Linux-Setup Digest #171, Volume #19              Sun, 16 Jul 00 16:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  Telnet Problems ("Bill Smith")
  Re: Please help me evaluate this hardware's compatability with Linux (kSniNe)
  Re: printing from netscape (kSniNe)
  Re: Please help me evaluate this hardware's compatability with Linux ("Calvin N. 
Hobbes")
  Re: big ass partitiions (kSniNe)
  Re: Does (Redhat 6.0 or latest versions) support USB ports? (kSniNe)
  Re: GCC problems (kSniNe)
  Re: linux/errno.h: No such file or directory (kernel compile error) (John Soltow)
  Re: Can I get some modem help? ("Patrick Babb")
  Re: Mandrake 7.0 won't install (Ken Knecht)
  Re: Linux Newbie (kSniNe)
  Re: Attention: Linux Experts ... (kSniNe)
  LILO installation problem (Jared M Minch)
  Redhat Linux 6.2 Partitionless Installation ("Linda Fisher")
  Re: Please help me evaluate this hardware's compatability with Linux 
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Local Printer Drama - Help Please (Eric Lik-Hun Li)

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From: "Bill Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Telnet Problems
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 14:16:43 -0400

I've run into a strange problem that is making my life miserable.  I'm
running RH 6.0 in server mode, and all has been well until today.  Suddenly
I'm unable to telnet into my box either from a remote host or the console to
localhost.  The error message I get is:  "telnetd: All network ports in use.
Connection closed by foreign host."

I can telnet out just fine, and FTP, SMTP, and POP3 are working fine.  I
have HUPed inetd and went so far as to reboot, but neither action helped.

Any ideas???

Many thanks,

Bill





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From: kSniNe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Please help me evaluate this hardware's compatability with Linux
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 14:08:34 -0400

Make a boot disk and fire that bastard up. If you get to an install
screen, your are pretty much set, as most hardware runs at least in a
"basic/standard" mode. Then you can hunt down the drivers/settings to
tune her up.

95% hardware will work if you are willing to experiment. Some windmodems
are supported.

For a graphics card, get a Matrox AGP based card. Then again, everyone
likes a different card.

The best approach is to build your system around Linux, rather than
build Linux around your system.
-kSniNe


phil ossifer wrote:
> 
> Help!    I did a dumb thing.  Bought a system intending to run Linux on it
> without checking out these groups first.  I know I 've transgressed greatly, but
> 
> it is a bit late for recriminations.
> 
> I have the system on 15-day appoval, but the approval ends Saturday and I will
> lose internet access as well as be tied up on a family emergency until the
> Friday,  so  I am kind of frantic.
> 
> Sorry to be so needy, but responses like "check this URL" or "call the company"
> just won't hellp me.   I've paionted myself in a corner and damn well know it.
> 
> I know from my experience helping C programming newbies out in the DOS days the
> reaction to folks who ask but don't seem willing to work at an answer.  Sorry,
> but I can't help it now.
> 
> The system is an Athlon Slot A Barebones system put together by Vextrec
> Technologies(VTI) and is sold specially through Fry's electronics.  The
> motherboard is either an Epox 7KXA or a DTK computer VAM-0070  (some confusion
> here - the bios identifier corresponds to an Epox 7KXA, but the documentation
> with the system is for a DTK VAM-0070 board.   The label on the box calls it a:
> 
> ATX DTK-VAM-0070 EP-7KXA  VIA  133 AGP CHIPSET.  FSB200 / ULTRA DMA 66 /
> ... / 1 AMR AGP SLOT 4X / AC97 AUDIO / 56 FLEX MODEM  (almost certainly a
> winmodem) / 10-100 NET CARD / FLOPPY DRIVE.
> 
> The BIOS is:
> 
>      Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG
>      04/25/2000-8371-686A-6A6LKPAAA9C-00
> 
> This is a _nice_ system.  No crappy low-end misfitsting hardware, cheapie parts,
> etc (except the winmodem, natch).
> 
> I am very inclined to keep it, especially now that I got it up and running DOS
> smoothly.   I'd recommend it to anyone looking for an inexpensive high-end
> system ($399 for Case, MB, and Athlon 700MHZ (bare) CPU -- IF it turns out the
> manufacturer doesn't stonewall the Linux development community!
> 
> The biggest fly in the ointment so far:  All configuration software requires
> W95+.  And certain features like "soft off" are documented to be available only
> through W95.
> 
> VIA had a DOS version of the Ultra 66 driver on their web site, but no mention
> of Linux to be found on Vextrec's , DTK's, Epox's or Via's.
> 
> Does anyone know if these manufacturers are under non-disclosure with MS?  Do
> you forsee any problems (other than the winmodem) getting the drivers or at
> least the info to write drivers to use the features of this
> chipset/motherboard/BIOS?
> 
> I hope to load Corel Linux (chosen because it is supposedly geared to "easy
> install" to "learn the ropes" then move to either Suse, Mandrake, or another
> "heavyweight" distribution later.
> 
> But by Friday I will need to decide to keep the system or chuck a couple of
> week's work and start from scratch.   What would you knowledgeable folk do?
> 
> Some other bits:
> 
> The network card actually mentions Linux on the software disk!  Wonder of
> wonders.  The source code for the driver is there (rtl8139.c by Donald Becker.),
> but the only instalation instructions are  Red Hat and Slackware.    Is it safe
> to  presume that with some help from here it will  install on Corel/Suse/ or
> Mandrake.
> 
> The video cards I bought  are Creative Labs Savage 4  AGP  (S3 Savage 4 128-bit
> chipset)  and KASER Trio-8  (S3  Trio3d/2d chipset).  Neither manufacturer
> mentions Linux on their website nor would tech support offer any information
> about Linux drivers.   Is the information needed available to the driver
> development team(s) or is Creative and KASER stonewalling them?  Would you
> suggest returning these?
> 
> Could anyone recommend a PCI video card with good Linux support  _and_
> drivers for Win3.x (I need this until I get fully up to speed on LInux.)
> 
> The Hard Drive is a WD Ultra 66.   No biggie, but I see their "break the 8GB
> barier" software  recognizes W9x/NT/OS-2 as other possible partitions, but no
> mention of Linux.   Is there a possible problem here?
> 
> The CDROM is a PINE PT-948A.   Seems kind of standard, thing comes right up
> under DOS ( and "old" DOS is supported!  good sign, no?).  But of course no
> mention of Linux to be found in the documentation.
> 
> If I had it to do over, the decision would be clear:   research thoroughly
> first.   But now I have  over a hundred hours invested in this system, and
> cashed in a boatload of brownie points to get a really nifty hardware type to
> help put the thing together.
> 
> So,  being a "programmer with a soldering iron",
> I'd really like to keep an already running system it if it will be feasable to
> run Linux on it.   Anyone have good experiences with VTI/DTK/EPOX/AWARD/VIA
> regarding information disclosure to the Linux development community?  Anyone
> have any BAD experience?
> 
> I know none of you can make the decision for me.  Can any of you offer guidence
> to help me make it?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Phil

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From: kSniNe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: printing from netscape
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 14:12:04 -0400

If you can print from other apps, then you got a rare problem.
Other than that, try setting up the driver.

-kSniNe
 

Bob Martin wrote:
> 
> "H.A.J. van Niekerk" wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've been trying to print from Netscape 4.73 but it doesn't work. No
> > matter if I want to use an HP LaserJet 1100 or a Star LC-20 (NX-1001),
> > it doesn't work. What should I do?
> >
> > Huub
> 
> You might want to post exactly what you are doing. Printing from
> netscape works fine for me.
> --
> 
> Bob Martin

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From: "Calvin N. Hobbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Please help me evaluate this hardware's compatability with Linux
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 09:34:36 -0700
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware

As far as I know, only modems have "winmodems."  These winmodems are cheaper
because they use the processing power of your CPU instead of having a
controller of its own.  Theoretically, if you have the proper drivers then
it should work with any operating system but the reality is, there aren't
usually any for other operating systems.

About your BIOS, CDROM, video etc, just check them with your Linux
distribution's hardware compatibility list.  These components are not
designed to run solely under any one particular OS but I'm sure they have
Windows on their minds while they're on the drawing boards.

You might be willing to program your own drivers but most hardware
manufacturer's are not open source friendly, -presumably to keep their
design a secret.  That's why it's hard to get Linux drivers for the newer
Riva TNT/GeForce cards.


"phil ossifer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>
> Perhaps to clarify the preceeding message a tad:   I just learned friday
what a
> "win modem" was by reading these groups, as well as the NDA and "afraid to
cross
> MS syndrome" of the makers of such.  I was disgusted, then panic set in:
Is
> there such a thing as a "winmotherboard, a winchipset, a winbios", and if
there
> is did  I just buy one?
>
> Do I have a winharddrive, a wincdrom, a wimvideo board?  These are the
questions
> I need answered.  Not too much dinero tied up on the CDROM, video card,
winmodem
> (ugh why tie up a $200 processor with such mundane chores?)  so these can
be
> written off to experience, but the processor, ram, and 30GB hard drive are
> another matter....
>
> I am willing to work.  To write drivers after I learn Linux programming
even.
> But only if I can get specs.  My days of blind hacking are long gone --
I've
> played all the "adventure" that I wish to in this lifetime.
>
> Thanks for any assistence
>
> Phil
>



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From: kSniNe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: big ass partitiions
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 14:19:58 -0400

The Redhat installer is crap. 
One time I used Slackware boot disks to set up a hard drive since RH
thought it would "help" me set my partitions. 
RedHat should clean up there installer, making it look pretty does
nothing for anyone.

Steven Farlie wrote:
> 
> > The RH installer does not like /boot being over 1024 cylinders, and is
> > prone to giving misleading error messages. This may be the snag. Try
> > creating a smallish /boot partition (20M) first, then as big as you want
> > for the rest. I have several partitions over 1G on RH6.2. I have never
> > had a problem, but always had a separate boot partition too.
> 
> It has nothing to do with the 1024 cylinder limit, it's just that the
> RH gui partition wizard has always limited me to 1 gig partitions.
> I think it's strange too.
> I have been using RedHat since 5.0 and it has always done this
> to me. I'll just fdisk and mke2fs it and it should be fine.
> 
> Thanks
> Steven

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From: kSniNe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does (Redhat 6.0 or latest versions) support USB ports?
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 14:25:08 -0400

The newer kernels support USB and lots of USB devices. This is a kernel
issue, not a distribution issue. So pick any distribution you like and
check the kernel. You may have to install k2.4-test*, development
kernel, but it's compiles nicely and works fine. The older k.2.2.* may
have some USB support. I can't afford new hardware so I am not really
sure. ;)

-kSniNe


PasirRis wrote:
>Re: Does (Redhat 6.0 or latest versions) support USB ports?

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From: kSniNe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.config,redhat.general
Subject: Re: GCC problems
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 14:27:05 -0400

That looks like a problem. So many issues that it could be. Maybe
reinstall GCC or run for your life...

"H.A.J. van Niekerk" wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> when trying to make SANE work I get this:
> 
> ./configure
> loading cache /config.cache
> checking for gcc...  gcc
> checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) works... no
> configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler
> cannot create executables
> 
> What is going wrong and how do I solve this?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Huub

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From: John Soltow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: linux/errno.h: No such file or directory (kernel compile error)
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 14:36:03 -0400

John Hovell wrote:

> Hello all --
>
> I installed a 6.2 RH system, and I don't know if I have all correct
> packages installed.  I do make menuconfig; make dep; make clean with no
> errors.
>
> But then using "make" or "make bzImage" displays this error (this is as
> far as it gets).  I'm recompiling as I am trying to install FreeS/WAN
> but I haven't done anything but unpacked the tarball (I was just trying
> to test a kernel recompile) outside the kernel source directory.  I've
> never recompiled the kernel on this machine before... The version is
> 2.2.16-3 (RH release).
>
> Does anyone know what I am missing/doing wrong?
>
> gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -o
> scripts/split-include
> scripts/split-include.c
> In file included from /usr/include/errno.h:36,
>                  from scripts/split-include.c:26:
> /usr/include/bits/errno.h:25:
> make: *** [scripts/split-include] Error 1
>
> Thanks a lot ...
>
> Cheers,
> John

    John,

    Unfortunately you found a solution before I saw your message.  But I
wanted to let you know there is another (simpler) way to correct the
problem.  "make mrproper" corrects the link problems.  But, you'll want to
copy your /usr/src/linux/.config file to another directory as make
mrproper will erase it.

    John




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From: "Patrick Babb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can I get some modem help?
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 13:43:30 -0500

Try miniterm.

"Kelli Halliburton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Thanks to everyone who has tried to help so far.
>
> I tried changing out the serial mouse for a PS/2 mouse, and
> hooking the modem to the 9-pin port that the serial mouse had
> been hooked to.
>
> Unfortunately, I got the same problem. The modem only responds
> with the TR light. Never any activity on the SD or RD lights. If
> I try to connect to the modem at 112k, I occasionally get the TM
> light to come on, and that's also when I receive the
> spurious "CONNECT 28800" messages.
>
> I don't even know what TM stands for. I assume the modem works
> correctly, because until just a few weeks ago, I was using it
> with my Amiga. I also must now assume that the serial port works
> correctly, because it is the same port that worked just fine
> when the serial mouse was hooked to it.
>
> Through process of elimination, I believe that the problem lies
> with Kppp. David Efflandt mentioned that he was unable to get it
> working with his Mandrake distro. I was unable to find any
> information regarding "minicom" on my system. I would like to
> know what are the names of any other ppp dialout utilities that
> would be included in a Debian (Storm - "Rain" release) distro.
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------
>
> Got questions?  Get answers over the phone at Keen.com.
> Up to 100 minutes free!
> http://www.keen.com
>





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Knecht)
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.0 won't install
Date: 16 Jul 2000 18:41:58 GMT

Here's the patch file (autoboot.bat) as I got it from their web 
site:

mdkinst\loadlin mdkinst\vmlinuz ramdisk_size=32000 
initrd=mdkinst\initrd.cd mdkinst cdrom


Note: This may appear on several lines in your newsreader. The 
original text was a single line; it had no CRs or LFs.

This gives me:

Backslash found where operator expected at (eval 200) line 1, 
near "mkdinst\"
Bareword found where operator expected at (eval 200) line 1, 
near "32000 initrd"
  (Missing operator before initrd?)
Backslash found where operator expected at (eval 200) line 1, 
near "mkdinst\"

Then I get the _X11 error mentioned earlier - twice.

I'm guessing maybe the patch is formatted wrong - (needs CRs?) - 
but I have no idea of how to fix it.

Ken

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (kSniNe) wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 

>Could be the right driver running in the wrong mode, or the
>wrong driver in the right mode. 
>
>-kSniNe
>
>Ken Knecht wrote:
>> 
>> I tried Mandrake 7.0 this morning and it won't install.
>> <sigh> Maybe God is trying to tell me to run Windows?<g>
>> 
>> I get a
>> 
>> _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno=111
>> 
>> whatever that means. I don't even get to the install
>> program! The VGA card, if that's the problem, worked fine
>> under TurboLinux 6.0.
>> 
>> I checked the Mandrake web site under support and on one
>> screen they mention an error something like mine. They say
>> their autoboot.bat file is buggy and provide a new one. As
>> instructed, I copied it to the boot floppy as patch.pl and
>> entered 
>> 
>> linux patch
>> 
>> at boot.
>> 
>> Now I get a bunch of syntax errors, then the _X11 error.
>> Seems their patch is buggier than the original?
>> 
>> I emailed their support. We will see. I think I'll go back
>> to Red Hat next. Or maybe reinstall my old SuSE 6.0 and
>> save $65. At least the earlier RH systems installed and
>> configured the printer and maybe RH 6.2 will even configure
>> ppp and Samba too, none of which TurboLinux 6.0 would do.
>> Then I'll have to figure out how to make RH run Gnome (it
>> probably only has KDE) - got to get my $30 back out of my
>> Sam's Gnome book! 
>> 
>> I'm going broke buying Linux distributions that don't work!
>> And the Linux magazines and boosters wonder why Linux is
>> not more popular with people who try it out.
>> 
>> Ken
>


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From: kSniNe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Newbie
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 14:30:59 -0400

You may need to set up your DNS.
If redhat still has the "netconfig" program, try to do it there.

-kSniNe

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I've just recently installed Redhat 6.1 twice.  With the first install
> I was able to browse using Netscape, second time I am unable to
> browse.  I'm getting "unknown host" errors.  I've been searching the
> docs, usenet, redhat, etc. to find more information to properly setup
> the internet connection with, but I'm new at configuring linux and am
> not sure where to start.
> 
> I'm connected to a token ring LAN.  Any help is greatly appreciated!
> 
> Regards,
> Matt Sleeper
> webmaster - www.cfins.com
> 
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

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From: kSniNe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Attention: Linux Experts ...
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 15:05:29 -0400

There are hundreds of sites doing this already. What distingishes yours
from the others???

Terry Mulvany wrote:
> 
> Linux experts ...
> 
> I have taken notice to the abundance of quality individuals taking the
> time to reply to these posts.  There are a group of people that are building
> a
> web site around the concept that information that is intuitive, well
> organized and understood by Linux users of ALL levels of expertise should be
> more readily available.  The web site will contain self help knowledge that
> is very easy to locate, comprehend, and put to use.  It will include
> information in a general format, step-by-step wizard-like tutorials both
> textual and graphical, and will later offer additional services.  All
> information on the web site will be FREE!
> 
> The site is called Doctortux.com and is currently in beta.  There are many
> individuals contributing content and I would like to extend an offer to
> you, the Linux expert to take part in the evolution of this web site.
> 
> I am in awe at the amount of time volunteered by you in replying to these
> users in need.  I believe that the contributions that would be made to
> Doctortux.com would be bring additional benefits to the Linux community
> and you as well, beyond that of you current efforts.
> 
> The Linux community will gain because we aim to make Doctortux.com the
> primary place people go to understand and get help with Linux.  The benefits
> to you are greater visibility and compensation for you efforts.  Depending
> on your knowledge level, communication skills, and level of committment you
> can qualify for different levels and forms of compensation for the
> content you provide to the site.
> 
> The primary need is for technical writing.  Building factual, tested content
> that helps site visitors understand and troubleshoot Linux, which is exactly
> what you are doing right now.
> 
> Please send all questions and interests to me directly.  Thank you for your
> time.
> 
> --
> Terry Mulvany, President
> Doctortux.com, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.doctortux.com
> 626.795.8765

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From: Jared M Minch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LILO installation problem
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 11:46:21 -0700

I recently had a HD crash, and I've been trying to get my computer working
again.  Fortunately, I had a (minimal, but functional) linux installation
on my second hard drive, however, I need to lilo installed so I can use it
to boot.

However, I've been having trouble getting the thing to work.  First, it
was claiming that it was making the changes, but wasn't actually
installing, and now it keeps bombing out with 'read /dev/hda: no such file
or directory'.  (The /dev/hda is from the boot= line in lilo.conf.)  (As a
side note, I'm not sure what prompted the change in behaviors.  I can't
seem to get it to do anything now.)  Does anyone have any ideas as to what
the problem is?  I suspect that some of the files it expects may be messed
up -- I've never installed lilo from this partition -- but I don't really
know.


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From: "Linda Fisher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Redhat Linux 6.2 Partitionless Installation
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 12:29:17 -0700

Hello,

     I understand that in Redhat Linux 6.2 there are many ways to install
Redhat Linux, one being the partitionless installation.  I feel this is the
best way for me to explore the world of Linux.

     Before I install Redhat Linux via the partitionless installation, I
have a question: would I need to reformat my hard drive and erase my entire
Windows 98 setup or would Redhat Linux be installed in a directory called
"\" under Windows?

Thanks!

Andrew
digi-FX
===============================
http://www.digi-FX.net



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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Please help me evaluate this hardware's compatability with Linux
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 19:32:07 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (phil ossifer) writes:

> The biggest fly in the ointment so far: All configuration software
> requires W95+.  And certain features like "soft off" are documented
> to be available only through W95.

Well... it's possible, certainly.  However, power management features
like soft-off or suspend are typically managed through APM or ACPI,
which are controlled through the BIOS.  I believe there's Linux
support for soft-off - ISTR installing Linux on my mother's laptop for
a week or two and it would power off on shutdown.

> VIA had a DOS version of the Ultra 66 driver on their web site, but
> no mention of Linux to be found on Vextrec's , DTK's, Epox's or
> Via's.

Linux is managing its own ATA66 driver development, I believe.

> Does anyone know if these manufacturers are under non-disclosure
> with MS?  Do you forsee any problems (other than the winmodem)
> getting the drivers or at least the info to write drivers to use the
> features of this chipset/motherboard/BIOS?

Buying *any* preconfigured (to any extent) system is a danger.  Often,
devices aren't proprietary to Windows, they're proprietary to the
computer manufacturer.

Nevertheless, the only rough spot I've ever had in terms of Linux
support is audio - the Aureal Vortex 2.  If you have one of those
cards, your only option is to pay something like $25 for lousy,
worthless, closed-source drivers from "OSS."

> I hope to load Corel Linux (chosen because it is supposedly geared
> to "easy install" to "learn the ropes" then move to either Suse,
> Mandrake, or another "heavyweight" distribution later.

Depending on what you mean by "heavyweight," Debian may be a better
choice for you.

> But by Friday I will need to decide to keep the system or chuck a
> couple of week's work and start from scratch.  What would you
> knowledgeable folk do?

Buy a copy of Linux (any distribution, they all have pretty much the
same basic hardware support) and try to install it and get everything
working.  If you're missing some components, buy them from CompUSA or
another store that has a don't-ask-don't-tell return policy.

> The network card actually mentions Linux on the software disk!
> Wonder of wonders.  The source code for the driver is there
> (rtl8139.c by Donald Becker.), but the only instalation instructions
> are Red Hat and Slackware.  Is it safe to presume that with some
> help from here it will install on Corel/Suse/ or Mandrake.

Yes.

The driver is almost certainly also in the distribution Linux kernel.
(Didn't Donald Becker write the ne2000 driver, too?)

> The video cards I bought are Creative Labs Savage 4 AGP (S3 Savage 4
> 128-bit chipset) and KASER Trio-8 (S3 Trio3d/2d chipset).  Neither
> manufacturer mentions Linux on their website nor would tech support
> offer any information about Linux drivers.  Is the information
> needed available to the driver development team(s) or is Creative
> and KASER stonewalling them?  Would you suggest returning these?

Creative and KASER have nothing to do with it.  Try both cards with X
(it's the only thing that will care).  The NVIDIA TNT2 is pretty cheap
now, and I know it has good Linux support.  Be wary of the m64, as I
believe it's a low-end spinoff.

> Could anyone recommend a PCI video card with good Linux support
> _and_ drivers for Win3.x (I need this until I get fully up to speed
> on LInux.)

Didn't somebody make VESA drivers for Win3.x?  That would just use the
VESA BIOS calls for SVGA?  On a fast computer, you're not likely to
notice the slowdown.

> The Hard Drive is a WD Ultra 66.  No biggie, but I see their "break
> the 8GB barier" software recognizes W9x/NT/OS-2 as other possible
> partitions, but no mention of Linux.  Is there a possible problem
> here?

Don't use the software.  You don't need it.  Modern BIOSes will
support >8GB drives out of the box, and overlay software is
historically the source of 98% of all hard drive problems.

> The CDROM is a PINE PT-948A.  Seems kind of standard, thing comes
> right up under DOS ( and "old" DOS is supported!  good sign, no?).
> But of course no mention of Linux to be found in the documentation.

If it's an ATAPI drive (i.e., if your BIOS detects and can boot from
it), it'll work under Linux.

> So, being a "programmer with a soldering iron", I'd really like to
> keep an already running system it if it will be feasable to run
> Linux on it.  Anyone have good experiences with
> VTI/DTK/EPOX/AWARD/VIA regarding information disclosure to the Linux
> development community?  Anyone have any BAD experience?

I strongly dislike VIA, but I have to, because I own Intel stock.

A little more seriously, I've never run into a single problem with any
Intel product I've ever owned.  However, I have run into problems with
every single Intel-alternative (VIA, AMD) product I've ever owned.  I
know of a lot of people who run AMD processors on VIA chipsets quite
happily, but I will never do it.

-- 
Eric P. McCoy ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

"Dude... my hands are huge.  They can touch anything but themselves...
 oh, wait."

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From: Eric Lik-Hun Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Local Printer Drama - Help Please
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 15:46:18 -0400

Hi there...

I'm also running RH6.1 and am not as lucky as you are with printing...
can't figure out the parallel port stuff.  Could you teach me how to get
that working?  What's the insmod stuff?

I tried using printtool, but no test pages came out... and cat-ing to
/dev/lp0 or /dev/lp1 does nothing...

Help!!!

Eric

Rick wrote:
> 
> I'm using Redhat 6.1 and only recently got around to installing a
> printer. I started with Redhat's printtool which didn't detect a
> parrallel port. I read the documentation and searched the newsgroups. I
> got the port up and happening using -
> 
> insmod parport
> insmod parport_pc io=0x378 irq=7
> insmod parport_probe
> insmod lp parport=0
> 
> I set up the printer in Redhat printtool, I was able to print a
> postscript test page, no worries but I can't print from any application,
> 
> the lpr command returns "unknown printer", gnotepad does gnothing,
> gnumeric crashes.
> 
> How do I actually print something now that I have the printer setup!

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  knowledge of the Holy One is understanding." 
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