Linux-Setup Digest #171, Volume #21 Sat, 5 May 01 14:13:13 EDT
Contents:
Rebooting problem on a SUN SPARCstation 10. ("Steve Houle")
Max length of password? (Bj�rn T Johansen)
help for win2k and linux bootup ("Yang Li")
Re: Linux crashes under X (NDQ)
Re: Java SDK 1.3/RedHat 7.1 (John Tsao)
Regards Bootable Linux CD (203.199.224.76 [[EMAIL PROTECTED]])
Regards Bootable Linux CD (203.199.224.76 [[EMAIL PROTECTED]])
Re: 486 help??!! (Joeri Sebrechts)
Re: Apache ?? ("Christopher Hill")
Re: Doing a little research regarding AMD Duron (Dave Uhring)
Xterm exits.. (John Hagen)
Re: DHCP and Road Runner blues (".")
Re: File System going bad (Scott)
Re: Xterm exits.. (Richard Thrippleton)
Re: Backups (Scott)
Re: Xterm exits.. (Bit Twister)
Re: Max length of password? ("Duane Healing")
Re: Wanted: Simple FTP/HTTP server with Samba ("Duane Healing")
Re: Which Linux to Get for Win2k? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Wanted: Simple FTP/HTTP server with Samba (Vilmos Soti)
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From: "Steve Houle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Rebooting problem on a SUN SPARCstation 10.
Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 14:11:52 +0200
Hi,
I've got a old SUN SPARCstation 10 with 2 processors. Every time a
reboot or shutdown the system it freeze during the shutdown process and I
need to power down manually. Of course, I've got a file system error during
booting. I read on the SUN web site that is better to have 2 processors
with neerest serial number possible. So I change both processor with the
neerest serial I find at work but I've got the same problem.
Steve Houle
PC System administrator ( NT & Novell )
Cr�dit Agricole Indosuez Cheuvreux
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Subject: Max length of password?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bj�rn T Johansen)
Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 13:53:54 GMT
I have a problem with increasing the annoying default max 8 character in
passwords under SuSE 7.x.
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to increace this lengt? I have
tried to change PASS_MAX_LEN in /etc/login.defs but it still just checks
the first 8 characters! :-(
Any suggestions are appreciated..
Regards,
BTJ
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From: "Yang Li" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: help for win2k and linux bootup
Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 10:17:17 -0400
Hi, if anybody can help me to configure my win2k and linxu boot up.
I have 60G hard disk. The partition is as following:
hda1 : 10G ----------Win2k
hda2: 24M----------/boot
hda3: 46G-----------extend
hda5: 15G------------/
hda6: 2G-------------<swap>
hda7: 15G------------win32
hda8: 15G------------win32
After I install linux (RedHat 6.2), I have to boot from floppy. I created a
boot file using
dd if=/dev/hda2 of=/mnt/floppy/linux.bin bs=512 count=1.
However, after I copy that file to c and add one line
c:\linux.bin="Linux".
It still can't boot linux from hard disk.
Thanks in advance.
Yang Li
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From: NDQ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux crashes under X
Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 16:17:12 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jeannot Lapin wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I installed Linux Mandrake 7.2 on my PC without problem. When I use the
> Gnome Desktop Environnement, Linux crashes within 2 minutes. I can't
> have a console screen with CTRL - ALT - F(1-6) Touch !!! So I reboot.
> Before I used Linux Mandrake 7.2 without problem.
>
> I have a Matrox Mystique 4 Mb, and my PC doesn't crach under WinNT. All
> the cooling fan in the Central Unit work fine.
>
> Anyone has an idea ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jeannot
Would you like to configure your X server again?
--
NGUYEN-DAI Quy
VietNuke at http://vnilux.com
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From: John Tsao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Java SDK 1.3/RedHat 7.1
Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 14:30:07 -0000
Hi,
I am a new user to Linux. But I would suggest Linux users to read a box
product's release note when installing a new RH version.
In RedHat 7.1 release note, it clearly says Java SDK 1.3 won't work
with it. And it also provides the solution
I think linux products become more and more complecated (and release
deadline become more and more critical to marketing). It's not surprising
that linux is sharing more and more problems with Microsoft. Some people
will become experts in solving this kind of annoyances. This is also an
opportunity. Isn't it?
--
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Subject: Regards Bootable Linux CD
From: 203.199.224.76 [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 14:53:33 GMT
hi ,
My name is ashok. I'm trying to create a linux boot cd
The following are the steps that i followed
dd if=/boot/bzImage of=/dev/fd0 bs=1k count=1440
rdev /dev/fd0 /dev/hda5 (hda5 being my root partition)
rdev -R /dev/fd0 0
dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/boot/bootCD/bootImage bs=1k count=1440
/boot/bootCD/ Contains the following files/dirs
a. /bin
b. /sbin
c. /dev
d. /lib
e. bootImage
Rest of the Dirs are to be in the harddrive that part has been taken care by
setting symlinks to these dirs.
cd /boot/bootCD/
mkisofs -D -R -v -d -L -b bootImage -c boot.catalog -o enlinux.isofs .
cdrecord -v speed=2 dev=0,6,0 -data enlinux.isofs
but when i try to boot the system from the cd
its starts booting
but flags the following error
invalid compressed format(err=2)
System Halted
**
However im able to boot from the floppy drive that i created using the above steps.
I would be very greatful if someone could help me out by giving your valuable
suggestions or by pointing out some sites.
Thanks in Advance.
Please remove the word "nospam" from my email-address while replying.
Cheers
ashok
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Subject: Regards Bootable Linux CD
From: 203.199.224.76 [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 14:53:32 GMT
hi ,
My name is ashok. I'm trying to create a linux boot cd
The following are the steps that i followed
dd if=/boot/bzImage of=/dev/fd0 bs=1k count=1440
rdev /dev/fd0 /dev/hda5 (hda5 being my root partition)
rdev -R /dev/fd0 0
dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/boot/bootCD/bootImage bs=1k count=1440
/boot/bootCD/ Contains the following files/dirs
a. /bin
b. /sbin
c. /dev
d. /lib
e. bootImage
Rest of the Dirs are to be in the harddrive that part has been taken care by
setting symlinks to these dirs.
cd /boot/bootCD/
mkisofs -D -R -v -d -L -b bootImage -c boot.catalog -o enlinux.isofs .
cdrecord -v speed=2 dev=0,6,0 -data enlinux.isofs
but when i try to boot the system from the cd
its starts booting
but flags the following error
invalid compressed format(err=2)
System Halted
**
However im able to boot from the floppy drive that i created using the above steps.
I would be very greatful if someone could help me out by giving your valuable
suggestions or by pointing out some sites.
Thanks in Advance.
Please remove the word "nospam" from my email-address while replying.
Cheers
ashok
==================================
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From: Joeri Sebrechts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 486 help??!!
Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 15:01:33 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> On Wed, 02 May 2001 10:27:15 GMT, Joeri Sebrechts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >So according to you linux should only be run on PC's with a CD-ROM drive
> >then?
> >What about that whole "linux runs on older material" thing that people
> >always chant as being one of the most powerful aspects regarding linux
>
> What's it like not being able to afford $30 and not having any friends with the
> ability to own a cdrom?
>
> It doesn't have to be a permenant instalation and whining and bitching about
> needing what can be had for $5, used, is just pathetic.
Did you not read my whole paragraph about my laptop ? I CAN'T attach a
CD to the laptop, because it's too old. But should I let a 486/100 with
20 megs of ram go to waste ? I don't think so.
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From: "Christopher Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Apache ??
Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 09:07:11 -0600
Thanks, but I'm looking to get a live feed...
Christopher
"Michael Heiming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Christopher Hill wrote:
> >
> > Is it possible to have an Apache 1.3 Webserver with a link that somehow
> > points to another (Windows) box on a private internal network? I have a
> > Webcam on that PC and would like to add it to the Webpage w/o actually
> > connecting the cam to the Linux server...I figure I need some sort of
proxy
> > directive in the httpd.conf file.
>
> You're M$ box would need to run a web server and has to be reachable
> from the
> Linux box.
>
> However, most web cam sw that comes with web cams, allows to upload
> periodically
> pictures via ftp, setting up a ftp server on your Linux box should be no
> problem.
>
> Setting up a ftp user for this on your Linux machine would be the
> easiest way to
> get it running.
>
> Good luck
>
> Michael Heiming
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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Doing a little research regarding AMD Duron
Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 10:35:10 -0500
Kwan Lowe wrote:
> Zhan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi, I would like to hear from anyone who has successfully installed a
>> Linux
>> distro on a machine running an AMD Duron processor. In your reply,
>> please include your system configuration, the related distro with
>> version, and any
>> other pertinent information. I would also like to hear from those who
>> have
>> been unable to install Linux on a Duron machine. Please, of course,
>> include the info mentioned above.
>
>
> Sure...
> AMD Duron 750 on a cheapo Biostar board (built in sound and video, usb, 3
> PCI, 1 AGP slot). I installed Suse 7.1 Personal. 8G Maxtor HD. Total cost
> for system was:
> 150 MOBO + Chip
> 30 300W ATX Case
> 40 CDROM Creative 52X
> 60 8G Maxtor
> 20 LinkSys 10/100 NIC
> 90 256M PC133
> 390 Total
>
> I was aiming for a cheap, cheap machine with reasonable perfomance. Video
> works at 1024x768, sound had problems that I haven't resolved yet. Don't
> try using this setup for a game machine without upgrading your video. It
> works wonderfully for everything else though (Internet, Office Apps,
> etc..).
>
>
You can probably get the sound on that MB to work by installing the alsa
drivers, libs & utils. Remove references to sound in /etc/modules.conf and
add the following to the bottom of /etc/rc.d/rc.local
modprobe snd-card-via686a
modprobe snd-pcm-oss
sleep 1
aumix -v100 -w100
Listening to RealPlayer right now with that sound setup on an Athlon MB
using the KT133 chipset.
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Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 08:43:51 -0700
From: John Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Xterm exits..
Hi all,
I'm trying to run a program in an xterm that outputs lines of text and
then exits. When this happens, the xterm goes away as well. I'd like to
be able to read the output and then kill the xterm window at my
pleasure.
For example, if you type at the command line,
$ xterm -e fortune
or
$ xterm -e fortune &
An xterm window appears for a tenth of a second with (presumably :)
output from fortune in it, then it exits.
I've tried paging with less, thinking that the terminal would be held by
less and that the xterm process would not exit until after the less
process exited,
$ xterm -e fortune | less &
but this gives the same result. Using less in combination with the
command would be ideal, probably, because when I hit "q" in less, the
xterm would go away as well.
I also tried
$ xterm -e "fortune &"
$ xterm -e "fortune | less &"
But I only get a new xterm that has the error message:
xterm: Can't execvp fortune &
How can I get xterm to do what I want??
Thanking you,
--
john hagen ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DHCP and Road Runner blues
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.x,alt.linux.redhat,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.x
Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 16:57:58 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "James Tonsager"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I had an awful time setting this up with Roadrunner. I had it working
for a few months and all of a sudden I could no longer use the Linux
machine with Roadrunner.. I tried everything and finally called
Roadrunner and asked them if anything had changed.. It had. Roadrunner
in my area blocks you from obtaining more than one ip address at a time.
I purchased a second ip address and reset the modem by unplugging it from
the wall for two minutes and everything works again. I had not read
anywhere that the modem had to be reset.
Gary
>> > Hello.
>> > I am running Redhat 6.2, and I am tying to use it with Mediaone (Now
>> > ATT) Road Runner service in the Detroit Metro area. My problem is
>> > that my machine would not lease from the DHCP server. Of course, the
>> > customer support was useless in this issue: "we don't support
>> > Line-ucks".
>> > I have researched this thoroughly, and have seen many people with the
>> > same or similar issue, but every single one failed to document
>> > clearly how they overcame this problem (if they did at all). I
>> > dropped pump all together. I have the version that comes stock with
>> > RH 6.2. (0.7.8-1). I downloaded the latest version of DHCPCD version
>> > 1.3.20-p10. I have gotten that to work -- but it only works about 10
>> > percent of the time. 90% of the time (or so) it fails. The README
>> > for this utility is not helpful at all. The howto I found was even
>> > worse. When modifying the script of ifup an ifdown, it not only had
>> > the script wrong, but it said to remove an "if" statement without
>> > touching the fi. I am no scripting whiz, but I know you can't break
>> > conditionals like that without trashing the script.
>> > I modified ifup and ifdown, basically by replacing the pump commands
>> > with their dhcpcd equivalents. Then, I wrote a script that loops the
>> > ifup until it gets a lease. I put the script at the end of rc.local,
>> > rather than having eth0 come up at init level 3. The net result is
>> > that it runs through everything fine, and at the very last stage,
>> > tries to bring up eth0 until it is successful. It take about 10
>> > times plus or minus.
>> > (SIGH........)
>> > What can I do to get this to work?
>> > I really appreciate any help I can get. Thanks! Chris
>> >
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From: Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.linux.slakware
Subject: Re: File System going bad
Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 12:22:37 -0500
Oh, Man!!!
Perhaps if I crank up my AC power frequency, over clocked the CPU,
changed over to 240VAC, and turned up my thermostat?
-SCotty
"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.help Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > did you actually read my original post, are you just
> > trolling for a flame war?
>
> > This problem takes weeks to show up. It's not something I just
> > place on a bench, boot up and see if it's there.
>
> So your second task is to develop an accelerator for the condition,
> as well as your first ask being to develop a diagnostic for it!
>
> (I am trying to teach you how to test!).
>
> Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Thrippleton)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Xterm exits..
Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 18:22:55 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Hagen wrote:
<snip>
>
>I also tried
>
>$ xterm -e "fortune &"
>$ xterm -e "fortune | less &"
>
>But I only get a new xterm that has the error message:
>
>xterm: Can't execvp fortune &
>
>How can I get xterm to do what I want??
>
>Thanking you,
Just a hunch, but try;
xterm -e "fortune | less" &
You need to background (with &) the xterm, not the command inside it; &ing
less may well have crippled it.
Richard
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From: Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Backups
Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 12:31:44 -0500
All advice was noted and appreciated. Thanks!
("as stated elsewhere" refers to another thread in here where
I discussed HD problems)
Steve Wolfe wrote:
>
> > As I stated elsewhere, I've got a duplicate HD (/dev/hdb), partitioned
>
> I'm not sure exactly where "elsewhere" is, so I can't look at what you've
> previously posted, and can only make guesses as to your config. If I'm
> wrong in those guesses, I apologize...
>
> If you have a dulpicate hard drive for backups (same model of drive, I'm
> assuming, since you use the word "duplicate"), why not do something simple,
> such as....
>
> dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb
>
> That would make a bit-for-bit copy, meaning that in the case of extreme
> failure, you swap the drives, and you're running again. Of course, fiddling
> with the block size would speed it up. And, of course, if you were to put
> the second drive on a different controller than the first, that should speed
> things up as well.
>
> steve
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bit Twister)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Xterm exits..
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 17:49:43 GMT
xterm -e /bin/bash -c "fortune;echo \"Press Enter to continue...\c\";read "
On Sat, 05 May 2001 08:43:51 -0700, John Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I'm trying to run a program in an xterm that outputs lines of text and
>then exits. When this happens, the xterm goes away as well. I'd like to
>be able to read the output and then kill the xterm window at my
>pleasure.
>
>For example, if you type at the command line,
>
>$ xterm -e fortune
>
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From: "Duane Healing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Max length of password?
Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 10:44:42 -0700
Did you take a look at /etc/pam.d/passwd?
--
-Duane
-DNAware SoftLabs
In a feverish moment of semi-lucidity, "Bj�rn T Johansen"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flailed at the keyboard thusly:
> I have a problem with increasing the annoying default max 8 character in
> passwords under SuSE 7.x.
> Does anyone have any suggestions on how to increace this lengt? I have
> tried to change PASS_MAX_LEN in /etc/login.defs but it still just checks
> the first 8 characters! :-(
> Any suggestions are appreciated..
> Regards,
> BTJ
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From: "Duane Healing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Wanted: Simple FTP/HTTP server with Samba
Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 10:53:59 -0700
Debian's install process is a little tricky to get your head wrapped
around at first, so it may not meet your "no rocket science" requirement
:^), but it definately has a very good ability to start the install off of
minimal initial media and the rest over network. Once you've got what you
want installed, maintenance and upgrading are very easy too.
It also has pretty fine package granularity so you generally don't need to
install more than you really need.
If this is your first Linux install, don't worry about it too much.
Consider the first attempt a "throwaway" so that you'll know better what
to do next time and how not to screw it up :^) Help is everywhere!
--
-Duane
-DNAware SoftLabs
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Which Linux to Get for Win2k?
Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 13:40:53 -0400
The easiest way:
Buy a second hard drive...cheap 10 gig
Install any distribution from bootable CD
onto the second hard drive.
Install lilo on linux root partion and boot from floppy.
These options are usually available during install.
*DO NOT install lilo in the MBR-master boot record.
This is the safest way I have found for people
with little experience.
Cheers
DanM
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Subject: Re: Wanted: Simple FTP/HTTP server with Samba
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 18:04:14 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aaron Kaase) writes:
> My mission:
> Take an old AMD K6/200 MHz box with two 6 gig drives and make a kick
> ass web and file server with it, and be able to access it with my
> Win2k system using SaMBa.
>
> Linux knowledge:
> None. I need help finding a distro suitable for me, and doesn't
Are you sure your Linux knowledge is none? ;-)
> require a rocket science degree to install.
You said you used FreeBSD but it was terse. On the command line, all
of *nices are terse (and this is why we love them!). BTW FreeBSD would
have been an excellent choice regarding to the networking speed.
> 1. FreeBSD. Not Linux, very terse and uncomfortable to use. I did like
> how it installed itself off of a floppy, then went out on the internet
> to complete the installation, that was slick.
Yes. You might take a look at OpenBSD, http://www.openbsd.org which is
very secure by default. It is very terse, but it does teach you Unix.
Also, their man pages are really excellent and up-to-date.
> 2. Slackware - I would have installed this, but it didn't have the
> network installation that FreeBSD had.
Been there, failed, too. Too bad, now I installed Rock Linux instead of
Slackware.
> 2. Linux-Mandrake. I broke down and made two discs of it. Very easy to
Forget it. It is not geared toward command line users.
> 3. Red Hat - Almost three years ago, back when it was 5.2. Very rough
> install, full of problems. I've been scared of it since. Maybe I
> should try it again.
I just installed 7.1, and I didn't have any real problem with it.
The rpm package managenent nice if you learn. (a couple of more
distros use rpm).
On the distro side. I would give you the standard answer. Choose the
distro your closest friend use whom you can bug even on Christmas Eve.
> Also, how on earth should I partition my hard drives? Linux works with
> multiple partitions, I have no idea the best way to allocate them.
>
> I figure a 128MB swap is plenty, but then where should the rest of the
> space go? There's /, /var, /home, etc. Remember all I want is a Web
> and FTP server.
Usually people suggest 2xRAM as swap. About the rest. Your / should be
something like 300-500MB. /home is questionable. It depends how much
stuff you want to offer for the rest of the world. This is your knowledge.
If you add users to the machine, then you have to decide how much free
space yu let them hog (quota) and modify your idea accordingly.
/var depends on how much traffic and logging you are going to have.
I might recommend putting /usr on a separate partition and you might
mount it ro so if anything crashes you save a bit on fsck.
> Any help is greatly appreciated!!!
If you state that your knowledge is none, then I am impressed with your
down-to-the-point description of your requirements.
Vilmos
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