Linux-Setup Digest #997, Volume #20               Fri, 6 Apr 01 04:13:08 EDT

Contents:
  questions on boot failure and NetBoot ("Xiaofeng Zhang")
  Cannot access Linux server (newsreader99)
  Re: Stupid newbie questions ("Matt Greer")
  Re: FYI on Power Failure induced crashes (in Linux) ("G.T.")
  Re: Mandrake 7.2 .iso image (newsreader99)
  Help! - Loading Sound Module Prevents Booting ("Richard A. Bilonick")
  Re: Where is smbpasswd? ("Richard A. Bilonick")
  Tweaking memory management (Peter Schuller)
  Re: Deleted ALSA device file -- how to recover? ("Pavan")
  Re: Where is smbpasswd? (Craig Kelley)
  Re: G4 TI (billy ball)
  Problem with XFree86-4.0.2? (OrangeDino)
  Re: Having problem creating partition (Stanislaw Flatto)
  Re: Where is smbpasswd? ("Paul Bayer")
  Re: Red Hat 7.0 & Lilo (Markku Tikkanen)
  Re: LFS (Linux From Scratch) ("Brian Bisaillon")
  Re: Red Hat 7.0 & Lilo ("Eric")
  Re: cdrom does not mount. ("Eric")

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From: "Xiaofeng Zhang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: questions on boot failure and NetBoot
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 22:12:23 -0500

Hi, falks,
I'm a newbie in liunx and installed linux Red Hat 7 on my pentium the other
day. I got a PII and just moved my hard disks to the new machine. But it
could not boot anymore. Here are some error messages:
(quote)...
request_module[ide-cd]: Root fs not mounted
hdc: driver not present
VFS: Cannot open root device 16:01
Kernal panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 16:01
(unquote)
I tried to reinstall it using NetBoot from floppy disk. But it just halted
after I selected network card type...
Can anybody give me some suggestion?
Thanks,
x



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (newsreader99)
Subject: Cannot access Linux server
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:16:32

After I changed the network card and reinstall Turbolinux on my Linux box in 
campus, I cannot access it from outside campus anymore. I can access it from 
inbside campus through the LAN , but not when I dial into the campus based 
ISP. I cannot ping  nor telnet the Linux Box from home.
A Sun in the same Lan can be accessed. After I logged into the sun and try to 
access the Linux box, I still failed. Can someone suggest where I should look 
for the problems?  Thanks.

  

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From: "Matt Greer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Stupid newbie questions
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 22:24:54 -0500

"Nathan J. Nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>
> "Nathan J. Nagel" wrote:
> >
> > Oh yes, forgot to mention, how do I create a boot disk? I was never
> > prompted to create one during the install process.
> >

If you don't mind investing $35 in a book, grab "Running Linux" by Matt
Welsh and a few other people. I'm also new to Linux and have found this book
very helpful. It's nothing special, all the info is on the net. But the book
puts it in a logical order, and is easy reading. I've gone from
"uhh...uhhh..." to pretty comfortable in just a few days.

--
Matt
http://www.classicgaming.com/neotokens


> > "Nathan J. Nagel" wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I'm trying to install Linux for the first time on my "parts bin"
> > > computer.  I've tried Caldera 2.3 and it seemed to install OK (no
> > > problems at all in fact - seemed too easy!) and run fine but when I
shut
> > > down and rebooted LILO will hang on "LI" - this is on a system with no
> > > other OS, just Linux.  I'd like to RTFM but I don't know where it is,
so
> > > gentle pointers or any helpful hints would be greatly appreciated!  I
> > > just used the GUI that came with the CD and let it do all the work, I
> > > didn't try to "tweak" anything.
> > >
> > > I successfully installed Red Hat 5.2 on this same machine previously,
> > > but never did get everything to function correctly :( (video was all
> > > screwed up - everything was working but sometimes my text would end up
> > > the same color as the background, and none of the utilities wanted to
> > > work reliably)
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >
> > > nate



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From: "G.T." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.questions,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,alt.os.linux.redhat,alt.os.linux.questions,comp.os.msdos.misc,linux.redhat.install,sci.research.careers
Subject: Re: FYI on Power Failure induced crashes (in Linux)
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 21:08:06 -0700

Arthur Sowers wrote:
> 
> I am aware of five filesystems and some of the advantages and
> disadvantages of two or three of them. I will stay with the ext2 for the
> time being.
> 

Well, then, you better power down properly then.  Now that you've
reduced the number of daemons running you probably have less chance of
corruption but it doesn't mean your risk is gone.

> I'm less interested in "risk" than I am in what WILL or WILL NOT happen.
> 

Depends on what is happening when the power goes off, doesn't it?  How
can one say what will or will not happen?  We need to know the state the
machine is in before the power goes off.

> > Why are you cross-posting to groups such as comp.os.msdos.misc
> 
> There are a lot of bright guys on msdos who know a lot more about OSes,
> and many different OSes, than you might think. Some of them don't like
> Windows either.
> 

Why'd you bother saying that?  Who cares if they like Windows or not? 
The point is one isn't going to get a wealth of valid information asking
rec.equestrian how to tune one's car.

> 
> > Talk about shotgun approach to getting an
> > answer.  If you didn't get decent suggestions from the linux newsgroups
> > for this most basic of problems
> 
> I've monitored all of the major Linux newsgroups for the better part of a
> year and the question never came up, at least until I posted my original
> question. For your information, I have saved all of the most significant
> replies I got in a folder off my PINE application and will be willing to
> send you a copy if you wish of each saved reply to show you how I
> presented the question and what I got in return.
> 

Sure thing.

>  then you should subscribe to one of the
> > vendor e-mail lists.
> 
> What makes you think the answer will come out of this any better than what
> I did? I'd have to wait maybe months to a year for an answer, and maybe an
> answer would never appear.
> 

Because this and very similar questions have been brought up endlessly
at least on the SuSE list.  And the questions have been answered because
there are many knowledgable people along with SuSE employees on the
list.  I, too, never got decent answers in the Linux newsgroups but I
sure did from the various mailing lists I subscribed to.

> Knowing a few things about commercial computer/software support and
> consulting, I will offer that I think I could anticipate that I would be
> paying money first, and then getting poor answers rather than good
> answers. The same thing happens with rare diseases and rare medical
> conditions when they are presented to the medical industry (I have
> personal experience).
> 

We're not talking about rare diseases here.  If you know a few things
about commercial computer/software support did you not realize it's
usually best to start with the vendor when looking for help?

>  The SuSE English list is very helpful, don't know
> > about the Caldera or Redhat ones as I haven't checked them in years.
> 
> Thank you for your response.
> 
> Did I answer all of your questions?
> 
> I know you didn't answer mine.
> 

If you bothered to read the previous messages you should be able to
figure it out.

BTW, I never saw your original question.  However, the following is from
your original FYI message:

"All this happened to me several times and upon reboot, the boot process
hangs somewhere and won't complete."

I hope you weren't that vague in your original pursuit?

Greg

-- 
See http://www.2fortheroad.net for ugly bikes and stale music. 
"Why does a man with nothing to say, he always seems to talk?" - Marc
Riley

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (newsreader99)
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.2 .iso image
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:27:33

Try Nero. It works.

In article <9aj3v8$cck$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "01nk" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:>From: "01nk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Mandrake 7.2 .iso image
>Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 01:51:07 +0100

>hello,

>I've just downloaded the .iso image of Linux Mandrake 7.2.  I've tried
>burning it to a CD but it just saved the image in the CD's root as the
>image, (Mandrake72-inst) not as the acutal OS.  Am i supposed to extract
>this image first to a directory and then burn the files in that directory
>onto a CD?  If so does anyone know of a utility to do this and where to get
>it plz?  Otherwise if this isn't what i'm supposed to do, what am I supposed
>to do?

>thanks




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From: "Richard A. Bilonick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help! - Loading Sound Module Prevents Booting
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 05:05:15 GMT

I tried to install a sound module using sndconfig. Now when I try to
boot, the boot stops at the load sound module line and just sits there.
How can I get it to skip loading the sound module so the boot process
can complete? Do I have to re-install the system to fix this?

--
Rick Bilonick -  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: "Richard A. Bilonick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,linux.samba
Subject: Re: Where is smbpasswd?
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 05:06:59 GMT

There are two parts to samba - the server and the client. By default, only the
client is installed. Do an upgrade and find the samba server package (or
download an rpm).

Hiawatha Bray wrote:

> I need it to set up encrypted passwords in Samba, but when I installed RH 7,
> smbpaswd did NOT get installed, and I have no idea where it is.  Help!

--
Rick Bilonick -  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Schuller)
Subject: Tweaking memory management
Date: 6 Apr 2001 05:26:15 GMT

Hello,

are there any known memory management tweaks in Linux 2.2.x?

The problem is that since I've upgraded to 384 megs of RAM, although I saw a
great improvememnt over 128, Linux isn't dedicating enough RAM for disk cache.

I can do "free" and see at least 200 megs in the buffers/cache field, but
still have problems. For example, typically I have some stuff running (20 or
so rxcts, mozilla, etc). I can start NetBeans (pretty huge Java IDE) and
work with it with no problems. Then I might start something else (say,
StarOffice or VisualWorks, etc).

This is where I have 200 megs in the buffers/cache category. But yet,
NetBeans become really slow due to disk access when compiling and such.

Basically, I have enough RAM to accomodate everything running, but Linux
doesn't seem to be priorotizing memory usage properly.

Is there anything I can do (besides trying Linux 2.4/FreeBSD :))? Is there
some tool (or kernel compilation options) that allows me to tweak these
things?

Thanks,

-- 
/ Peter Schuller, InfiDyne Technologies HB

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From: "Pavan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Deleted ALSA device file -- how to recover?
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:57:43 +0530

> mental handle on how device files work, etc.  How do I recreate the
file (and
> get my sound working again)?  I've tried: (a) rebooting, (b)
reinstalling ALSA

There is a snddevices script in the alsa source package. Run it. It
will re-create the devices.

-Pavan



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From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,linux.samba
Subject: Re: Where is smbpasswd?
Date: 05 Apr 2001 23:45:24 -0600

"Hiawatha Bray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I need it to set up encrypted passwords in Samba, but when I installed RH 7,
> smbpaswd did NOT get installed, and I have no idea where it is.  Help!

$ rpm -qf /usr/bin/smbpasswd 
samba-common-2.0.7-31
samba-2.0.7-31

-- 
It won't be long before the CPU is a card in a slot on your ATX videoboard
Craig Kelley  -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (billy ball)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: Re: G4 TI
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 06:00:47 GMT

On Tue, 3 Apr 2001 15:05:15 -0400, Bill Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Well I did it. Today leapt into "MAC" land. My background is IBM AIX on PPC
>an Windows for a long time. I have Linux running in dual boot SuSe and 2k on
>a Compaq laptop but have always wanted my Linux on the PPC chip ( I would
>love to install AIX in my Powebook) What I would like to know is if anyone
>can point me to a sites that talk about what distro work best on the G4
>Powerbook, also I have a Lucent Wireless Gateway in the house running with 4
>Linux/windows connections. I ordered a AIRPORT card with the hope that it
>would connect to my existing network. ( I hope this is true). ANY help would
>be greatly appreciated.

i have Linux PPC 2000Q4 running on my Tibook... the modem, ethernet,
sound, and USB work... using XFree401, i'm using X at 24bpp...

now if only i could get my Adaptec 1480 working with PCMCIA...



>THNXS
>BTW has anyone gotten StarOFFICE on PPC ?
>
>
>

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From: OrangeDino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem with XFree86-4.0.2?
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 13:53:32 +0800

I have upgraded my XFree86 from 3.3.6 to 4.0.2 with rpms for RedHat 6.x.
My display card is Sis6326. After the installation, I cannot configure
XFree86 with Xconfigurator, XFree86 -configure, xf86config. They all
cannot select the "sis" driver for my card and give the workable setting
for my card. I should edit the XF86Config file manually to make my card
work. As it work with my card, it cannot work with the X-fonts server,
the rpms included. Whenever I startx, it has problem with the FontPath
"unix/:-1" and remove it from the list. If I include the TTF font path
in the xfs to the XF86Config file, everything look fine until display
something with Chinese Big5 character and it would crash immediately.
Without the TTF font path included, all Big5 character can display in
KDE2.1, Gnome1.2, but not Netscape, correctly with no crash. One thing
wrong with startx is if I startx from one virtual terminal, the display
would be a mess, no fonts diplay and wrong graphic. I should return to
the virtual terminal screen with Ctrl+Alt+F1 first and then return to
display with Ctrl+Alt+F7 to have the correct display. As the XFree86
start, it claims that cannot load the kernel module of "SiS" support but
I have compiled my 2.4.2 kernel to include "SiS" support already.
Any one have idea to edit the XF86Config file to make XFree86 to work
better with display card for my linux box?
Thanks for your kindly concern!


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From: Stanislaw Flatto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Having problem creating partition
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 17:02:18 +1000



John Fusek wrote:

> So how do I find that file and move it or whatever?  I know next to nothing
> about windows and have to no desire to learn.  So please make it simple, thanks.
>
>                                                           John Fusek
>                                                            [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

What comes to mind is the MS-Glassware equivalent of Linux swap.
It usually is a hidden file which is not moveable by scandisk and defrag.
The drastic measure would be to delete the partition with fdisk (not FDISK.EXE)
create type 83 instead and let Windows to complain, then install a new memory
compartment for swapping on another partition.
Windows users in your neighbourhood will know how.(Some of them are intelligent)

Have fun.

Stanislaw.
Slack user from Ulladulla.


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From: "Paul Bayer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,linux.samba
Subject: Re: Where is smbpasswd?
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 07:09:01 GMT

By default it is in /etc/samba

If you don't have that folder - Samba may not be installed....

Note: In previous versions, the smb.conf file was in /etc....

--
- Paul
"Hiawatha Bray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9aja6a$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I need it to set up encrypted passwords in Samba, but when I installed RH
7,
> smbpaswd did NOT get installed, and I have no idea where it is.  Help!
>
>



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From: Markku Tikkanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux
Subject: Re: Red Hat 7.0 & Lilo
Date: 6 Apr 2001 07:11:55 GMT

Elem103 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hmm.. i did this about a year ago.  Hope i still remember how to do it ..
> properly.  Anyway, i think this is what i did.

> I made sure that everything is in the first 1024 cylinders of the hard
> drive, due to the use of old lilo.

Well, the partitions you have are basically the same way I'm having - with
the exception that my first linux partition (/boot) is waaaay beyond the
1024 limit. Somewhere was said that newer lilo's can boot beyond the limit
- but I didn't check that is it included in RH7...

BTW: how much is 1k cylinders in GB's? Or does it depend on HD in use?
8 Gigs?


> Well, i have not tested lilo much, so i can't really say.  Most of the time,
> i just made sure that my boot partition is above 1024.
                                             -----
You mean below?

I think my problems are all because of having about 24 Gigs of Fat32
-partitions in beginning of drive. And, I'm having the drive on HPT370
conroller (KT7-RAID)

Perhaps I try not to get blood out of my nose (a finnish way of saying)
and create a 16-meg /boot -partition at the beginning of the drive.

thanks for your concern, Elem.

        tiki

(ahh, the spring is coming! ...how about there? ;] )


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From: "Brian Bisaillon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: LFS (Linux From Scratch)
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 07:22:08 GMT

I made my own Linux distribution and even though it was very time consuming
it was an extremely rewarding experience. My Linux distribution is powering
a few servers right now as a matter of fact :-) Check out
irc.linuxfromscratch.org and you can get in touch with the main guys! I used
to hangout there all the time although I haven't been in quite a while...

"<toor>" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9aiihk$o33$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am thinking of making my own linux system, is it worth the trouble. I
> checked out the documents from http://www.linuxfromscratch.com/
>
> Thanks
>
>
>



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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux
Subject: Re: Red Hat 7.0 & Lilo
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:38:16 +0200

> > Hmm.. i did this about a year ago.  Hope i still remember how to do it
..
> > properly.  Anyway, i think this is what i did.
>
> > I made sure that everything is in the first 1024 cylinders of the hard
> > drive, due to the use of old lilo.
>
> Well, the partitions you have are basically the same way I'm having - with
> the exception that my first linux partition (/boot) is waaaay beyond the
> 1024 limit. Somewhere was said that newer lilo's can boot beyond the limit
> - but I didn't check that is it included in RH7...

it is.
(version 21.4.3 and above I think)
But your BIOS must support it too.
But if your system isn't over 3 years old, it probably will.

> BTW: how much is 1k cylinders in GB's? Or does it depend on HD in use?
> 8 Gigs?

depends on the settings
Cylinders(=1024)*Heads*Sectors*512=Number_of_bytes

>
> > Well, i have not tested lilo much, so i can't really say.  Most of the
time,
> > i just made sure that my boot partition is above 1024.
>                                              -----
> You mean below?

He must have meant that indeed.

> I think my problems are all because of having about 24 Gigs of Fat32
> -partitions in beginning of drive. And, I'm having the drive on HPT370
> conroller (KT7-RAID)

don't know about RAID, but 24 GIG will be way beyond 1024 indeed.

If you would *show* your lilo.conf and your partitiontables,
we would perhaps be able to help.

> Perhaps I try not to get blood out of my nose (a finnish way of saying)
> and create a 16-meg /boot -partition at the beginning of the drive.

it would probably be the easiest solution, if you can do this.

Eric



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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: cdrom does not mount.
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:44:26 +0200

> in our /etc/fstab we have the following line.
> /dev/cdrom    /mnt/cdrom   iso9660     ro,noauto   0  0.
> when we type mount /dev/cdrom /mnt we get the error
> the kernel does not recognize dev/cdrom as a block device maybe 'insmod
> driver'?
>
> we tried changing the fstab to /dev/hdc but it will not work.
> however on boot it appears that hda is the cdrom. this used to work all
> along.

/home/user>cat /proc/ide/hda/model
Maxtor 90645D3
/home/user>cat /proc/ide/hdc/model
NEC CD-ROM DRIVE:288

Try these on your system to see where the CDROM is attached.
Then see if the link /dev/cdrom still exists, and points to the correct
device

> why today it doesn't makes no sense.

Something must have happened.
Added hardware? You had a crash/powerfailure?
You used windows in between and have a bad partitiontable?

Eric




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