Linux-Setup Digest #83, Volume #21               Sat, 21 Apr 01 07:13:06 EDT

Contents:
  Re: --MARK-- ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: lpr broken, instant error message ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: promise FastTrak (Mark Meytin)
  Re: promise FastTrak (Mark Meytin)
  Re: Instal from ios ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: XFSetup config file error ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Please help: /dev/rft0 not found (Juergen Pfann)
  loading modules (ThomasWalz)
  loading modules (ThomasWalz)
  RedHat 6.2 Kenel compiling ? ("Bo")
  Re: Arrrgh!  Why can't I install RH 7.1 ? ("Johnny Luong")
  Re: Cant ftp into machine ("Peter T. Breuer")
  slackware 7.1 hangs on install ("James")
  Re: Red hat 7.1 can't detect my lan card............ ("James")
  Re: XFSetup config file error (Dougie Richardson)
  Re: Arrrgh!  Why can't I install RH 7.1 ? ("Roy Bamford")

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: --MARK--
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 08:10:02 +0200

Mark Swope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm a little curious about when this became "default" behavior - perhaps
> it's just a
> Slackware peculiarity, but I've used Slackware for several years including
> v4.0 (version just before 7.0) and never saw this.

Let's check my s/w 3.0:

 DESCRIPTION
     Syslogd reads and logs messages to the system console, log files, other
     machines and/or users as specified by its configuration file.  The op-
     tions are as follows:
     -f      Specify the pathname of an alternate configuration file; the de-
             fault is /etc/syslog.conf.
     -m      Select the number of minutes between ``mark'' messages; the de-
             fault is 20 minutes.


> Since this box is just something for a "client" box to talk to, there's not
> much else going on (I'm actually testing the client, not the server) and
> this message does tend to fill up the messages log.

Uh, at 20 characters every 20 mins, it would take a million minutes to
generate even a megabyte of data. That's a year. Forget it.

Peter

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lpr broken, instant error message
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 08:19:09 +0200

Mike Knudsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Peter T. Breuer"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>>It's not something you need to look up. You need to edit /etc/hosts and
>>add an entry for yourself. Something like
>>
>>  123.456.100.234 delally.loop.com delally

> Well, I already had 127.0.0.1 localhost -- do I need that additional line?  And

That's not an entry for your machine. That's the entry for the loopback
interface, which exists on ALL machines.

> what numbers should I put in the routing field?  Make up something?

Yes. You need an IP number and a hostname for a machine! What use is it
if it isn't connected to the net? If it's only on the net part time,
then use the "dummy0" interface (ifconfig dummy0 123.456.100.1) and
make up a hostname for yourself (hostname me.mine.net) and add the
appropriate entry to /etc/hosts, along the lines of the model above.
You should be using something in the 192.168.X.Y block, as that safely
doesn't route, and is fine for a machine that doesn't have an official
DNS entry.

>>Well, you could try telnetting to localhost.

> OK, and see if telnet even exists on my system.  ifconfig and route do not.

You need to install them.

>>It is to lpr. /dev/lp0 is a character device! Printers print
>>characters.

> OK, I looked again and it's char-major-10-135.  I musthave thought that was
> just a version number.  So char-major is part of the character handling
> drivers?  Yours is the first I've ever been able to find any mention of it, and

Char is the driver group. Major-10 is the major number of the
device involved. 135 is the device minor. Modprobe is complaining that
somebody is trying to use a device with those characteristics, and 
is knows of no driver that it should load for it.

It appears to be the realtime clock. 

  cr--r--r--   1 root     root      10, 135 May 30  1996 /dev/rtc

apparently your kernel lacks support for it, but you have something
that periodically looks at it. It's just an advisory. Can the rtc.o
stuff be built as a module? You might want to just alias it to "off"
in modules.conf.

Peter

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From: Mark Meytin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.comp.linux
Subject: Re: promise FastTrak
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 02:29:09 -0400

I'm having the same problem - e-mailed Promise for help but haven't
gotten
a response yet.  I'm trying to install RH 7.1 on a dual PIII-800EB
MSI 694D Pro-AR motherboard with on-board FastTrak 100 controller
and two-drive Raid 0.  Anyone has any ideas?  TIA,

-M-

Larry Snyder wrote:

> Anyone have any luck with getting their Promise RAID (onboard ASUS)
> controller working with RedHat 7.1/Mandrake (ie: 2.4.X kernel)
>
> I tried the Promise Linux RH 7 driver with 7.1 without luck..
>
> Larry
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: Mark Meytin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.comp.linux
Subject: Re: promise FastTrak
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 02:29:09 -0400

I'm having the same problem - e-mailed Promise for help but haven't
gotten
a response yet.  I'm trying to install RH 7.1 on a dual PIII-800EB
MSI 694D Pro-AR motherboard with on-board FastTrak 100 controller
and two-drive Raid 0.  Anyone has any ideas?  TIA,

-M-

Larry Snyder wrote:

> Anyone have any luck with getting their Promise RAID (onboard ASUS)
> controller working with RedHat 7.1/Mandrake (ie: 2.4.X kernel)
>
> I tried the Promise Linux RH 7 driver with 7.1 without luck..
>
> Larry
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Instal from ios
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 08:26:03 +0200

tshiker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi I just downloaded Mandrake 8.0 and burnt it to a cd-r. That was the 

What makes you think you did? Did you read the instructions on the
download site about how to burn an iso image? You do know the
difference between burning a cd with files, and burning it with an iso
image, right???

Peter

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: XFSetup config file error
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 08:24:37 +0200

In comp.os.linux.setup JD Elliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I tried to run XF86Setup tonight and was asked:

Isn't it xf86config?

> "Would you like to use the existing XF86Config file for defaults?"

> I said yes. Then I was greeted with:

Why? Did you have one?

> "Error encountered reading existing configuration file."

Apparently you didn't. Looks a perfectly sane response to an insane
request to me!

> OK. I'm running Slackware 7.0. I tried to run the XF86Config file itself. I

Oh, so it kindly generated one for you!

> got all kinds of "command not found" errors.

Of course. It's not an executable file. It doesn't contain comands,.
just data. Looking at it would have been sensible!

> Anyone run into this? Help would be gratefully received.  Meanwhile, it's

What's the problem?

(hint: reread the above and deduce that nothing is wrong! Rerun XF86Setup
if you don't believe me - and please answer "NO" when NO is the right
answer!)

Peter

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From: Juergen Pfann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.config,redhat.general
Subject: Re: Please help: /dev/rft0 not found
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 08:59:10 +0200

Bill Swisher wrote:
> 
> Erik Veenstra wrote:
> 
> > "H.A.J. van Niekerk" wrote:
> >
> > mknod /dev/rft0 c 27 0
> 
> And if that fails....I had to build the ftape into the kernel.  Would not
> work as a module.  Exact same error.  I reported it to RH at one time via a
> bug report doohickie (at the request of someone from RH) and got no response.
> 

IMHO, everyone who is *really using* ftape should not use the version 
included in the source tree - which is v. 3.0.4d, according to the 
release notes (just checked that for 2.2.18 and 2.4.2), but the 
4.x from freshmeat or elsewhere. 
To be honest, it's been quite some time since I compiled this, so I 
don't remember, if you just build the resp. modules, or if your 
/usr/src/linux/drivers/char/ftape will be replaced by the newer 
version. 
Anyway, since then, the driver looks much more stable to me, with 
my Conner/seagate TR-1 drive. 
And the nice thing about it, the new package adds handy tools, such 
as a different "mt" called "ftmt", and a tape formatting tool that 
apparently works well (finally... ;-) ).

Juergen

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Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 09:07:37 +0000
From: ThomasWalz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: loading modules


While trying to load modules for instance
insmod loop
i got the error message
/lib/modules/2.2.16-22/block/loop.o unresolved symbol  kernelflag
/lib/modules/2.2.16-22/block/loop.o unresolved symbol  waitqueue_lock

What does this error message means exactly?

In the past i solved such problems by recomiling the kernel
( make bzlilo ) and all modules ( make modules modules_install ). But
this
time i doesn't work.


What would be an approbiate way to solve such a problems?

I am using RH Linux 6.4 Kernel 2.2.16-22.

Please send your response to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks in advance and kind regards,

Thomas
~

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Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 09:08:22 +0000
From: ThomasWalz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: loading modules


While trying to load modules for instance
insmod loop
i got the error message
/lib/modules/2.2.16-22/block/loop.o unresolved symbol  kernelflag
/lib/modules/2.2.16-22/block/loop.o unresolved symbol  waitqueue_lock

What does this error message means exactly?

In the past i solved such problems by recomiling the kernel
( make bzlilo ) and all modules ( make modules modules_install ). But
this
time i doesn't work.


What would be an approbiate way to solve such a problems?

I am using RH Linux 6.4 Kernel 2.2.16-22.

Please send your response to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks in advance and kind regards,

Thomas
~

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From: "Bo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RedHat 6.2 Kenel compiling ?
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 10:03:29 +0200

I try to compiling kernel on RedHat linux 6.2 but with no success.

I did everything by the book and still nothing happen.

Can anyone help me with this?

Thanks



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From: "Johnny Luong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arrrgh!  Why can't I install RH 7.1 ?
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 01:28:47 -0700
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.redhat

In article <9bqr8e$t3h$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Gil Adamson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

If your worried about a bad download, verify that
your md5sum of the iso is the same as the md5sum from
redhat's site.

> I have a P-166 that is a dual-boot Win98/RedHat 6.2 system.  (Windows is
> on hda, Linux on hdb)  I've been trying to upgrade hdb to RedHat 7.1 . 
> So I downloaded the Disc 1, Disc 2, and Powertools ISO  images and
> burned them onto 80-minute CDs - no problem.  I then put Disc 1 in my
> P-166 and booted right into the Linux setup - so far so good.  I told it
> to upgrade my existing setup, picked all the custom packages I wanted to
> install, and set it going.  However, much later (after I had switched
> from Disc 1 to Disc 2), it told me that it couldn't read one of the RPM
> package files ("press Enter to try again").  Repeatedly pressing enter
> didn't help.  With no other option to abort the installation, I had to
> eventually turn the machine off (and reboot into the old RH 6.2 so fsck
> could fix the partition mess that the unclean powerdown had left.)  I
> thought my Disc2 was defective, so I downloaded a Disc 2 image again
> (from a different site) and burned it onto another CD.  I started the
> installation process again, but it failed again.  However *THIS* time,
> it failed on an RPM that had *worked* the first time.  Again, I had to
> power down.  So I thought maybe I shouldn't have burned the ISO images
> onto 80 minute CDs.  So I tried it again, but this time using regular
> 74-minute CDs. Again, I tried to install.  Again it failed, on yet a
> *different* RPM.  So I figured that the problem was with my CD-ROM.   So
> I installed a webserver on another computer in my house, loaded the CD
> contents onto that computer, booted the P-166 with the netboot image,
> and told it to install over HTTP.  This worked for a while, until my
> HTTP server hicupped for a few minutes.  I restarted the server, but the
> RH 7.1 Installation process (after apparently not getting the package it
> wanted from the server) froze up and never resumed the network
> installation. (again, with no apparent way to abort the installation or
> tell it to re-query the HTTP server, I had to shut it down)
> Basically ALL my attempts to install have failed in one of two ways: 1)
> a message about an RPM file that can't be read, or 2) the graphical
> installation process suddenly spits out text messages that say "install
> exited abnormally - received signal 15", followed by some process
> termination/kill messages, filesystem unmounts, and "it is safe to
> reboot your system."
> Can anyone give me some guidance what the problem is here?  I didn't
> THINK I had a bad CD-ROM drive (never had trouble with it before) - what
> else might it be?
> Thanks to all who can help.
>

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cant ftp into machine
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:53:56 +0200

Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am trying to log in as a regular user. And that user
> is listed in /etc/ftpusers.

Then he can't log in. That's what the file is for!

#
# ftpusers      This file describes the names of the users that may
#               _*NOT*_ log into the system via the FTP server.
#               This usually includes "root", "uucp", "news" and the
#               like, because those users have too much power to be
#               allowed to do "just" FTP...


> I dont even get a login prompt. The connection is
> refused before a prompt is issued.

Then start ftp without giving a user name. (ftp -n). Use the user
command in ftp to set it to something allowed.


Peter

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From: "James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: slackware 7.1 hangs on install
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:11:49 +0200

Hi !

I'm trying to install slackware 7.1 on an old 386 with 8mb ram. I can boot
with the bare.i bootdisk, but I can't  log in using the color.gz rootdisk.
The text.gz rootdisk lets me log in as root, but when I then execute a
command such as fdisk nothing happens. I don't get a prompt any more for
hours and no activity is noticeable. The machine does not have a cdrom
drive, so I have to install over ftp. I tried to follow the instructions in
the 4-mb-laptop-howto and wanted to copy the unzipped  rootdisk contents on
the hard drive (210 mb), but I had trouble with mulinux and mkfs.ext2 and
"unsupported filesystems" on the floppies I created with the mke2fs of RH
7.0.

Will slackware 7.1 install at all with 8 mb on this machine? Any other ideas
of how to get it installed?

Any help appreciated!

James



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From: "James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red hat 7.1 can't detect my lan card............
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:18:58 +0200

linux initializes afaik only one ethernet card during installation. you have
to do the rest more or less by hand i guess. the easiest thing might be to
do it with a loadable module. see whether the manufacturer gives any
instructions on this, otherwise try to figure out what chipset the card has.
there should be resources on the internet telling you which module you need
for which chipset.

James

"kenneth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9bpbdv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> hi everyone ,
> i have install red hat 7.1, but it fail to detect my network cards
(buffalo
> lc13-txi) one is connet to cable modem and other is connect to another
> computer in lan , how can i configurate my network card correctly ? thx
>
>
>



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From: Dougie Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: XFSetup config file error
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:52:01 +0100

JD Elliott wrote:

> I tried to run XF86Setup tonight and was asked:
> 
> "Would you like to use the existing XF86Config file for defaults?"
> 
> I said yes. Then I was greeted with:

Say no?! Make a new one...

> OK. I'm running Slackware 7.0. I tried to run the XF86Config file itself.
> I got all kinds of "command not found" errors.

XF86Config is not executable, XConfigurator or xf86setup are.

Try using xf86config, though you need details about your card (what make 
and model/ chipset and video ram), where your mouse is connected 
(/dev/mouse for serial, /dev/psaux for PS/2) and the horizontal and 
vertical refresh rates for your monitor.

-- 
Dougie Richardson      //================================
                               //                 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
=================//                http://www.incarnate.uklinux.net

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Reply-To: "Roy Bamford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Roy Bamford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Arrrgh!  Why can't I install RH 7.1 ?
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:57:32 +0100

Gil,

My sympathies are with you.

I have been through what you describe except that I used expert mode for the
upgrade and was able to skip RPMS that the system complained about. After I
got to the end of the upgrade, with some RPMs skipped the system wouldn't
boot. Since I dual boot using the NT bootloader that wasn't exactly a
surprise.

After starting with loadlin, and running Xconfigurator, X wouldn't come up
at all.
>From the command line run RPM to verify the whole system and pipe the output
to a file. That will show you what you need to fix.
I was left with a lot of incompatible bits and had no option but to download
individual RPMs and do upgrades. to put the system back together.
I'm going to try a clean install on another PC shortly.

Regards,

Roy Bamford
--
There are two classes of computer users,
those who do backups and
those who have never had a hard drive fail.
Anon.

"Gil Adamson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9bqr8e$t3h$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have a P-166 that is a dual-boot Win98/RedHat 6.2 system.  (Windows is
on
> hda, Linux on hdb)  I've been trying to upgrade hdb to RedHat 7.1 .
>
> So I downloaded the Disc 1, Disc 2, and Powertools ISO  images and burned
> them onto 80-minute CDs - no problem.  I then put Disc 1 in my P-166 and
> booted right into the Linux setup - so far so good.
>
> I told it to upgrade my existing setup, picked all the custom packages I
> wanted to install, and set it going.  However, much later (after I had
> switched from Disc 1 to Disc 2), it told me that it couldn't read one of
the
> RPM package files ("press Enter to try again").  Repeatedly pressing enter
> didn't help.  With no other option to abort the installation, I had to
> eventually turn the machine off (and reboot into the old RH 6.2 so fsck
> could fix the partition mess that the unclean powerdown had left.)
>
> I thought my Disc2 was defective, so I downloaded a Disc 2 image again
(from
> a different site) and burned it onto another CD.  I started the
installation
> process again, but it failed again.  However *THIS* time, it failed on an
> RPM that had *worked* the first time.  Again, I had to power down.
>
> So I thought maybe I shouldn't have burned the ISO images onto 80 minute
> CDs.  So I tried it again, but this time using regular 74-minute CDs.
> Again, I tried to install.  Again it failed, on yet a *different* RPM.
>
> So I figured that the problem was with my CD-ROM.   So I installed a
> webserver on another computer in my house, loaded the CD contents onto
that
> computer, booted the P-166 with the netboot image, and told it to install
> over HTTP.  This worked for a while, until my HTTP server hicupped for a
few
> minutes.  I restarted the server, but the RH 7.1 Installation process
(after
> apparently not getting the package it wanted from the server) froze up and
> never resumed the network installation. (again, with no apparent way to
> abort the installation or tell it to re-query the HTTP server, I had to
shut
> it down)
>
> Basically ALL my attempts to install have failed in one of two ways:
> 1) a message about an RPM file that can't be read, or
> 2) the graphical installation process suddenly spits out text messages
that
> say "install exited abnormally - received signal 15", followed by some
> process termination/kill messages, filesystem unmounts, and "it is safe to
> reboot your system."
>
> Can anyone give me some guidance what the problem is here?  I didn't THINK
I
> had a bad CD-ROM drive (never had trouble with it before) - what else
might
> it be?
>
> Thanks to all who can help.
>
>



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