>
> and from netcfg
> i try to activate the eth0 and this message appear 'operation failed'
> please help me
> I bought 2 books on Linux but there is nothing about dhcp and conneting
> to internet with cable modem. there is only dialup modem and adsl.
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jelly Fish)
Subject: Win recognizes Linux partition?? I don't believe it...
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 14:26:33 GMT
Strange. cfdisk and fdisk report that one of my 8 gig partitions is a
Linux ext2 partition, yet Windows recognizes the partition? Is it
possible that the partition is in fact a DOS partition, and my
partitioning programs are reporting the type incorrectly? Is it
possible to have a sector header that says a Linux partition is to
follow, when in fact a DOS partition follows?
Puzzled...??
Jellyfish
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Subject: Re: Anybody tried various 2.4 kernel based distributions? Opinions?
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 14:45:51 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt) writes:
> Just be aware that the 3 CD workstation version is missing some things
> like ncftp, slrn, bind, and has no ftpd of any kind. It just has tin and
And why do you need ftpd, or especially bind on a *workstation*?
Vilmos
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nick Condon)
Subject: Re: I would like to register a complaint ...
Date: 3 Apr 2001 14:49:37 GMT
KCmaniac wrote:
>There is a very fundemental concept in the DOS/Windows world of being
>able to format a partition, after which you can begin again compiling
>data into that empty but very much functional partition. WHY DOESN'T
>LINUX HAVE AN EQUIVALENT COMMAND/FUNCTION???
>
>Sorry for the big letters but I am now extremely frustrated over Linux's
>
>apparent inability to clear a partition of all its data and to be able
>to just simply begin again. Instead, it appears that you have to jump
>through a bunch of hoops and all of which I have not yet found.
Why on earth would want to format a filesystem just to clear it out?
cd into your partition and type: rm -rf *
--
Nick
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From: 2b@home (HateLinux)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: SOYO SY-K7VTA K7 mb - anyone recomend it ?
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 14:10:05 GMT
Any driver /setup problems a newbie might have ?
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From: "Jon Levesque" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: buiding router and firewall with SUSE 7.1
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 14:54:45 GMT
Check, ip_forwarding is turned on!
What does SuSEconfig do by the way, I ran it, really don't know what it
accomplished.
"David Efflandt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Mon, 02 Apr 2001 15:46:34 GMT, Jon Levesque <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >Hello,
> >
> >I've installed a base system of SUSE 7.1 with two nics. eth0 and eth1.
I
> >have Ip_forwarding enabled but routing does not seem to be working. My
> >routing table is below.
> >
> >Protected servers sit on eth1, T1 on eth0. On the suse box I can ping
any
> >machine on eth1 and any site on eth0. But from machines on the eth1 side
I
> >cannot ping across the suse box. eth1 has ip 204.83.38.4 and eth0 has ip
> >204.83.38.3 and gateway is 204.83.38.1. clients have ip 204.83.38.4 as
their
> >gateway and can ping it successfully, but as I said not across.
> >
> >Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric REF UseIface
> >
> >204.83.38.1 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 uh 0 0 eth0
> >
> >204.83.38.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.128 u 0 0 eth1
> >
> >0.0.0.0 204.83.38.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 eth0
>
> cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
>
> If that is 0 instead of 1, ip forward is not enabled. Check the
> IP_FORWARD setting in /etc/rc.config. Then run SuSEconfig.
>
> --
> David Efflandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.de-srv.com/
> http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
> http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/ http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/
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From: "Andrey Shcherbina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: hdb boot
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:15:00 -0400
Hi,
BIOS on my computer allows changing HDD to boot from. I can successfully
boot from primary master Win2K, secondary master Win98, and I had primary
slave Win2k which I could also boot from. Now I'm trying to install Linux
Debian on that drive.
It's partitioned this way:
hdb1: Linux Swap
hdb3: Linux
hdb5: Win95
When I installed Debian, it asked me if I wish to boot from the HDD. Sure I
want to. There were two choices, MBR and hdb3. MBR didn't work as I removed
primary master to not to screw it up. So, I choose hdb3. It said something
that I'm not booting from primary master drive and maybe my BIOS doesn't
support it. Well, it does! But when I try to boot to Linux, it says "LILO"
and then keeps writing "01".
What could be wrong here?
Thank you,
Andrey
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From: "Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Authentication failure with Slackware 7.1 and OpenSSH
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 23:25:40 +0800
Did you install the libcrypt?
By default it is not there with slakware.
install the descrypt package from the des1 directory in the slakware
directory of disk 1
once this is done, re-compile the openssh and try again.
"Mike Ruskai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> The OpenSSH daemon was compiled and installed without error, and runs
> without complaint.
>
> However, it is unable to authenticate any users. All I've found so far is
> a reference to linking with libcrypt, which was done during the build.
>
> Anyone know what the source of the problem is?
>
>
> --
> - Mike
>
> Remove 'spambegone.net' and reverse to send e-mail.
>
>
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From: "urban junkie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ADSL - Connect to BTopenworld BUSINESS service ethernet router.
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 16:43:56 +0100
"Colin Griffiths" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:3ac98348$0$15023$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Thanks man that's brill. One other question though would you bother to
> setup a cacheing DNS server to save on bandwidth?
> Regards
> Colin.
>
>
Well, you can do - although I think you should probably get a firewall going
first !
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From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which RedHat to use: 6.2 or 7.0 ?
Date: 03 Apr 2001 10:12:29 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clark L. Coleman) writes:
> A while back, everyone was advising me to stick with Red Hat Linux 6.2
> and kernel 2.2.x. There was a lot of bashing of RH 7.0.
>
> I am currently in need of upgrading my kernel from 2.2.14. I can just
> upgrade to 2.2.17 and the problem I am seeing will disappear (don't
> ask, it is not really relevant to my question.) However, I am curious
> about the current consensus on the 2.4.2 kernel and Red Hat 7.0 with
> the latest fixes and RPMs. Is it time to get more current than RH 6.2
> with 2.2.17 kernel?
>
> Thanks for any advice.
For a server I'd go with 6.2, but 7.0 is a much better workstation.
I'm even using 7.0 on one of my servers right now and I haven't had a
single problem -- but still; 6.2 is very well tested.
--
It won't be long before the CPU is a card in a slot on your ATX videoboard
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: enlightenment problem
Date: 03 Apr 2001 10:13:41 -0600
"George Chang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> everytime my linux starts up in enlightenment, the icons on my desktop and
> panel don't come up. how do i get it to make them show when it starts up?
> thanks
I assume you want to use GNOME instead of enlightenment? (you can use
both, if you like) :
In your home directory there is (should be) a file called ".xinitrc".
Edit this file so that the only thing in it is:
exec gnome-session
--
It won't be long before the CPU is a card in a slot on your ATX videoboard
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I would like to register a complaint ...
Date: 03 Apr 2001 10:15:45 -0600
KCmaniac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I realize this isn't the argument clinic, but I would like to register a
>
> complaint.
>
> There is a very fundemental concept in the DOS/Windows world of being
> able to format a partition, after which you can begin again compiling
> data into that empty but very much functional partition. WHY DOESN'T
> LINUX HAVE AN EQUIVALENT COMMAND/FUNCTION???
mke2fs -c /dev/your_hard_disk_partition
[snip rant]
--
It won't be long before the CPU is a card in a slot on your ATX videoboard
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I would like to register a complaint ...
Date: 03 Apr 2001 10:16:18 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nick Condon) writes:
> KCmaniac wrote:
>
> >There is a very fundemental concept in the DOS/Windows world of being
> >able to format a partition, after which you can begin again compiling
> >data into that empty but very much functional partition. WHY DOESN'T
> >LINUX HAVE AN EQUIVALENT COMMAND/FUNCTION???
> >
> >Sorry for the big letters but I am now extremely frustrated over Linux's
> >
> >apparent inability to clear a partition of all its data and to be able
> >to just simply begin again. Instead, it appears that you have to jump
> >through a bunch of hoops and all of which I have not yet found.
>
> Why on earth would want to format a filesystem just to clear it out?
> cd into your partition and type: rm -rf *
It's faster to just make a new filesystem.
--
It won't be long before the CPU is a card in a slot on your ATX videoboard
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: please help me on cable modem for Red Hat 7
Date: 03 Apr 2001 10:18:18 -0600
"Myungcho Oh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> hello
> I am very newbie.
> and using Road Runner from NYC.
> any suggestion will be good for me.
> I have install Red Hat 7 on my desktop
> (my desktop have win98, window2000, and Red Hat 7)
> during the Red Hat install I choose dhcp and boot at start.
>
> what should I do next?
>
> I am using gnome.
> and when I try the netscape. it do not connect.
> only this message appear
> 'perhaps there is a problem with your name server?
> if your site must use a non-root name server,
> you will need to set the $SOCK_NS environment
> variable to point at the appropriate name server.'
>
> and from netcfg
> i try to activate the eth0 and this message appear
> 'operation failed'
> please help me
> I bought 2 books on Linux but there is nothing about dhcp and conneting to
> internet with cable modem. there is only dialup modem and adsl.
You probably don't want to use DHCP; many cable modem providers use
broken Microsoft DHCP which requires that the NetBIOS name be set for
the machine (and the "Workgroup" advertised).
Instead, once you have Windows running write down the IP address,
gateway, name servers and netmask. Reboot into Linux and setup the
ethernet device *manually* with those same numbers. The worst that
could happen is that the DHCP server gives you a new address, and
you'll have to update the Linux numbers (this has never happened to
me, though).
--
It won't be long before the CPU is a card in a slot on your ATX videoboard
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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From: Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: java
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 16:52:34 GMT
I have jdk 1.1 and whenever I tried to run java or javac I always get an
error message: Cannot open /proc/XXXXX for GC. I have kernel 2.4.3. The
thing sound strange because I once succeded in both compiling and running
java progs without making any config cahnges. What happens?
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