Linux-Setup Digest #998, Volume #20               Fri, 6 Apr 01 09:13:12 EDT

Contents:
  dial up on Red Hat 6.1 ("Uncul Dragisa")
  Re: Where is smbpasswd? (David Yan)
  Re: dial up on Red Hat 6.1 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: ICQ in Linux (shaark)
  problem with modem on COM3 (Michal Szymanski)
  Re: Linux  on Pentuim  Or Celeron? what is the best choice? ("yalu")
  Re: Time server setup (Jarl Friis)
  Help with Dual Boot Win98 and Mandrake 8.0b3 on A7V (mookie)
  Re: Can't build kernel--"redefinition of `struct user_struct'" ("ne...")
  Re: Mounting a floppy... (Wayne Pollock)
  Re: Need to Install Debian over a RedHat install but... ("Duane Healing")
  Loading modules at startup (Accesnonautorise)
  Re: Help with Dual Boot Win98 and Mandrake 8.0b3 on A7V ("Eric")
  NEWBIE:  where are display resolutions?? ("= Acetic =")
  Re: Loading modules at startup ("ne...")
  HELP: Newbie to Linux (William Robinson)
  Re: mail and attachments ("qxb")
  Re: HELP: Newbie to Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: NEWBIE:  where are display resolutions?? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Time server setup (Helmut Haefner)
  Re: Primary partition... on every HDD? (Steve Martin)
  Re: Upgrading RH 6.2 to 7.0 (Steve Martin)
  Slackware 7.1 invalid compressed format (err=2) (Bill Lucas)
  Re: Need to Install Debian over a RedHat install but... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  chmod ("Mikkel Jakobsen")
  Re: Slackware 7.1 invalid compressed format (err=2) (Stanislaw Flatto)
  Re: xfree86 4.0.3 installation (Steve Martin)
  Re: Any help for XFree86-4.0.2? (Michael Perry)
  ATI Radeon (Olivier Colliot)

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From: "Uncul Dragisa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: dial up on Red Hat 6.1
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:13:44 +0300

Hi,

What are the steps to install dial up for mail and internet access.
I whant if possible that conection to be made automaticaly when i send and
receive mails.

--
 Dragisa



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From: David Yan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,linux.samba
Subject: Re: Where is smbpasswd?
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 09:45:48 +0100

Try /etc/smbpasswd, but you should not need to access it directly.  Set up
Unix/Linux users and then go smbpasswd -a <user> (see man pages/docs for full
description).  If smbpasswd does not exist, it will get created.  If you are
determined to find it, try locate smbpasswd or find / -iname *smbpas*


Hiawatha Bray wrote:

> I need it to set up encrypted passwords in Samba, but when I installed RH 7,
> smbpaswd did NOT get installed, and I have no idea where it is.  Help!


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: dial up on Red Hat 6.1
Date: 6 Apr 2001 08:38:48 GMT

Uncul Dragisa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What are the steps to install dial up for mail and internet access.
> I whant if possible that conection to be made automaticaly when i send and
> receive mails.

I think you must install diald, the dial daemon. See the documentation
for Diald (the Diald-HOWTO) on www.linuxdoc.org

Davide

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From: shaark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ICQ in Linux
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 02:14:19 -0700

Garfield wrote:

> Hi!
> I am a new user of Linux, now I want to
> install ICQ ,but I could not find the right
> way to do it ,could somebody tell me how
> to do it?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
If you are a linux newbie or just don't want the hassle of downloading and 
ICQ client goto:
http://www.icq.com/icqwebbie/
You need to have a java capable browser such as Netscape.
All the contact lists are kept on the server so you can login from any 
computer!!!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michal Szymanski)
Subject: problem with modem on COM3
Date: 6 Apr 2001 09:32:23 GMT

Hi,

I have a machine with internal Sportster modem set to COM3/IRQ5.
Machine is running RH6.2.

I have problems with getting it to work. When the modem was set
(deafult) by jumpers to PnP operation, it was not recognized by Linux at
all. After hard-jumpering it to COM3/IRQ5 strange thing is happening:

'dmesg' shows only two serial ports, ttyS1 and ttyS2. ttyS0 disappeared
but actually it was somehow magically moved to ttyS1 - the mouse is
working when I make a link /dev/mouse -> /dev/ttyS1, although it is
still connected to the same (COM1) port on MoBo. The ttyS2 requires to
be manually 'setserial' to IRQ5 but this is 'normal' according to
Serial-HOWTO.

Still, I do not know how to make the Linux see all three serial ports,
namely ttyS0, S1 and S2.

any hints?

regards, Michal.
 
-- 
  Michal Szymanski ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Warsaw University Observatory, Warszawa, POLAND

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From: "yalu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: be.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux  on Pentuim  Or Celeron? what is the best choice?
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 11:57:22 +0200

> However, having said all that, remember that the choice of processor is
> of far less importance compared to memory!! Put lots of memory in either
> machines and you will give performance a boost. I mean it!! And don't
> let anyone tell you otherwise!

Yup, certainly with linux, it makes use of every additional bit of ram. 


-- 
It's about making the world a better place - Richard Stallman

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From: Jarl Friis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Time server setup
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:56:07 +0200

Hi Kerry.

I think you want a GPS device that you can communicate with, there is a 
standard protocol called NMEA-0183, other standards exists too. Most prof. 
devices support those protocols, even many minor devices support them. Get 
a device that support those standard protocols and get some software. 

Regarding software, try a google search of "linux GPS" or a starting point 
may be http://www.mgix.com/gps3d/

Please make a small web-page that can be found by google that describes 
your solution it may be usefull to others.

Good luck.

Jarl

-- 
Life is great.

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From: mookie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help with Dual Boot Win98 and Mandrake 8.0b3 on A7V
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 12:17:08 +0200

[This followup was posted to comp.os.linux.setup and a copy was sent
 to the cited author.]

Hello,

I've been fighting the whole Promise controller bit on the A7V for the 
longest time and when Mandrake 8.0b3 was released, I'd hoped it would 
solve everything.  

I'm a total newbie and could use some advice on setup.  I've tried to 
read as widely as possible through howtos, newgroups and have tried 
pretty much everything but somehow I just seem to have no luck with 
this.  So please help :P

My setup

Asus A7V with Promise ATA100 on mobo
Two IBM 30Gb HDD (I wanted to keep each OS on a separate physical disk, 
I was told this was the way to go)

Firstly, I tried connecting both disks to the promise controller (Win98 
drive in slot 1, linux in slot 2).  Fdisk /mbr to get rid of old boot 
records.  Did a fresh install of Mandrake 8b3 on the linux drive.  It 
recognised both drives right away.  I set up using the ReiserFS and 
completed the install as usual (in recommended mode).  

The install program hung at the end (after the diaglog box that says it 
would reboot into Mandrake) and when I reset the computer, all I got was 
the "LI" error on boot.

Variables tinkered with:
USB Legacy support in bios (appears to not make a difference in 8.0b3-
unsure) 
PS2 vs USB Microsoft Intellimouse
Linux install with Windows drive connected (sees the Windows partitions, 
but install program hangs)
Linux install without Windows drive connected (boots windows directly)
Lilo installed to mbr (LI error) or first partition of linux drive 
(boots to Win98, no Lilo)

I also read in mandrakeuser.org that there might be an issue connecting 
2 drives to the Promise controller as they share the same IRQ anyway and 
hence the second channel becomes a slave channel.  Does anyone know if 
this is true?  

Is it better to place both OSes in the same physical drive?  I wonder if 
that might resolve this boot issue.

I would really appreciate all suggestions.  It's a great opportunity to 
learn.  Thanks in advance

Shaoen

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From: "ne..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't build kernel--"redefinition of `struct user_struct'"
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 10:19:04 GMT

On Apr 5, 2001 at 19:45, Brue Halco eloquently wrote:

>Unfortunately, that was no help. I started over with
>
>  make mrproper
>  make xconfig
>  make dep
>  make
>bzImage
>
>but got the same error :-(
Delete the source and start again. This time use make
menuconfig or config. Do not use xconfig.
[...]

-- 
Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org)
Elephant, n.:
        A mouse built to government specifications.
  6:14am  up 20 days,  6:13,  7 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00


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From: Wayne Pollock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Mounting a floppy...
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 06:41:17 -0400

Also, you might have an automatic mounting deamon running.  Do a
ps -ef and see if either autofs or amd is running.  If so, you
merely need to insert the cd or floppy, then ls /misc/cd or
/misc/fd.  These directories don't exists until you attempt to
use them; on the first use the system creates these subdirectories
and mounts the media.  After a timeout interval of non-use, the
media will be automatically unmounted.  The automatic mounting
can be configured for zip and other media, and the names of the
directories and timout values can all be configured.  Is that easy
or what?

And if you have a GUI running, you can probably add icons (if
they're not there already) that auto mount the media when clicked.

Have fun!

-Wayne Pollock

Allan wrote:
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> - Allan
> 
> Conrad Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Allan wrote:
> >
> > > Theoretical Question:
> > > If I already have a /mnt/cdrom/    and a   /mnt/floppy/   directory, WHY
> do
> > > I have to go and manually MOUNT them for them to work? (Wouldn't you
> think
> > > the installation install it?)
> > >
> > > Practical Question:
> > > I read how to mount my CDROM from my RedHat Reference book. But how do I
> > > mount my floppy? I can't find the floppy in the /dev/ directory. I don't
> > > know any great command prompt command to find it. HELP! Where is the
> floppy
> > > located in the directory tree? Do I need the "iso..." file system
> command as
> > > in the CD ROM?...
> > >
> > > - Allan
> >
> > http://home.world-online.no/~ackleppe/newton/redhat6/node30.html
> >
> >
> >

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From: "Duane Healing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need to Install Debian over a RedHat install but...
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 03:57:17 -0700

If you can't boot the CD, you can always make the boot disks off the
images on the install media and boot that. You'll need rescue, root, and
the driver disks. Once you get the system up with them you should have
drivers for everything loaded and be able to read the CD and install
everything else.

See dists/stable/main/disks-i386/current/README.txt on the CD for more
details.

--
-Duane
-DNAware SoftLabs

In article <9aj4jk$isp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "MKinn"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have an old Dell optiplex GXi that does not allow me to boot from CD.
> I have upgraded the bios to vA05 from A00, and I am not offered a choice
> to "Boot from CD" in the boot sequence options.
> 
> I need to reformat box and install Debian from my 3 Debian CD's.
> 
> How would I do this ?
> 
>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Accesnonautorise)
Date: 06 Apr 2001 11:02:32 GMT
Subject: Loading modules at startup

Hi,

I'd like to load the following modules at startup:
bttv.o
tuner.o
msp3400.o
Instead of logging as root and typing /sbin/modprobe <modulename> at every
startup, could Linux automatically load them, and then unload when shutting
down ?
I like to avoid logging as root.
Thanks a lot.

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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help with Dual Boot Win98 and Mandrake 8.0b3 on A7V
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 13:35:50 +0200

> I've been fighting the whole Promise controller bit on the A7V for the
> longest time and when Mandrake 8.0b3 was released, I'd hoped it would
> solve everything.
>
> The install program hung at the end (after the diaglog box that says it
> would reboot into Mandrake) and when I reset the computer, all I got was
> the "LI" error on boot.

that's a fairly common problem.
The files required to boot couldn't be found.

booting linux from floppy does succeed I presume?

how did you partition your HDD?

could you show:
`/sbin/fdisk -l /dev/hd[a-z]`
`cat /etc/lilo.conf`

Eric



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From: "= Acetic =" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: NEWBIE:  where are display resolutions??
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 21:45:52 +1000

I just installed RH Linux 7.0 and have only ever used Corel Linux before and
that was ages ago.

All the icons are soooo huge!!!  And I can't even see the entire box that
will be drawn when you click on an icon.  I have to move the box across,
above, etc to see it all.

My question:  Where is the stupid display resolutions thing (ie 800x600,
1024x768, etc)??  I can't stand this largeness.

I'm too much a windows user :o(

Also, I couldn't get it to multiboot with Win2k either.....
I had Win2k beforehand, had my C drive a 100meg FAT16 drive for the boot
thingies.  But I couldn't tell the linux installer to set it as /boot (cause
it wasn't Linux Native).  So I got rid of that partition, set it all up and
now i don't have win2k bootup files no more. oh well.



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From: "ne..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Loading modules at startup
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 11:58:39 GMT

On Apr 6, 2001 at 11:02, Accesnonautorise eloquently wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I'd like to load the following modules at startup:
>bttv.o
>tuner.o
>msp3400.o
>Instead of logging as root and typing /sbin/modprobe <modulename> at every
>startup, could Linux automatically load them, and then unload when shutting
>down ?
That's what rc.local is for.

-- 
Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org)
Whitehead's Law:
        The obvious answer is always overlooked.
  7:53am  up 20 days,  7:53,  8 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00


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From: William Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HELP: Newbie to Linux
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 12:56:50 +0100

hullo,
        If you get bored, jsut skip to THE POINT. my name is bill and i
am almost 20. i am studying electronic engineering at the university of
sussex, in brighton. i have been an amiga user for the last 10+years. i
am a very keen programmer, i have done since i was 7, in BASIC on a
spectrum. Recently, my amiga died. it would require some prosthetic
limbs to get it working again... and i think i've lost motivation. i was
using a large TV with a good SCART connection. it's main functions were
making music, programming and playing a few games.
        i have decided that soon is the time for me to get another
computer. i do not want anything to do with MicroSoft. i would like to
buy as much second hand as possible. i know a fair bit about the
principles of computing and assembling a computer. i have not really
ever fiddled around with an IBM compatible PC, though, except with the
crude interface that Windows NT presents me at university.
        I have read about Linux because the first 12 issues of Linux
Format have been posted through my door after Amiga Format closed and i
had subscription left. I am VERY interested in the open-source movement
now and Linux. i would like to assemble myself a computer, or at least
find one, that i can continue making my music on and programming in
C/C++/Java/..??
        Ideally i would like to be able to mix 16-bit audio on several
channels, and play a few primative games... frontier, cthangband, etc.
and maybe have an internet connexion. word processing is of little
interest to me, but if i could find something that saved in a word
compatible format, that would be the icing on the cake.

        THE POINT:

        Thank you for reading. Does anyone have any guidelines for what
i should be looking for? i have no idea what kind of processor speed i
am after, how much memory, how big a hard drive, what's compatible with
what, what kind of monitor (just as long as it's at least 17"/19"),
sound hardware, graphics hardware, etc. that i might be after. thanks
for your time.

bill


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From: "qxb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mail and attachments
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 20:07:04 +0800

try
cat file.tar.gz | uuencode file.tar.gz | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"ImaLuzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Can the "mail" program send attachments? I've been looking ALL OVER for
> information on this and have come up empty.
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: HELP: Newbie to Linux
Date: 6 Apr 2001 12:07:58 GMT

William Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>       Thank you for reading. Does anyone have any guidelines for what
> i should be looking for?

Go to www.linuxdoc.org and read the FAQ and the Hardware-HOWTO.
Also, check the on www.linux.org the Hardare compatibily list,
each day some hacker around the world put togheter a new driver
for some strange hardware, so the list is never finished...

Davide

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: NEWBIE:  where are display resolutions??
Date: 6 Apr 2001 12:10:09 GMT

= Acetic = <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My question:  Where is the stupid display resolutions thing
> (ie 800x600, 1024x768, etc)??  I can't stand this largeness.

Usually if you use CTRL/ALT/+ and CTRL/ALT/- (the + and - of
the numeric keypad) you can increase and decrease the resolution.
See also the XFree86-HOWTO for information about how to fiddle
with the configuration.

> Also, I couldn't get it to multiboot with Win2k either.....

There are other posts around that will explain this. See the
old messages in this newsgroup. Go on www.linuxdoc.org and
have a look at the FAQ and the various HOW-TOs.

Davide

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Helmut Haefner)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Time server setup
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 12:13:16 GMT

Hello Kerry

On Thu, 05 Apr 2001 15:33:55 -0600, Kerry Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>I'm looking to create a ntpd or ntpdate time server running Red hat
>Linux for in-house use. I'm wondering what hardware module I need to
>purchase to run under Linux that could then connect to a GPS satellite
>and retrieve the exact time. 

Why do you want to use GPS. Also in the USA there are time-signals on
AM, and I think you can buy a RC-clock with a serial or parallel port
in the USA too. Here in Germany it costs ~20 U$ but this model will
work only in Germany and the included software only works for Windows.
I think any solution using GPS will cost a lot of more.

Greetings Helmut 

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From: Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Primary partition... on every HDD?
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 07:29:56 -0400

Darin Johnson wrote:
> 
> Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Not so whacky... assigning the letter "C" to the hard drive
> > is a thowback to when IBM PCs came with one or two floppy
> > disks.
> 
> I was referring to old UNIX (BSD variants anyway) scheme of partition
> C being the whole disk, where partitions A, B, D, etc, were contained
> within partition C.  Kind of wierd, and it wasn't enforced, it was
> just "convention".

Ah.. I didn't understand. No, I don't know why they'd be labelled
that way.

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From: Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Upgrading RH 6.2 to 7.0
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 07:33:46 -0400

Chris Coyle wrote:

> Personally, and I've heard others say, when moving to a
> new major release, you can avoid doubt and confusion by
> wiping the slate clean and doing a fresh install.

I seem to remember somewhere someone commenting that he did
an upgrade install from 6.2 to 7.0, and gdm kept dying
"mysteriously", and that this problem went away when he did
a clean install. I never did know why that should be. YMMV.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Lucas)
Subject: Slackware 7.1 invalid compressed format (err=2)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 12:39:00 GMT

Hello,
System: P233 MMX
RAM: 44 megs
HD:2.5 gig
ATAPI Cdrom.

I  just purchased the 4 cd set of Slackware 7.1, my only other
experience with linux was ZIPSLACK which ran in a windows partition.

When I try and boot the system off the cdrom I get an error message.
What I have done,

With my windows startup disk, I ran fdisk, created 1 primary dos
drive, formatted drive.

Changed bios to boot CDROM first.
got the boot: prompt

then,
Loading initrd.img.......
Loading vmlinuz.....
uncompressing Linux
invalid compressed format (err=2) or (err=1)
--system halted

at this moment I am re-installing windows :( and will try to set it up
via the instrux from the manual with windows installed.
I have tried other scenarios to setup Linux but the above one was what
I wrote down step for step.

I also had a bootdisk with the bare.i and will try that again.
any direction will be appreciated
thanx


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Need to Install Debian over a RedHat install but...
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 11:58:29 GMT

On Thu, 5 Apr 2001 21:15:40 -0400, "MKinn"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I have an old Dell optiplex GXi that does not allow me to boot from CD. I
>have upgraded the bios to vA05 from A00, and I am not offered a choice to
>"Boot from CD" in the boot sequence options.
>
>I need to reformat box and install Debian from my 3 Debian CD's.
>
>How would I do this ?

You can always fall back to the floppy install.  You'll need a minimum
of 2 floppies (if you are lucky), possibly 4/5 if not quite so lucky
and about 15 if you aren't lucky.  I've installed from floppies a
couple of times, and I can never get that FTP based install to work,
so end up using all the floppies.  Partially it's because I am behind
a fairly strict firewall.

Gord

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From: "Mikkel Jakobsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: chmod
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 14:53:26 +0200

Hello ...

I have put a new hdd into my linux box, it has  fat 32 , with a lot of
windows stuff on it. now i wont to "chmod" of one of the directoryes,
so that i can read and write to it, with  Samba 2.0.7.
but how do i chmod on a fat 32 hdd ?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

thanks .........




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From: Stanislaw Flatto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Slackware 7.1 invalid compressed format (err=2)
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 23:14:39 +1000

One by one.
a) if Windows are running, go to DOS-Prompt and format 2 (two) diskettes
noting that there are NO bad sectors on them.
b) When you have them create boot and root and start from begining.

Good luck.

Stanislaw.
Slack user from Ulladulla.

Bill Lucas wrote:

> Hello,
> System: P233 MMX
> RAM: 44 megs
> HD:2.5 gig
> ATAPI Cdrom.
>
> I  just purchased the 4 cd set of Slackware 7.1, my only other
> experience with linux was ZIPSLACK which ran in a windows partition.
>
> When I try and boot the system off the cdrom I get an error message.
> What I have done,
>
> With my windows startup disk, I ran fdisk, created 1 primary dos
> drive, formatted drive.
>
> Changed bios to boot CDROM first.
> got the boot: prompt
>
> then,
> Loading initrd.img.......
> Loading vmlinuz.....
> uncompressing Linux
> invalid compressed format (err=2) or (err=1)
> --system halted
>
> at this moment I am re-installing windows :( and will try to set it up
> via the instrux from the manual with windows installed.
> I have tried other scenarios to setup Linux but the above one was what
> I wrote down step for step.
>
> I also had a bootdisk with the bare.i and will try that again.
> any direction will be appreciated
> thanx


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From: Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: xfree86 4.0.3 installation
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 08:08:35 -0400

Topher Cawlfield wrote:

> I'm have two problems that I can't solve.  First, the font server,
> xfs, doesn't want to run as user xfs.

I probably can't help much here... you might look at
the syslog and see if any errors are being logged
(look at /etc/X11/fs/config to see if logging is
turned on, should be a line somewhere that says
"use-syslog=on").

> So when I su as user xfs, nothing happens.  Maybe this demonstrates
> nothing but my own stupidity, but I don't understand it.

This probably has nothing to do with your problem with xfs.
When you su to another user, the command prompt you see on
the screen comes from that user's login shell, which is set
in /etc/passwd. If you look at the /etc/passwd entry for
user "xfs", the last thing on that line is the login shell.
On my system, that's set to "/bin/false", which immediately
exits and returns back to the calling shell. This is a
security feature to keep anyone from logging in as xfs.

> As for hardware acceleration, I thought I'd try 4.0.3 because they
> claimed to get 3-D acceleration working for the G400.  As far as I
> can tell, I'm getting no 3D support with 4.0.3.  I couldn't find
> anything to try except looking at XF86Config-4 and playing with it a
> bit.  I didn't see anything suspicious though, and nothing seemed to
> help.  One thing I haven't tried yet is different color depths.  Right
> now I'm at 1600x1200, 24bpp.

Just upgrading to the 4.0x series is not sufficient to get
hardware acceleration... it's a combined process between
the X server, the kernel, and the required libs. For more
detailed info, read the README.DRI and README.DRIcomp
files in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/doc. However, the quick of it
is that you need a kernel module to talk to your hardware.
If you're running a recent kernel (I can't advise on versions,
because I don't know when it was introduced), there'll be a
section under "Character Devices" labelled "Direct Rendering
Manager (XFree86 DRI Support)". You must turn that on and also
turn on support for your G400 card as well. (The README.DRIcomp
file mentions using the DRI tree's kernel driver rather than
the one that's included in the kernel source, but I have had
success both ways, so I can't advise which is better. Using
the kernel's driver and the XFree86 libs keeps you from having
to download and compile the DRI source tree, which is pretty
large and which changes almost daily; many people have reported
problems compiling the tree after having been updated. The
DRI tree is in constant change, so if you can get by without
compiling it, you'll save yourself some headaches IMHO.)

Once you have the kernel support going, you need the libs
to do the rendering. Fortunately, they come with the
XF86 4.0x series, so you've probably already got them.
There was a question in the Xinstall.sh process mentioning
something about making links from /usr/lib to
/usr/X11R6/lib so that the GL libs would be visible to
the rest of the world. You should have done that. If you
didn't, then you need to make symbolic links from
/usr/lib/libGL.* to the corresponding libs in /usr/X11R6/lib.

One caveat: if you have old Mesa software-based libs installed,
remove them! You don't need them, and they can (and did in my
case, and almost drove me crazy) keep the hardware-accelerated
rendering from working. If you're using Red Hat, do "rpm -q
Mesa" to see if it's installed, and if it is, do "rpm -e (whatever)"
to get rid of it. If you do get rid of it, re-install 4.0.2
then 4.0.3 to be safe.

Hope this helps.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: Any help for XFree86-4.0.2?
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 13:05:15 -0000

On Wed, 04 Apr 2001 17:45:51 +0800, OrangeDino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have upgraded my XFree86-3.3.6 to 4.0.2 with rpms for Redhat Linux. 
> But it does not contain any driver for my display card (SiS 6326) and it 
> can only use the SVGA X-server of 3.3.6 to drive my card.  Is it the 
> XFree86-4.0.x rpms for Redhat does not contain any display driver and 
> you should use the 3.3.6 X-server as driver?
> Anyway if I startx, only gnome can be startup while kde2.1 cannot.  Even 
> in gnome I cannot run any kde application.
> When I exit X-window, it cannot startx again before I reboot.
> It said that there is error with the font path "unix:\7100".
> I use the XFree86-4.0.2 rpms for Redhat 6.x.
> Can anyone give some ideas what wrong with me.
> Thanks for your kindly concern!
> 

The SiS website may be of some help.  I had one system with this type of
video card and gave up on the card even after loading the SiS drivers. 
Unfortunately, the video was integrated on the motherboard.  I ended up
installing this other "operating system" on it and giving it to my daughter. 
The other OS worked okay on it. My lesson learned was not to buy barebones
systems with any integrated.  Now I buy the pieces and build them.

-- 
Michael Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Olivier Colliot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ATI Radeon
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 15:09:12 +0200

Hi

Does anybody know a distribution that supports ATI Radeon

Thanks

Olivier



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