Linux-Setup Digest #186, Volume #21 Tue, 8 May 01 10:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Re: understanding how a kernel was built (extracting its config). (John Winters)
bash - bind control-left (Michael Boyd)
Re: ISDN through USB hub!? (M. Buchenrieder)
how to set locale ? ("Rein Laaneser")
date error in RH (webmaster)
Re: Help me get scsi working? (SammyTheSnake)
Re: removing linux ("dark dragon")
Adding RAID disks to RH7 ("Bill Delphenich")
Re: mouse problem ("Gene Heskett")
Re: Bootdisk (Matthias)
Oh no! /proc is missing. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Moved HD, Now can't boot (bill g)
Re: anyone have solution install RH7.1 on 16M RAM (Kevin Ford)
R: understanding how a kernel was built (extracting its config). ("Massimo Pinto")
Re: Best Distributions? (Rod Smith)
InfraRed Port on Laptop and GSM phone ... (Edwin Tielen)
Re: Moved HD, Now can't boot ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Oh no! /proc is missing. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Linux reads only first session from a multi session CD
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Wireless LAn (Michael Perry)
2.2.18 -> 2.2.19 panic (Dirk Emmermacher)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Winters)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: understanding how a kernel was built (extracting its config).
Date: 8 May 2001 10:12:45 +0100
In article <02OJ6.1229$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Massimo Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Messages from a previous thread lead me to formulate a new question, hence a
>new thread.
>
>I have tried to compile the source code for kernel 2.4.2. I did it
>many times, as everytime I had finished a compilation and tested the kernel,
>I discovered that I had forgotten to include
>support for something. This happened even if I had gone read the
>documentation that comes with the drivers as one does "make xconfig".
>
>My old kernel 2.2.16, that came pre-built from RH7.0, included support for
>sound and PPP that I did not manage to include in 2.4.2, despite the efforts
>to include them at "config" time for 2.4.2.
>
>The question then is: given a built kernel, for example one that comes from
>a give distribution, is there a way to extract from it the config file that
>was used to build it? What is available as a module, and what is pre-built
>in the kernel, for example.
AFAIK there's no way of extracting the information from the kernel
executable but Red Hat do supply a directory which contains the
configurations they used to build their kernels. Install Red Hat's
kernel source and then look in /usr/src/linux/configs
HTH
John
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From: Michael Boyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: bash - bind control-left
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 10:41:32 +0100
Hi,
Does any one know how to bind <CTRL>-<LEFT> in bash. I'm using RedHat
7.0 with bash 2.04.11(1).
After reading the bash man I tried the obvious:
>bind -q backward-word
backward-word can be invoked via "\eOd", "\eb".
>bind '"\C-\e[D": backward-word'
backward-word can be invoked via "\eOd", "\eb", "\C-\e[D".
This doesn't work. I'd guess that what this really means is
<CTRL>-<ESC> followed by "[" followed by "D" (which doesn't work).
It has occurred to me that the problem may be due to the fact that bash
is just receiving ASCII characters and doesn't know anything about the
state of the control key itself. As <CTRL>-<ESC> doesn't have an ASCII
code "\C-\e..." is meaningless to bind. As bash receives <ESC>[D from
the left arrow with or without <CTRL> I guess there's no way to bind
<CTRL>-<LEFT>.
I guess I need to go below bash and somehow make the system send
something else for <CTRL>-<LEFT> to the console. Given the output of
"bind -q backward-word" I wouldn't be too surprised if the console
should be receiving "\eOd" for <CTRL>-<LEFT>.
Am I right so far and if so how do I go about altering what the console
receives?
or:
Am I talking complete bollocks and if so, how do I bind <CTRL>-<LEFT> in
bash?
Thanks,
Mike Boyd
PSA Parts Ltd
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: ISDN through USB hub!?
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 06:57:26 GMT
Joe Bloggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Hello,
> Just trying to set up SuSE7.1 - wonderful! Except that it can not
>see my ISDN through USB... This is a Teledat150 a/b - in case anybody
>recognises it...
Yes. It's an external ISDN adapter connected via USB, and
sold primarily in Germany by Detusche Telekom AG.
>When I filter through my boot logs I see usbmgr firing
>up with lots of bulk message errors firstly... lots of stuff about no
>device bound to it, was configured then wasn't configured etc etc
>etc.... Does anyone know of any generic method I can get this working?
[...]
Hopeless, AFAIK. This is a Windows-only device.
Telekom doesn't provide any help on writing software for non-MS
operating systems for that kind of stuff (similar to the
Eumex systems they're distributing). Buy yourself a simple
AVM Fritz!PCI (V 1.x) card and use that one instead.
You may want to try the german Linux groups for more info,
as this is rather a Germany-specific topic.
Michael
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From: "Rein Laaneser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: how to set locale ?
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 12:28:09 +0200
How to set a locale ?
I did try to run autormp but i did got a following message...
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bash-2.04# autorpm
perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
LANGUAGE = (unset),
LC_ALL = (unset),
LANG = "en"
are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
*****************
ReinL:
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (webmaster)
Subject: date error in RH
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 10:42:21 GMT
The several versions of RH I have installed always have caused an
annoying time error. Each time, during setup, I carefully set the
correct timezone and GMT (we have +8:00) but each time when starting X
I get a 'date in the future error'. I just installed 7.1 and it is
the same as always. Each time I want to save some settings as root, a
number of windows announce the date error. What is causing this?
Is this a bug? Looks as if the date is calculated incorrect in
relation to the US, but then again, the date should rather be behind
instead of ahead by one day in relation to us. The funny thing is
that the time server shows the correct time and date, just the
configuration file dates are wrong.
What do I do to get rid of the error messages? Delete the config
files?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (SammyTheSnake)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Help me get scsi working?
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 11:53:47 +0100
In article <NsqH6.5789$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I use my IOMEGA ZIP drive very rarely. Now I want to use it. But
>/dev/sda4 is not a valid block device. It's a SCSI internal drive, and
>I've compiled up generic SCSI support. During boot, however, I see this
>message:
> scsi: 0 hosts
> scsi: detected total
>
>That doesn't sound good.
>
>Anybody want to suggest where I might begin looking? According to the
>IOMEGA howto for the model I'm supposed to use generic scsi support and
>then put aha152x= support in my "append" line of lilo. I did this, but I
>can't tell if it's even getting that far since it seems to think I have 0
>scsi devices?
you're not detecting the host, that is the adapter, which means you probably
haven't set the aha125x line propperly, what did you put after the =? I'm
guessing you need to have the port address for the adapter (I don't have the
relevant howto on me) check you've got it right.
did you re-run lilo after changing the config file?
is it all plugged in correctly?
does it work in any other OSen you may have (heretically ;) installed?
TIA/HTH
Cheers & God bless
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From: "dark dragon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: removing linux
Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 16:38:01 -0400
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
what linux CD? i'm guessing maybe the CD got scratched or something. when
you get a new CD, it should be a simple matter to use your old linux
partitions for the new install
"Kenny@BUI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:UtfI6.331$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> hello,
> our box had rh7.0 on it. my buddy used dos diskettes to book the computer
> and format the drive. Linux will not boot up now. we tried booting with
both
> Linux and dos boot\installation disks. our goal is to remove Linux and do
a
> fresh install.
> the cd drive kicks the cd out all the time. it continuously says that
Linux
> is not found on the cd and ejects the cd.
>
> thank you,
> Kenny.
>
>
>
>
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From: "Bill Delphenich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Adding RAID disks to RH7
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 08:07:49 -0400
I am running RH7 on a Dell PowerEdge 4400 server with 3 RAID disks. I need
to add 5 more RAID disks to my array to max out the capacity of the
server. Will RH7 be able to automatically detect this change, or will I
need to to some reconfiguring?
Thanks for any assistance.
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Date: 8 May 2001 8:27:16 -0500
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mouse problem
Gene Heskett sends Greetings to mike ;
> I'm a Linux newbie trying to install Red Hat 7.1
> I had everything installed and working, including my mouse and
> X-windows, except my Netgear ethernet card. I learned it was
> probably not compatible so I replaced it with the Netgear FA301TX
> card. Then I installed the new ethernet card which was picked up by
> the auto detect. I believe the card was working, but then my mouse
> wouldn't. Each time during the Linux load, it would say seaching for
> new hardware, then a window pops up that says that my generic PS/2
> mouse was removed. I reinstalled the system, and the same thing
> happened. I removed the Netgear card and still the same problem. In
> Win2k, the mouse is labelled as a Logitec PS/2 port mouse. I am able
> to use Linux, just not a mouse, and therefore not X-windows. What am
> I doing wrong?
> I'm a dumb newbie so please explain in idiot's terms (I'm also an
> idiot.) Anyone with a suggestion, e-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> or respond on this NG. Thanks.
Since the mouse detectors actually try to talk to the mouse, it appears
the mouse isn't responding. I'd try a different mouse.
Cheers, Gene
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From: Matthias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bootdisk
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 14:55:07 +0200
Scott Wilson wrote:
> Hello,
> Does anyone know how to create a new linux bootdisk with LILO on it.
> Basically, I cannot put LILO on my hardisk, so after upgrading my
> kernel, I wat to put the LILO bootloader onto a floppy disk,so that I
> can boot up with the new kernel.
> Cheers,
> Scott
>
>
The easy way: Put a ext2 filesystem on the disk, mount it, copy your
lilo.conf to disk, edit it and change the line
boot = /dev/hdx (or something else) into boot = /dev/fd0,
map = /boot/map into map = /mnt/floppy/map, etc.
then type (as root) lilo -C /mnt/floppy/lilo.conf.
Or read the bootdisk howto, but it is lot more difficult ...
CIAO, Matthias
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Oh no! /proc is missing.
Date: 8 May 2001 12:57:34 GMT
In an attempt to copy the entire filesystem to a new partition... I did
something very bad and can no longer boot up the system. I need some help
in a big way!
The story:
I booted the RH6.1 system from the install floppy into rescue mode using
"boot: linux rescue". I temporarily mounted the old system to a
directory.
The old system consisted of everything except /boot in a single partition.
I then mounted the new partition and used "cp -a /old/* new" to copy
everything over. Then I did something bad - I don't know what. I tried to
reboot the using the old system (which I thought I had not changed). It
would not boot. It successfully passes the point where is gives the
message about entering non-interactive mode. Then it gives an error about
the /proc mount point not existing. And just about everything after that
point does not work. Oh NO!
Can anyone guess what has happened and how to cure it? I really don't want
to reinstall. I have a few users and have a lot of my own scripts and web
pages. I do not have a back up of the system (oops). I also do not know
whether the copy I made onto the new partition was done before or after
I messed things up. Is there any information I can provide to help figure
this out?
I'm in over my head. Someone please help. Thanks!
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From: bill g <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Moved HD, Now can't boot
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 08:05:33 -0500
I added a HD and switched my linux drive from being a slave on the ide1
cable to ide2 cable as a slave. Now, of course, my boot floppy won't
work. The linux drive shows up in the boot as hdd hdd1 hdd2 <hdd5> but I
get the kernel panic thing. Is there a way to fix this w/o reinstalling
linux?
thanks
bill g
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin Ford)
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: anyone have solution install RH7.1 on 16M RAM
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 13:39:42 +0100
On Tue, 8 May 2001 07:29:32 +0000 (UTC), Walter Dnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>On Tue, 8 May 2001 02:09:04 +0800, tin, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> anyone have solution install RH7.1 on 16M RAM
>> Intel p100 box
>
> Are you a masochist<g> ? If it's at all possible, I suggest...
> - text mode install
> - select custom (not "workstation", let alone "server")
> - honking big swapfile, say 512 megs
> - answer "no" to just about every optional software package. Use
> RPM to add in stuff you really need later.
>
> And don't even *THINK* about X.
>
> What do you want to do with it? If you want to use it as a
>dedicated-router-cum-firewall, check out coyote or lrp instead. If you
>actually want to get any serious work done, buy a used 64-meg machine.
>Another option is to run RH6.2 with the latest updates on the machine.
>Even there, I question how well X would (wouldn't ?) run.
>
How do you address a 512MB swap file with 16MB of Ram? A 48MB swap file
would be a lot more realistic and possibly even a little excessive anyway.
Remember all Linux's fitted in 16MB once!
16MB is enough for a simple gui like Windowmaker, or possibly something archaic
like twm. I'm sure they still come with Redhat. I would personally put Slack
on this machine, as it is just as flexible to install on small machines as
large ones. Certainly at todays memory prices it might be worth getting an
extra 16MB. Linux isn't Windows after all but it is still probably best to
protect your HD from excessive wear, especially if it is as old as the rest of
the box.
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From: "Massimo Pinto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: R: understanding how a kernel was built (extracting its config).
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 13:28:21 GMT
Excellent. I have found the config files under /usr/src/linux/configs
It's true that the config files themselves are not that human readable, but
when doing make config or make xconfig for building a new kernel (in this
case 2.4.2) one can still check the aspect of the config file generated and
compare it to the config file of the existing kernel (here 2.2.16)
Thanks a lot
Massimo
John Winters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
9d8dad$v2s$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> In article <02OJ6.1229$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Massimo Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Messages from a previous thread lead me to formulate a new question,
hence a
> >new thread.
> >
> >I have tried to compile the source code for kernel 2.4.2. I did it
> >many times, as everytime I had finished a compilation and tested the
kernel,
> >I discovered that I had forgotten to include
> >support for something. This happened even if I had gone read the
> >documentation that comes with the drivers as one does "make xconfig".
> >
> >My old kernel 2.2.16, that came pre-built from RH7.0, included support
for
> >sound and PPP that I did not manage to include in 2.4.2, despite the
efforts
> >to include them at "config" time for 2.4.2.
> >
> >The question then is: given a built kernel, for example one that comes
from
> >a give distribution, is there a way to extract from it the config file
that
> >was used to build it? What is available as a module, and what is
pre-built
> >in the kernel, for example.
>
> AFAIK there's no way of extracting the information from the kernel
> executable but Red Hat do supply a directory which contains the
> configurations they used to build their kernels. Install Red Hat's
> kernel source and then look in /usr/src/linux/configs
>
> HTH
> John
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>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Best Distributions?
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 13:33:00 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Errol Dunlap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> I'm thinking about starting a linux server, which is the better of the
> distributions? I want to setup a network of about 3-4 machines.
>
> i like Suse, but want to be sure before i go and buy the software.
Which distribution is "best" (or "better") is largely subjective, and
also depends on precisely what you want to achieve. If you're
comfortable with SuSE, by all means, stick with it. If you feel like
investigating others, do so. (My Web page at
http://www.rodsbooks.com/distribs/ has my own thoughts on several
distributions, but I haven't yet managed to update it for the latest
round of new distributions.)
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From: Edwin Tielen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: InfraRed Port on Laptop and GSM phone ...
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 15:42:46 +0200
Hi,
I am trying to set up my laptop, running RedHat 7.1 (kernel 2.4.X) to
use the infrared port to talk to my Motorola Timeport L7089 GSM phone,
using it as a modem. I've found several HOWTO documents, but most of
them report tools that I don't have, although I believe that I have the
irda-utils package installed. Things like 'irmanager' cannot be found,
which is one of the main tools I see in the documentation. If I search
the net for rpm files for this package, they are all of older versions
then I have, so I am confused.
a) is there anyone out there that could help me set this up (I now Unix
quite well, am only starting to learn Linux)
b) if not, can someone guide me through how to install the above tools
so at least I can try to mimic what has been described in the HOWTO
docs?
Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED], since I don't frequent this newsgroup
that often.
Thx for your help.
-Edwin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Moved HD, Now can't boot
Date: 8 May 2001 13:47:58 GMT
bill g <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I added a HD and switched my linux drive from being a slave on the ide1
> cable to ide2 cable as a slave. Now, of course, my boot floppy won't
> work. The linux drive shows up in the boot as hdd hdd1 hdd2 <hdd5> but I
> get the kernel panic thing. Is there a way to fix this w/o reinstalling
> linux?
Use rdev to fix the root partition in your kernel image.
Davide
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Oh no! /proc is missing.
Date: 8 May 2001 13:49:50 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> the /proc mount point not existing. And just about everything after that
> point does not work. Oh NO!
Try boot in rescue mode or with a boot disk and check that /proc
exists. Since proc is a 'phony' filesystem you need only the
mount point. Check the fstab also.
Davide
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.questions,linux.support
Subject: Linux reads only first session from a multi session CD
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 12:06:14 GMT
Hi there,
After reading a few articles I understand that Linux (in my case
Mandrake 8.0, kernel 2.4.3) STILL reads the first session from a
multi-session CD in stead of the last session (indeed it does after
testing). This means I can't read my CD-R I made containing two
sessions, because only the file-listing of the first session is shown.
Using the -o session=xx only gives me an error message that the session
does not exists, but it does, because in Windows the CD is read in full
(all files in both sessions). So it's not a hardware issue, but
typically a Linux problem.
I don't want to burn CD's at this point, I only want to read the entire
content of the multi-session CD (i.e. using gtktalog). What can I do to
accomplish this, or can't I ?
Greetings,
Gerhald Lukken
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: Wireless LAn
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 14:00:27 -0000
On Mon, 7 May 2001 15:38:10 GMT, Roger Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a IBM ThinkPad Running RH7.1 . I am having trouble installing a
> wireless Lucent LanCard. I am new to Laptop configs and I would
> appreciate any help one would provide. I have a 3Com LanCard installed
> using DHCP
> and it is working fine. My Wireless does not. How do I configure The
> Lucent Wireless?
>
>
> Thanks in advance!!
>
>
> Roger
>
Well, you could get the lucent patches for pcmcia-cs and patch the pcmcia
and recompile pcmcia. You can get lucent's wireless stuff from
www.wavelan.com. This works for 2.2.* for me quite well. Next you just add
a module line to /etc/pcmcia/config.opts or whatever place redhat stores
this information with the name of the wavelan2_cs module, etc. There is an
example in the lucent drivers to do ad_hoc wireless.
I recently purchased a Lucent Residential Gateway for home use and am using
encryption, etc on it. Prior, I build a PC wireless access point using a
isa to pcmcia adaptor card. That gave me wireless through the house.
Note there are also drivers included in new pcmcia sources for the wavelan
cards.
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From: Dirk Emmermacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 2.2.18 -> 2.2.19 panic
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 16:02:37 +0200
Hello list,
after upgrade to 2.2.19 on Suse-Linux firewall, I've following message
on booting: VFS: Unable to mount root fs 03:01
What can I do? The System.map file was already copied to /boot...
Thanx in advance.
Best regards.
Dirk Emmermacher
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