Linux-Setup Digest #96, Volume #21               Mon, 23 Apr 01 11:13:18 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Red Hat 7.0 & Lilo (Norman Levin)
  Re: What file do I edit to make 'switchdesk' see a newly-installed KDE  (Norman 
Levin)
  Re: which is the better linux distribution? (Christian Celecia)
  Re: LILO bootmenu w/ diff. kernels (Jagged)
  Q: LILO on hddg (ide 5) can it be done? ("t i g s")
  Re: Interesting failure rebooting LINUX (James Knott)
  Re: Cannot Mount floppy as Non-root User (Cory Phillips)
  Re: How do I change Screen Resolution in Gnome or KDE ("John G")
  Re: Any way to set up Linux so that changing the IDE channel of the HD doesn't 
require surgery? ("Peter T. Breuer")
  AIC SCSI adapters ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: ln swapper task - not syncing ("Eric Stockbridge")
  IOMEGA ZIP + RedHat (Marvin)
  Re: IOMEGA ZIP + RedHat ("Snowman")
  Re: which is the better linux distribution? (Rod Smith)
  Re: I'm Impressed! (Rand Simberg)
  Re: IOMEGA ZIP + RedHat (Rene van Paassen)
  Re: Installation Frustration (H/W Problem?) (Rand Simberg)
  Re: LILO on hddg (ide 5) can it be done? ("Troy Dack")
  Re: I'm Impressed! (H.Bruijn)
  Re: Packages v. Source (Matthias)
  Re: Installing Redhat 7.0 ("KW")
  Re: installing Red Hat 7.1 ("KW")
  Re: Redhat Installation from Hard Drive ("KW")

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Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 20:49:15 -0500
From: Norman Levin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux
Subject: Re: Red Hat 7.0 & Lilo

Markku Tikkanen wrote:
> 
> Elem103 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hmm.. i did this about a year ago.  Hope i still remember how to do it ..
> > properly.  Anyway, i think this is what i did.
> 
> > I made sure that everything is in the first 1024 cylinders of the hard
> > drive, due to the use of old lilo.
> 
> Well, the partitions you have are basically the same way I'm having - with
> the exception that my first linux partition (/boot) is waaaay beyond the
> 1024 limit. Somewhere was said that newer lilo's can boot beyond the limit
> - but I didn't check that is it included in RH7...

** Yes the new lilo can boot above the 1024 line **BUT** it requires a bios
that recognizes certain calls - usually these bios are 1998 and newer.
Having the latest software isn't going to help if it needs a hardware feature.
> 
> BTW: how much is 1k cylinders in GB's? Or does it depend on HD in use?
> 8 Gigs?
> 
> > Well, i have not tested lilo much, so i can't really say.  Most of the time,
> > i just made sure that my boot partition is above 1024.
>                                              -----
> You mean below?
> 
> I think my problems are all because of having about 24 Gigs of Fat32
> -partitions in beginning of drive. And, I'm having the drive on HPT370
> conroller (KT7-RAID)
> 
> Perhaps I try not to get blood out of my nose (a finnish way of saying)
> and create a 16-meg /boot -partition at the beginning of the drive.
> 
> thanks for your concern, Elem.
> 
>         tiki
> 
> (ahh, the spring is coming! ...how about there? ;] )

-- 
Norman Levin

"In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: 'Come the millennium, month 12, in the home of
greatest power, the village idiot will come forth to be acclaimed the
leader.'"



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Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 21:19:32 -0500
From: Norman Levin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: What file do I edit to make 'switchdesk' see a newly-installed KDE 

Guy Parry wrote:
> 
>  Could someone who has installed KDE 2 on a RH 7.0 distro please give
> me a little help?  I've gotten all the required rpm's on my HDD
> without any hassles, but I've since found 3 differing posts on how to
> do the rest to get it to run.
>        One says to edit .xinitrc, but of course, RH 7 uses .Xclients
> instead.  I would like to do it so I can change from Gnome to KDE
> using good ol' Switchdesk at the console(!)...rather than having to
> edit a file/s manually every time I want to change managers...
** you can use "switchdesk kde" at a graphic screen
OR you can use "switchdesk-helper kde" at a text console.


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From: Christian Celecia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: which is the better linux distribution?
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:15:03 +0200

That is the main question that all users asks themselves and unfortunately like a
lot of questions out their is no clear cut answer. My suggestion is install and
play around with the two of them and then decide. We run Redhat but as I said I
would never say that Redhat is better than other Linux flavours... Its just the
one we decided upon.

Sorry I cannot be more precise.

Stanislaw Flatto wrote:

> edwin wrote:
>
> > i'm currently using win98.  i would like to switch to a linux platform, i
> > may not want to have dual boot ie i may not want to install win98 on my
> > machine.
> > i'm choosing between mandrake 8.0 or redhat 7.1
> > please advise.  i'm using for development purposes eg c++ and java.
>
> As the other poster suggested don't burn the bridges as yet.
> For serious compiling work I would suggest a distribution which has better
> quality control than Red/Hat and its cousin Mandrake. Those are showy and you
> need something that has checked libraries and compilers.
>
> Just a suggestion. (No names)
>
> Stanislaw.
> Slack user from Ulladulla.

--
Mr C N Celecia IENG AMBCS
Information Systems Engineer
GNC Networks Ltd
Tel : +350 52236
Fax : +350 43333

Kites rise highest against the wind - not with it.
Winston Churchill, Sir (1874-1965)



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From: Jagged <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO bootmenu w/ diff. kernels
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:34:35 +0200



Query_String wrote:

>
> > Now, first i tried to switch to 2.2.18 by chosing point 1 from the LILO
> > menu, but it still didn't work. `uname -a` still says "Linux ruth
> > 2.4.2-4GB #1 [...]". The first LILO entry is supposed to load
> > /boot/vmlinuz, the second /boot/vmlinuz_24, and the third
> > /boot/vmlinuz.suse. All are of the same size, and `diff vmlinuz
> > vmlinuz_24` says there is a difference, while vmlinuz_24 and
> > vmlinuz.suse are reported as being identical.
>
>   [post & mail]
>
>   You may have aimed Lilo at the same kernel (2.4).
>
>   vmlinuz is the 'last' kernel installed, vmlinuz.suse
>   is a dire-straits backup of the same thing.
>
>   If kermnel 2.4 was last then all 3 of them are the same!
>

but read above. there was a difference between vmlinuz and vmlinuz.suse
(implied by a diff between vmlinuz and vmlinuz_24 and vmlinuz_24 and
vmlinuz.suse being identical)

>
>   What I do is install say 2.2.18 and then name vmlinuz
>   vmlin2218 and vmlinuz.suse to vmbak2218 and delete
>   anything else (not the numbered map files though!).
>
>   Then install 2.4.2 and repeat the above with 242.
>
>   2.2.18 & 2.4.2 are not the same size at all.
>

what i did themn was copying vmlinuz to vmlinuz.oldd, and then installing
kernel 2.2.18 again, but all i get with uname and kernelversion is 2.4 :-(
probably the distribution site provides wrong installation data? i should
check it back with another site...

>
>   I wish they'd upgrade their naming practices; i.e.
>   kern2218 and kern2218bak would say 'something',
>   vmlinuz and vmlinuz.suse both say absolutely nothing.
>   their
>
>   HTH://
>
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From: "t i g s" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Q: LILO on hddg (ide 5) can it be done?
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 22:55:06 +1000

Hi all

For reasons too long to discuss, I have four IDE controllers in my PC with
the following disks attached:

IDE1/0 - CDROM
IDE2/0 - CDRW
IDE3/0 - ATA/100 15Gb HDD
IDE3/1 - ATA/100 30Gb HDD
IDE4/0 - ATA/100 20Gb HDD

My question is simple to ask (but maybe tricky to answer :) :-

Can I install LILO in the MBR of IDE4/0 if I use another boot-strapper
(BootMagic) to point to it?

My BIOS is clever enough to boot off any of the drives, I currently have it
booting from IDE3/0. Attempts to install LILO to IDE4/0 so far have just
resulted in the LI... hanging boot of death.

The only disk I want to mess with for Linux is IDE4/0, I do not want to
create a /boot partition or install LILO on any of the other disks and
booting from a floppy is a bit retro for me.

Anyone got any suggestions?

ALSO - When will we be rid of LILO? It has served us well but it is a bit
limited for today's systems don't we think?

Reply by email appreciated. Thanks :)
Mark
tigs@[spam.me.not]zip.com.au





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From: James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Interesting failure rebooting LINUX
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 13:14:17 GMT

Salim Douba wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> This is a peculiarly interesting problem. I am trying to install linux on my
> laptop. Things go extremely well during installation. The system reboots
> successfully (from hard disk) upon finishing the install and is fully
> usable. Subsequent reboots however, fail to bring up the system. I don't
> even get to the point of seeing the Linux boot prompt. Instead BIOS prompts
> me with a message that there is no valid bootable partition on my disk. For
> now, I am rebooting from a boot floppy. But I would really appreciate being
> able to boot from the hard disk.

Did you install LILO on the MBR?

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To reply, replace everything to the left of "@" with "james.knott".


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cory Phillips)
Subject: Re: Cannot Mount floppy as Non-root User
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 23 Apr 2001 08:15:53 -0600

Thanks, but it didn't fix my problem.

I forgot to mention; this is the really weird part.  When the disk is a
vfat format, I can mount and write to it as non-root.  When the disk is
in ext2 format, I get the problems listed below and a non-root user
can't write to it eventhough it was mounted by the non-root user.

On 22 Apr 2001 13:21:56 GMT, Edwin Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>As root look at the privileges with ls -l /dev/fd0 and you will probably
>find it doesn't contain write for anyone but root. Just use chmod to change
>it to something like 666.
>
>...Edwin
>
>On 22 Apr 2001 08:12:57 -0600, Cory Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>>Actually the subject is not entirely true.  I can mount the floppy with
>>a non-root account, but the privileges are wrong and I can't write to
>>it.
>>
>>In the file /etc/fstab I have the following entry:
>>/dev/fd0  /mnt/floppy  auto  user,suid,noauto  0 0
>>
>>(Perhaps it's the suid option causing my problem?)
>>
>>In the file /etc/filesystems I have the following entries:
>>ext2
>>iso9660
>>vfat
>>
>>Here are the permissions on the floppy before a mount.
>>
>>drwxrwxr-x   2 root     users        1024 Oct  9  1998 cdrom/
>>drwxrwxr-x   2 root     users        1024 Feb  6  1996 floppy/
>>drwxr-xr-x   5 root     root         1024 Apr 20 19:32 slave/
>>drwxr-xr-x   2 root     root         1024 Apr  6 10:51 win98/
>>
>>
>>
>>Here are the permissions on the floppy after mount w/ non-root account.
>>Notice the group changes from users to root.
>>
>>drwxrwxr-x   2 root     users        1024 Oct  9  1998 cdrom/
>>drwxr-xr-x   3 root     root         1024 Apr 22 08:04 floppy/
>>drwxr-xr-x   5 root     root         1024 Apr 20 19:32 slave/
>>drwxr-xr-x   2 root     root         1024 Apr  6 10:51 win98/
>>
>>
>>
>>-- 
>>Cory Phillips
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>-- 
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>~   Edwin Johnson ....... [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ~
>~        http://www.shreve.net/~elj       ~
>~                                         ~
>~ "Once you have flown, you will walk the ~
>~ earth with your eyes turned skyward,    ~
>~ for there you have been, there you long ~
>~ to return." -- da Vinci                 ~
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>


-- 
Cory Phillips
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: "John G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I change Screen Resolution in Gnome or KDE
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 23:25:46 +1000

thanks for the replies. Believe me, while Bill has quite a firm grip, I am
determined to wriggle free!!

John

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9boums$ag6p3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Joeri Sebrechts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > No need to scare him back to the land of Bill.
>
> 'the land of Bill' ?? USA ?
>
> > Just, as root, backup /etc/X11/XF86Config (no guarantees that the path
> > is correct) and run XF86Setup from the prompt. It'll do just as nicely.
>
> It never worked for me... I had to tinker with the configuration
> by hand, anyway wasn't so 'scaring' and if you never start to
> look into the configuration files, you will never learn how to
> fix the problems when these kind of 'setup tools' won't work...
> (IMHO of course).
>
> Davide



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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Any way to set up Linux so that changing the IDE channel of the HD 
doesn't require surgery?
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:11:28 +0200

Lucius Chiaraviglio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Lucius Chiaraviglio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> I would like to know how to prepare a Linux installation so that if the hard
>>> drive is moved from the primary IDE channel to the secondary IDE channel
>>> doesn't require surgery to re-enable the operating system.  The reason for
>>
>>Nothings required except editing fstab and lilo.conf once you're done
>>with the move (and rerunning lilo).

>       Um, that's what I was talking about.  I have to do this every time I
> move the hard disk to a machine of different configuration.  Does any way
> exist to fix this once and for all, so that I never have to worry about it on
> subsequent moves?  I would like for both Lilo and the operating system to be

Would you mind telling me how the psychic medium is going to work?

> able to find the boot disk and work without any further interference.

Peter

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: AIC SCSI adapters
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 13:41:54 GMT

I'm looking to install RH 7.1 on a server. The SCSI host adapters are
giving me hassles though. Anyone know where I can go to find any info
on this?

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From: "Eric Stockbridge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: ln swapper task - not syncing
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 13:48:47 GMT


"scotth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9c0io9$9d0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello all.
> I installed Redhat Linux on my AMD Duron 700 with 128mb of PC133 memory.
> After the installation was completed successfully, and the system
rebooted,
> I got a kernel panic and the following error message
> "ln swapper task - not syncing "
> I have a swap partition of 128mb.
> Can anyone please help me?
> Thanks
> Scott
> --
I am having the same problem on an AMD thunderbird 1.2 with 256mb PC133
I would love to know how to fix it.....
please
Eric



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From: Marvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: IOMEGA ZIP + RedHat
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:52:17 +0200

Hi

I have a very simple question. I got installed IOMega 100MB ZIP into PC 
running RedHat 6.2. How can I setup this into redhat and how can I use 
it ?

Thanks

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From: "Snowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: IOMEGA ZIP + RedHat
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 13:59:24 GMT

There's a mini-howto on www.linux.org under documentation that outlines how
to do this.  worked well for me at least.

"Marvin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi
>
> I have a very simple question. I got installed IOMega 100MB ZIP into PC
> running RedHat 6.2. How can I setup this into redhat and how can I use
> it ?
>
> Thanks



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: which is the better linux distribution?
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:03:21 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Posted and mailed]

In article <9c10bq$4l0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        "edwin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> i'm currently using win98.  i would like to switch to a linux platform, i
> may not want to have dual boot ie i may not want to install win98 on my
> machine.
> i'm choosing between mandrake 8.0 or redhat 7.1
> please advise.  i'm using for development purposes eg c++ and java.

You may want to check my distributions Web page:

http://www.rodsbooks.com/distribs/

Both Mandrake 8.0 and RH 7.1 are brand new, and I've not yet had a
chance to update my Web page to reflect these differences. (In fact,
I've not used either updated version yet.) The big difference is that
they both now ship with a 2.4.x kernel rather than the older 2.2.x
kernels.

-- 
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rand Simberg)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: I'm Impressed!
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:17:04 GMT

On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 09:38:17 +0200, in a place far, far away,
"michael.fengler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made the phosphor on my monitor glow
in such a way as to indicate that:

>On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, Rand Simberg wrote:
>
>-- much snipped --
>
>>Now the question is, should I put up with the slow speed of the
>>system?
>>
>>It's just a firewall, and the performance will be more than adequate
>>for that task.  But it will be a PITA to do kernel upgrades and such,
>>and I really don't have any other pressing task for the Pentium
>>system, so it could do the job.
>
>You could compile kernels etc on a faster machine and transfer
>the results via network. It#s been a long time since my 486 had to
>compile its own kernel... though that gave me the time to read
>a good book :)

That's true--I hadn't thought of it.  I have this superstition that a
kernel won't work unless built on the machine on which it will run.
:-)

But back to my question--is an 8MHz 486 fast enough to not be a
firewall bottleneck on a DSL connection?



-- 
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interglobal space lines  * 307 733-1715 (Fax) http://www.interglobal.org 

"Extraordinary launch vehicles require extraordinary markets..."
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From: Rene van Paassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: IOMEGA ZIP + RedHat
Date: 23 Apr 2001 16:17:37 +0200

Marvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi
> 
> I have a very simple question. I got installed IOMega 100MB ZIP into PC 
> running RedHat 6.2. How can I setup this into redhat and how can I use 
> it ?
> 
> Thanks
Assuming you have installed an IDE ZIP (not a parallel port or USB
one), and say you have installed it on the secondary ide interface of
the second controller, then it will show up as hdd4 (older models) or
simply as hdd. Now make a symbolic link to the zip drive, 

cd /dev
ln -s hdd4 zip

And tell your system that it needs the ide-floppy driver for the zip,
add the line 

        alias /dev/zip ide-floppy

to your modules.conf (Oops, that might be conf.modules in redhat 6.2),
and do 

depmod -a

and then try to mount it somewhere with the mount command. 



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rand Simberg)
Subject: Re: Installation Frustration (H/W Problem?)
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:18:18 GMT

On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 04:51:50 -0400, in a place far, far away, Steve
Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made the phosphor on my monitor glow in
such a way as to indicate that:


>It's unclear from your message whether this is a purchased machine
>or one you built. 

Cobbled together from stuff lying around.

>Some things I'd check on the hardware level are
>(1) is the drive the only drive in the system, and is the drive
>jumpered properly according to its status (master, slave, only);
>(2) is the cable seated securely on each end; and (3) are you sure
>there is nothing else using the same IRQ as the controller? IRQs
>are usually 14 for the primary IDE controller and 15 for the
>secondary; if something else is using the IRQ that your controller
>is using, it'll cause fits when accessing the disk.

It turned out to be a bad IDE cable.

Thanx.

-- 
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interglobal space lines  * 307 733-1715 (Fax) http://www.interglobal.org 

"Extraordinary launch vehicles require extraordinary markets..."
Replace first . with @ and throw out the "@trash." to email me.  
Here's my email address for autospammers: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: "Troy Dack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: LILO on hddg (ide 5) can it be done?
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:27:20 GMT

You could look into grub, it's an alternate boot loader, but it can be a
little difficult to configure.

I can't see why LILO shouldn't boot from that drive if it's boot strapped
using BootMagic.  I currently use a similar setup to boot Linux on an
extended partition on my 3rd IDE drive (above cyl 1024 and 2Gb).

The only thing that I am not sure of is the kernels support for >4 IDE
devices, although I would assume that it should have support.

the LI.... bit, I seem to remember this having something to do with telling
LILO to use linear addressing or LBA or something like that.

HTH

--
    Troy
_______________________________________________
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people
appear bright until you hear them speak

Troy's Linux Server Project http://linuxserver.tkdack.com
_______________________________________________

"t i g s" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi all
>
> For reasons too long to discuss, I have four IDE controllers in my PC with
> the following disks attached:
>
> IDE1/0 - CDROM
> IDE2/0 - CDRW
> IDE3/0 - ATA/100 15Gb HDD
> IDE3/1 - ATA/100 30Gb HDD
> IDE4/0 - ATA/100 20Gb HDD
>
> My question is simple to ask (but maybe tricky to answer :) :-
>
> Can I install LILO in the MBR of IDE4/0 if I use another boot-strapper
> (BootMagic) to point to it?
>
> My BIOS is clever enough to boot off any of the drives, I currently have
it
> booting from IDE3/0. Attempts to install LILO to IDE4/0 so far have just
> resulted in the LI... hanging boot of death.
>
> The only disk I want to mess with for Linux is IDE4/0, I do not want to
> create a /boot partition or install LILO on any of the other disks and
> booting from a floppy is a bit retro for me.
>
> Anyone got any suggestions?
>
> ALSO - When will we be rid of LILO? It has served us well but it is a bit
> limited for today's systems don't we think?
>
> Reply by email appreciated. Thanks :)
> Mark
> tigs@[spam.me.not]zip.com.au
>
>
>
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.Bruijn)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: I'm Impressed!
Date: 23 Apr 2001 14:31:51 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:17:04 GMT, Rand Simberg allegedly wrote:
>
>But back to my question--is an 8MHz 486 fast enough to not be a
>firewall bottleneck on a DSL connection?

In most cases it will be fast enough to completely saturate your uplink
without breaking a sweat. I doubt you'll be able to get the system load
above .20 with just firewalling. At least that's on the machine's I have
seen. 
Apparently there's an impact with each additional firewall rule, but by
how much I don't know. None of the machines I have seen with friends,
had more then about 75...
Running additional daemon's, like squid, on the firewall 486 can be a 
bit demanding. Most will have older disks and little free space, so a
caching proxy can easily become a major bottle-neck.

-- 
If a trainstation is the place where trains stop, what is a workstation?
========================================================================
Herman Bruijn                         website:   http://hermanbruijn.com
The Netherlands 

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From: Matthias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Packages v. Source
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 16:31:46 +0200

Todd J. Beauchemin wrote:

> I have 3 RedHat systems one running 6.1 one with 6.2 and one with 7.0.  I
> am
> thinking or reinstalling the machine that has 7.0.  I have been debating
> whether or not to download the source code for the server programs, such
> as
> apache, mysql, etc. or sticking with the RedHat packages.  I was wondering
> if anyone had any opinions or comments on whether or not to compile and
> install programs from source or to use packages to install programs.
> 
> ~Todd
> 

Maybe you want to visit www.linuxfromscratch.org, there is a manual to 
build the complete system from source, but you may only read the 
introduction.
Compilation is difficult the first time, but afterwards, it's getting 
easier. And, you can choose what to compile, you don't depend on the 
packager.

CIAO, Matthias

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From: "KW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing Redhat 7.0
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 09:46:26 -0500

for Lilo to work (default linux bootloader) the /boot partition has to be
below the 1024th cylinder of the drive it is installed to...  I do not
know how well UMSDOS works for running linux, but if you install to "D:\"
this partition will be erased by linux and replaced by an ext2 file
system...  you may want to read up on the install FAQ's about how much to
give each linux partition if you decide to whack the FAT32 and go with
ext3fs.  Otherwise I am not familiar with how linux runs off the other
format...

I usually setup all my partitions as

/boot  20 MB
Swap <= available amount of RAM, the less RAM the more Swap I allocate.
/ = rest of drive (root partition)

You should be aware that if you make any other partitions that certain
utilities use each of the paths differently...  
/var has may log files in it that may accumulate and run out of room VERY
quickly if not careful

/tmp may also act similarly to /var under some circumstances with certain
utilities using /tmp as a dumping ground for files it may processs, these
files get very large sometimes...

Hope this helps....



In article <qLOE6.32405$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"GELand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I know nothing about Linux, but plan to change that situation. I have
> System Commander 2000 and Redhat Linux 7.0.
> 
> My computer has two hard drives.
> 
> The first HDD has a 15 GB NTFS (C:\) and Windows 2000 Pro.
> 
> The second HDD is 20 GB and has 2 partition. The first partition is 16
> GB FAT32 (D:\). The second partition is 4 GB FAT32 (E:\).
> 
> System Commander created a small partition (128 MB) on the first HDD.
> 
> I plan to install Redhat Linux 7.0 on D:\.
> 
> Question: What possible Linux installation problems do I need to be
> aware of?
> 
> 
>

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From: "KW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: installing Red Hat 7.1
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 09:50:34 -0500

7.1 should provide an upgrade option.  The setup has changed some so you
may want to go though it fresh up to the last step to see whats
different...

In article <qgKE6.3949$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Luc Richard"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi
> 
> I already have Red Hat 7.0 installed on a second hard drive on my pc.
> What's the best way to install 7.1? Should I simply format my drive and
> to a fresh install? This is not a problem for me because I am simply
> trying to learn linux.
> 
> Or is there a way to do an upgrade?
> 
> Thank you in advance
> 
>

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From: "KW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Redhat Installation from Hard Drive
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 09:53:13 -0500

The ISO's are images for a CD burn.  You need the actual files from the
FTP that have the folders and files already in place.  

In article <FJCE6.612399$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Yanick
Hudon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
>     I juste downloaded the ISO Package to install Redhat 7.1 on my hard
> drive.
> 
>     When i'm trying to mount the volume where the ISO pakages are, i
>     can't
> install it. Is there a special way to install from hard drive???
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
>

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