Linux-Setup Digest #190, Volume #21               Tue, 8 May 01 21:13:08 EDT

Contents:
  Install Help on HP Vectra ("Jon Page")
  Re: Netfilter, IPtables... what the heck is going on? (Mark Schlegel)
  Re: Netfilter, IPtables... what the heck is going on? ("Ian Jones")
  Re: Lilo with WinNT (Thomas SMETS)
  Re: Netfilter, IPtables... what the heck is going on? (TGOS)
  Re: RH7.1 - Can't telnet or SSH in from another host ("Jean Berthomieu")
  compiling kernel .... (Pun Kuan Tou)
  Re: compiling kernel .... ("�̼���")
  Re: compiling kernel ....
  Re: Linux reads only first session from a multi session CD (Dances With Crows)
  Red Hat Linux 7 With RCA (AT&T@Home) Cable Modem (Wouldnt You Like to Know)

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From: "Jon Page" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Install Help on HP Vectra
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 12:07:33 -0700

Hello,

I am trying to install RedHat 7.1 on an HP Vectra XU 6/200 and am having
trouble.
This system has an Adaptec AIC-7880 controller on the motherboard that has
the CD-ROM connected to it.  It also has an Adaptec AHA-2940W/UW PCI SCSI
card that has a Seagate ST32550W drive connected to it.

The install seems to go fine, it sees the disk, allows me to partition it
and loads the OS.  It won't boot from the CD, but it will from a boot
floppy.  After the install, the system goes thru the BIOS startup and I get
errors on the 2940W controller

SCSI termination not found
SCSI BIOS not installed

I then get .... Insert system diskette in drive. Press any key to continue
Using the boot floppy from the install I get the following error

could not find kernel image: linux

This is my first attempt to install Linux on a system with SCSI so any help
would be appreciated.

Thanks

Jon Page
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





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From: Mark Schlegel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Netfilter, IPtables... what the heck is going on?
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 18:08:58 -0400


How about looking here for info

http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO-10.htm

also in there is the url:

http://netfilter.filewatcher.org/

I would stay looking at linuxdoc.org is the first place to
start.

Mark

On Tue, 8 May 2001, grooveman wrote:

>Hi.
>
>I have been struggling with this for several days now.
>
>I installed RH 7.1 to act as my gateway/router using IP masq for my
>internal machines.
>
>Low and behold, what do I find -- RH 7.1 kernel 2.4.x does not like to
>support ipchains!  Now, I know, I know... It has legacy support for
>this, however, I could not get ip_always_defrag and ip_masq_ftp going on
>it.  I have tried the stock kernel, and even recompiled my own -- and I
>configured just about every networking option as a module, and these did
>not show up anywhere on my system.
>
>Ipchains is not much use to me if I can't use ftp!  I looked around on
>the web and lurked in groups and found people with the same problem --
>but no real solutions were offered.
>
>So I made it my mission to learn iptables --which IS natively supported
>by 2.4.x.  After going nuts looking for ipnatctl (which is referenced in
>the iptables-howto), I finally found out that it has been incorporated
>into iptables (only lost a day or two there!)  So, how do I masq with
>iptables?  I looked around some more and found that the homesite of
>NETFILTER doesn't appear to be functioning (at least in the last few
>days) http://netfilter.kernelnotes.org .
>
>So -- My question is this:  How the heck are we supposed to know what to
>do with iptables?  The man page is almost useless here... it is simply
>too complex to contain in one man.
>
>Also:  Can anyone tell me how to get my machine to masq without having a
>forward policy of ACCEPT?
>
>Also:  What is the equivalent in IPTABLES of ipchains with a -y flag?
>
>IS THERE ANYWHERE A PERSON CAN GO TO ON THE WEB, OR IN THE BOOKSTORE TO
>LEARN HOW TO USE THIS TOOL?
>
>I know that I cannot be the only one frustrated with this.
>
>Thank you all!  (I feel a litte better now :0)   )
>
>Chris


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From: "Ian Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Netfilter, IPtables... what the heck is going on?
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 15:19:51 -0700


comments inline below...

"grooveman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> So -- My question is this:  How the heck are we supposed to know
> what to do with iptables?  The man page is almost useless here...
> it is simply too complex to contain in one man.

The HOWTO's are good. They will reveal all :)
http://netfilter.samba.org/unreliable-guides/packet-filtering-HOWTO/in
dex.html
http://netfilter.samba.org/unreliable-guides/NAT-HOWTO/index.html

> Also:  Can anyone tell me how to get my machine to masq without
> having a forward policy of ACCEPT?

Do you have a static IP or dynamic. Once again:
http://netfilter.samba.org/unreliable-guides/NAT-HOWTO/index.html

> Also:  What is the equivalent in IPTABLES of ipchains with a -y
> flag?

iptables ... -p tcp --syn ...

> IS THERE ANYWHERE A PERSON CAN GO TO ON THE WEB, OR IN THE
> BOOKSTORE TO LEARN HOW TO USE THIS TOOL?

http://netfilter.samba.org/
http://netfilter.filewatcher.org/
http://netfilter.gnumonks.org/

> I know that I cannot be the only one frustrated with this.
>
> Thank you all!  (I feel a litte better now :0)   )

Letting off a little steam can be a good thing. Keep at it! Netfilter
is not that hard, you just need to give it a little time to absorb
(and forget about ipchains).




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From: Thomas SMETS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: Lilo with WinNT
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 22:51:47 GMT



Well a few short nights later I can say the following :
1�. Installing a second laptop with a very similar environment didn't
raise the issue of having trouble booting. It must therefore be an issue
of lilo. However as none raised errors in my lilo.conf I beleive the
issue must reside somewhere else. 
I can also say that I ran many (many) times the lilo tomake sure my
lilo.conf was well written. Sounds thus there is an issue in my
lilo.conf but none raised it & I can't see any.
2�. To recover the full PC (mean the two OSes) I did a recovery install
of WIN2000 & managed to run a prompt executable that the recovery
install proposes (CLEANMBR). This sort out the problem but doesn't say
what bothers Win2000 on my machine.

My personnal gess is that the TOSHIBA Satellite Pro 4300 has some issues
with the different startup phases as a know bug seem the lost of
accessibility of the BIOS while changing the order the different devices
are used to boot. I set up the bios for the following : cd-rom -->
floppy --> IDE0, but it today (after an install of Win2000) boots in the
following Floppy --> IDE0 --> CD-ROM (which is pointless).

Regards,

Thomas,









Trevor wrote:
> 
> With hda1 (you primary Win2K device) formatted as NTFS you will need to use
> the NT boot loader and then configure it to load Lilo. Looks like you've
> overwritten the MBR when configuring lilo.
> 
> Linux will let you read but not modify an NFTS partition.
> 
> If you choose to run Win2K on FAT32 then none of this is an issue and you
> can use lilo as the only boot loader and read/modify your 'NT' files.
> 
> You don't require any X to run Linux
> 
> Trevor
> 
> See the posting
> "Thomas SMETS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > Hi Horst,
> >
> > I'm currently runnin (trying to run) a very similar configration to
> > yours.
> > I installed Win2000 then managed to ahve Linux (Distro is Mandrake). I
> > worked out the fact that the linux won't work properly unless I install
> > the XFree4, but I now seem to be unable to boot in Win2000.
> > My disk is partition like this :
> > /hda1 : 1 Gb --> Win2000 NTFS (Type 07 in cfdisk)
> > /hda5 : 1.5Gb --> /usr Ext2
> > /hda6 : 2 Gb --> Data Win FAT32
> > /hda7 : 2 GB --> Pgrm Win Fat32
> > /hda8 : 520Mb --> Swap
> > /hda9 : 800Mb --> / Ext2
> > /hda10 : 1.7Gb --> /opt Ext2
> >
> > The system boots fine in Linux but doesn't seem to be able to view the
> > Win partition anymore...
> > When requesting to boot up in Win it just says
> > Loading Win
> > And then nothing .... Here below you may find attached copy of my
> > lilo.conf that I've modified a few times now without success (without
> > forgetting to /sbin/lilo afterwards each time).
> >
> > Can you help ?
> >
> > Tx,
> >
> > Thomas,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [tsmets@Calvin /tmp]$ cat /mnt/floppy/lilo.conf
> > boot=/dev/hda
> > map=/boot/map
> > install=/boot/boot.b
> > vga=normal
> > default=win
> > keytable=/boot/be-latin1.klt
> > lba32
> > prompt
> > timeout=50
> > message=/boot/message
> > menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
> > image=/boot/vmlinuz-secure
> >         label=linux
> >         root=/dev/hda9
> >         read-only
> > image=/boot/vmlinuz
> >         label=linux-up
> >         root=/dev/hda9
> >         read-only
> > image=/boot/vmlinuz
> >         label=failsafe
> >         root=/dev/hda9
> >         append=" failsafe"
> >         read-only
> > other=/dev/hda1
> >         label=win
> > # end of /etc/lilo.conf
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thu May  3 01:19:21 CEST 2001
> >
> > Thomas SMETS                        e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Av. de la Braban�onne 133 / 3       Tel. : +32 (0)2 742. 05. 94.
> > 1030 Bruxelles
> > ======= Quote of the Day =========
> > Be braver -- you can't cross a chasm in two small jumps.
> > ========= End of Quote ===========

-- 
Tue May  8 21:33:54 CEST 2001

Thomas SMETS                        e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Av. de la Braban�onne 133 / 3       Tel. : +32 (0)2 742. 05. 94.
1030 Bruxelles
======= Quote of the Day =========
Science and religion are in full accord but science and faith are in
complete
discord.
========= End of Quote ===========

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From: TGOS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Netfilter, IPtables... what the heck is going on?
Date: 8 May 2001 18:27:04 -0500

[Posted and mailed, since I had to remove a few NGs from the header; my server
doesn't carry them]

On Tue, 08 May 2001 21:21:33 GMT, grooveman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Low and behold, what do I find -- RH 7.1 kernel 2.4.x does not like to
> support ipchains!

It does not?
Well, I have SuSE 7.1 installed, that uses a 2.4.0 Kernel and it supports
ipchains without problems, after you installed the module for it.
One simple "modprobe ipchains" and the problem was gone.

I think we are both in a similar situation:
One PC with Internet connection should work as Router (with MASQ, because we
only have one public IP address), to give a whole private network of PCs
Internet access as well...right?

Right now I'm building a LFS system on my router and the post you are reading
right now was sent to you through this router, currently working with ipchains.
(to be more precisely: I'm typing this while GCC compiles GLIBC, operated
through SSH access from my workstation...geeez, that takes forever, even on a
550 MHz machine with 128 MB RAM)

> Ipchains is not much use to me if I can't use ftp!

I can and I don't have any FTP module installed.
I downloaded plenty of source code of FTP servers today, using WGET.

On my Windows machine I had to enable PASV for all FTP clients to work, but
after I've done that, everything was working fine, without ip_masq_ftp
installed (I guess WGET uses PASV as standard setting).

> So I made it my mission to learn iptables

That will be my next problem. Once my new LFS system is running, I will have to
write some really good forwarding filters, after all the system should be
secure as well.

 (right now everything is widely open, I guess a good hacker would have root
access within 15 minutes ^_^ But I had no choice, I needed Internet access to
get those source packages).

> So -- My question is this:  How the heck are we supposed to know what to
> do with iptables?

Good question.
I was browsing the WEB for about one hour today, finding nearly nothing of
interest, except one page.
I don't know if this one is helpful (I had no time to read it so far), but it
looked good, so I bookmarked it.
It may not exactly meet your expectations (personally I believe your Linux
knowledge is far beyond my horizon), but maybe it is at least a bit helpful:
http://www.boingworld.com/workshops/linux/iptables-tutorial/

> I know that I cannot be the only one frustrated with this.

Probably not...but right now I would be already happy if I could compile
FileUtils 4.0, but GCC just refuses to compile it, because
"macro 'strndup' used without args"!??
 
Oh, I see GLIBC is ready...finally.
Time to go on.

Good luck for your quest.

-- 
TGOS

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From: "Jean Berthomieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH7.1 - Can't telnet or SSH in from another host
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 02:07:51 +0200

several points to check:
1) is your network ok? can you ping from one computer to other (on both
sides)? don't use names just IP addresses.
If you can't, fix this first.
2) telnet and ssh don't work the same way on RH systems (telnet is fired
from xinetd while ssh is a standalone server).
3) login as a non root user on the server pc. Then try to telnet to the very
same pc you are on : telnet localhost. If you can't there may be a problem
with your telnet server. On RH 7.1 you need to install two packages:
telnet-0.17-10 (client) AND telnet-server-0.17-10 (server) are they both
installed? Don't worry with /etc/hosts.allow /etc/hosts.deny from straight
distro, they are both empty (just comments), and that's what you need. Check
that /etc/xinetd.d/telnet in not disabled - It was not in 7.0 but now it is
in 7.1 though a comment still says "# default: on" ! You should replace last
line "disable = yes" by disable =  no". Now you must reload xinetd daemon so
it takes care of your change: "/etc/init.d/xinetd reload" (or "restart"). By
the way, check xinetd will run at start-up: "/sbin/chkconfig --list xinetd"
it should be "on" at level 3, 4 and 5.
Now you can try to telnet locally. Don't try to log as root. It's not
allowed by default, and not a good idea to change this if you are not on a
_very_ secured network: You will send clear root password, that can be
sniffed easily.
4) now ssh. it is not filtered by xinetd daemon. So you check that it's on:
"chkconfig --list sshd" it should be on at level 2, 3, 4 and 5.
Check it is running "/etc/init.d/sshd status" if not then "/etc/init.d/sshd
start". It may compute a host key at first time. Now try to ssh to local
host. it may ask you to accept a host key. Just say "yes". Then you have ssh
OK (kindof a secured telnet) You can use it to "telnet" from a remote host,
because password aren't sent thru network. An encrypted protocol is use
instead. You can configure some files in ~/.ssh so you won't be asked your
password to connect, everytime. Read the "man ssh". By th way, there is a
good ssh client for windows freely downloadable from www.ssh.com. It can do
file transfer (sftp) too "a la Cute-FTP" from Windows (drag and drop).  Good
Luck!



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pun Kuan Tou)
Subject: compiling kernel ....
Date: 8 May 2001 23:58:50 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

when I recompile my custom kernel, 
it have many warnig...
like the following...
/tmp/ccp3pr09.s: Assembler messages:
/tmp/ccp3pr09.s:109: Warning: using `%eax' instead of `%ax' due to `l' suffix
/tmp/ccp3pr09.s:110: Warning: using `%eax' instead of `%ax' due to `l' suffix
but I success to compile...
is that any problem??

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From: "�̼���" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: compiling kernel ....
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 09:24:54 +0900
Reply-To: "�̼���" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

No problem I think.... :-)

"Pun Kuan Tou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> when I recompile my custom kernel,
> it have many warnig...
> like the following...
> /tmp/ccp3pr09.s: Assembler messages:
> /tmp/ccp3pr09.s:109: Warning: using `%eax' instead of `%ax' due to `l'
suffix
> /tmp/ccp3pr09.s:110: Warning: using `%eax' instead of `%ax' due to `l'
suffix
> but I success to compile...
> is that any problem??
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: compiling kernel ....
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 00:35:48 GMT

On 8 May 2001 23:58:50 GMT, Pun Kuan Tou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>when I recompile my custom kernel, 
>it have many warnig...
>like the following...
>/tmp/ccp3pr09.s: Assembler messages:
>/tmp/ccp3pr09.s:109: Warning: using `%eax' instead of `%ax' due to `l' suffix
>/tmp/ccp3pr09.s:110: Warning: using `%eax' instead of `%ax' due to `l' suffix
>but I success to compile...
>is that any problem??

ignore the warnings.  Compiling linux generates them by the hundred full.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux reads only first session from a multi session CD
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 09 May 2001 00:37:14 GMT

On Tue, 08 May 2001 12:06:14 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
staggered into the Black Sun and said:
>After reading a few articles I understand that Linux (in my case
>Mandrake 8.0, kernel 2.4.3) STILL reads the first session from a
>multi-session CD in stead of the last session (indeed it does after
>testing). This means I can't read my CD-R I made containing two
>sessions, because only the file-listing of the first session is shown.
>Using the -o session=xx only gives me an error message that the session
>does not exists, but it does, because in Windows the CD is read in full
>(all files in both sessions). So it's not a hardware issue, but
>typically a Linux problem. 
>
>I don't want to burn CD's at this point, I only want to read the entire
>content of the multi-session CD (i.e. using gtktalog). What can I do to
>accomplish this, or can't I ?

The only time I've seen this happen is when I've burned a multisession
CD incorrectly (bad options to mkisofs, etc.)  If the CD-writing
software used doesn't close the session properly, weird things could
happen, including not being able to see all the sessions.  Some
commercial CD-writing software is of... questionable quality, and may do
that.

I have heard that Joliet extensions are not quite compatible with
multi-session CDs, but am not sure whether to believe it or not.
(experiment coming up later on...)  I have also noticed that many CD-RWs
will not recognize a session you've just burned unless you eject the CD
and re-insert it.

Kernel 2.4.3, eh?  What does kernel 2.2.x do?

-- 
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin /  Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com     /   Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/    I hit a seg fault....

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Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 20:01:08 -0500
From: Wouldnt You Like to Know <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Red Hat Linux 7 With RCA (AT&T@Home) Cable Modem


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I recently added a Red Hat Linux partition to my Windows 98 2nd Edition
P.C.   For Windows 98, I am using the AT&T @Home Cable Modem Service
using an RCA digital / broadband cable modem.  I am also using a Netgear
RT314 Router.

My NIC card is a SMC EZ Connect USB.

I have seen several somewhat condensed articles on getting AT&T@Home
cable modems to run with Red Hat Linux, but nothing has been very
comprehensive.  It also seems the configuration may be different based
on the geography you are in.  I happen to be in the Chicagoland (western
suburbs) area.

Has anybody seen or can point me to a document / article which describes
in detail how to set a AT&T@Home Cable Modem with my Red Hat Linux 7
system ?  If so, please point me the way !!  What makes this worse is my
Windows 98 modem is only Windows compatible and won't work on my Linux
system.

Any thoughts / comments appreciated and thanks in advance.

My email address is:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Steve

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I recently added a Red Hat Linux partition to my Windows 98 2nd Edition
P.C.&nbsp;&nbsp; For Windows 98, I am using the AT&amp;T @Home Cable Modem
Service using an RCA digital / broadband cable modem.&nbsp; I am also using
a Netgear RT314 Router.
<p>My NIC card is a SMC EZ Connect USB.
<p>I have seen several somewhat condensed articles on getting AT&amp;T@Home
cable modems to run with Red Hat Linux, but nothing has been very comprehensive.&nbsp;
It also seems the configuration may be different based on the geography
you are in.&nbsp; I happen to be in the Chicagoland (western suburbs) area.
<p>Has anybody seen or can point me to a document / article which describes
in detail how to set a AT&amp;T@Home Cable Modem with my Red Hat Linux
7 system ?&nbsp; If so, please point me the way !!&nbsp; What makes this
worse is my Windows 98 modem is only Windows compatible and won't work
on my Linux system.
<p>Any thoughts / comments appreciated and thanks in advance.
<p>My email address is:&nbsp; <u><font color="#FF0000">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</font></u>
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