Linux-Setup Digest #327, Volume #21 Tue, 29 May 01 12:13:15 EDT
Contents:
Re: linux on large hard drive (Eugenio Mastroviti)
"Cloning support" (Eugenio Mastroviti)
Re: Lynx through proxy (Bernhard Mogens Ege)
Re: JDK1.3 Under Linux ("�yvind Knudsen")
Re: Is there any vgetty set up How-To ("xhc")
Re: Starting service usbmgr... Failed (Eugenio Mastroviti)
Re: JDK1.3 Under Linux (Rex Dieter)
Re: How to configure HUGE swap? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: RH7.1 Kernel compilation ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: getting linux to recognize NTFS ("Peter T. Breuer")
Via VT82C686 Sound Card ("" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
Madrake 8.0 and Nvidia openGL ("KW")
Sony Vaio 505 + Mandrake 8 ??? (John McCabe)
Re: Can't Telnet, FTP or Send Email to Linux Box (Dean Thompson)
ntp server and client setup. (PHRoth)
Re: looking for a text base user interface programming editer for C ("Lanzon")
process monitoring using java??? ("Ben Tan")
Re: linux install laptop (Ed McCorduck)
Re: Sensor module for via686 motherboard (K133A) ("Wayne Osborn")
Re: Connecting Redhat to MS Small Biz Server (Dean Thompson)
c++ IDE like Microsoft's Visual C++, is there one ("MFC L driver")
Resizing NTFS (NT 4.0) and installing linux ( RH6.2) (Med HAM)
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From: Eugenio Mastroviti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux on large hard drive
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 13:41:51 +0100
mike wrote:
> > You need the newest version of lilo, to boot a kernel above the 1024
> > cylinder. And I think you need a 2.4.4 kernel to boot on a P4.
I've got a P4 and boots perfectly with 2.2.18 (SuSE 7.1). Don't know if
they patched it or whatever, but I've upgraded to 2.4.4 only a couple of
weeks ago.
Eugenio
> >
> > --
> > Mvh. / Kind regards
> > Henrik Farre ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> >
> > Webpage: http://Welcome.to/Webbench
> > -If I where God, I would recompile the penguin with --enable-flying.
> >
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From: Eugenio Mastroviti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: "Cloning support"
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 13:47:14 +0100
I'm trying to add nVIDIA GeForce 3D/OpenGL support to my SuSE 7.1 system
with (custom) kernel 2.4.4. When I downloaded the kernel driver sources
and followed the instructions to compile it, all I got was that my
kernel does not support cloning. I understand that's got to do with the
presence (or lack) of /proc/config.gz - but how the hell do I enable
this kind of support? I couldn't find anything in the whole source tree
about this entry in /proc, and I'm out of ideas.
Thanks in advance
Eugenio
P.S. No, I did not try to gzip .config and copy it in /proc :))
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From: Bernhard Mogens Ege <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lynx through proxy
Date: 29 May 2001 14:58:48 +0200
>>>>> "Jesper" == Jesper Petersen <jesperp**Delete**@nork.auc.dk> writes:
>> That isn't a proxy, its a proxy autoconfiguration script (JavaScript that
>> tells the browser what proxy to use for what URLs.) Find out the actual
>> proxy.
> I've also tried proxy.civil.auc.dk and wwwproxy.civil.auc.dk that should be a
> proxy, shouldn't it?
> Is it correct that only lynx.cfg that have to be modified to use a proxy?
I had trouble make lynx using a proxy, and no matter what file in my
home directory I tried to configure a proxy in, lynx would accept it
(ignored it). The only file I had success with was /etc/lynx.cfg.
Bernhard
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From: "�yvind Knudsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: JDK1.3 Under Linux
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 14:58:38 +0200
"Christopher Fairbairn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9evn96$ols$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi Again...
>
> Christopher Fairbairn wrote:
> > Thinking it could simply be a missing path in my path string I tried
> > /usr/java/jdk1.3/bin/java which gives me different output....
> >
> > /usr/java/jdk1.3/bin/java: /usr/bin/cut: No such file or directory
> > /usr/java/jdk1.3/bin/i386/native_threads/java: error while loading
shared
> > libraries: libjvm.so: cannot load share object file: No such file or
> > directory.
>
> Message To Self: Don't accidently press Alt-S......
>
> As I was saying I can't get the Sun JDK1.3 working on my Linux Machine
> (Redhat 7.1 based).
>
> the sighted shared object, libjvm.so is locatable in many directories
under
> jre/lib/i386/, ie native_threads, green_threads, classic etal.
>
> What post RPM install steps do I need to do to get a Java Development
> Environment working?
Installing Java on RH 7.1 requires some effort from you, due to some
annoying
bugs found in jdk 1.3.0_02 (I think).
1)
Install jdk (from sun) with:
rpm -iv j2sdk-1_3_0_02-linux.rpm
2a)
Then add these entries into your .bash_profile:
PATH=$PATH:/usr/java/jdk1.3.0_02/bin
LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.2.5
2b)
Export the new variables:
Append "PATH" and "LD_ASSUME_KERNEL" (without quotes) to the line that
starts with EXPORT.
If you can not find this line, write this at the end of .bash_profile:
EXPORT PATH LD_ASSUME_KERNEL
3)
Then create a symbolic link with the command from a shell:
ln -s /bin/cut /usr/bin/cut
This should do the work and java should now work properly.
Good luck!
�yvind Knudsen
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From: "xhc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there any vgetty set up How-To
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 21:09:16 +0800
One more problem, after change the mgetty to vgetty in inittab, fax and
voice are work well, but data does not work. The modem response with "line
busy" to caller...Do you have any idea about this?
"xhc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ���g��l�� news:9evucr$s74$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Robert,
> Thanks you for your information, by following the document it's work now.
> But have some minor trouble, the first is creating the greeting message, I
> think I can solve it by myself. The second one, may be you can help that
is
> in leaving message how to let modem know the message is stoped.
>
> "Robert_L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ?????
> news:9ev73l$4b0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > xhc wrote:
> >
> > > As a new hand to Linux Red Hat 6.2, I have set up the sendfax and work
> > > fine, according to the documentation come with the mgetty+sendfax. But
I
> > > can not make the voice operation work because lack of documentation. I
> had
> > > tried to read the voice.conf but have no idea how to make it working.
> > > Would appreciate if anyone have make the voice work can post some tips
> on
> > > how to do it. Thanks!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > Here is some documentation:
> > http://alpha.greenie.net/vgetty/
> > If you manage to get it up and running as a newbie, please post how you
> did
> > it and cc me. I have all of the documentation but haven't got it
working
> > yet. (mandrake 8.0, zoltrix rainbow serial modem)
> > all the best,
> > Robert
> >
> > --
> > remove spamfree when replying directly
>
>
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From: Eugenio Mastroviti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Starting service usbmgr... Failed
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 14:14:29 +0100
Jeff Perry wrote:
>
> I have compiled my kernel to not include any usb stuff, but it still tries
> to load the usbmgr and fails. Of course it fails, I don't have a usb
> controller. Can someone tell how to keep the system from trying to load the
> usbmgr at boot time? Thanks, Jeff
you might want to check /etc/modules.conf to see if there's any
reference to usb modules there.
Eugenio
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From: Rex Dieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: JDK1.3 Under Linux
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 08:45:33 -0500
�yvind Knudsen wrote:
> "Christopher Fairbairn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9evn96$ols$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Hi Again...
>> What post RPM install steps do I need to do to get a Java Development
>> Environment working?
> Installing Java on RH 7.1 requires some effort from you, due to some
> annoying
> bugs found in jdk 1.3.0_02 (I think).
Or install jdk 1.3.1 where these bugs are fixed.
--
Rex A. Dieter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Computer System Administrator http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/
Mathematics and Statistics
University of Nebraska Lincoln
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to configure HUGE swap?
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 15:36:51 +0200
Peet Grobler <peetgr at absa.co.za> wrote:
>>Peet Grobler <peetgr at absa.co.za> wrote:
>>> Also, afiak, Linux supports only up to 128mb swap partitions. Am I
> correct
>>
>>You know wrong. That hasn't been true since 2.0.* days, several years
>>ago. And anyone who needs 128MB swap had better go and buy some ram.
>>
> Really? Can't believe I got so behind the times...
> And what do you mean? I'm running a machine with 128MB swap. And I can't buy
But you don't use it. If you did, your computer woudl run at the speed
of disk (i.e. like a 20MHz 386), and you wouldn't want to! Isn't that
obvious?
> ram, the SIMM slots are full. (32MB Memory).
> However I have to say that I re-compiled the kernel last night, and about
> 4MB iirc was used. Just didn't need the space yet, once I do I'll remove it.
You mean that you do see what I mean?
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH7.1 Kernel compilation
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 15:38:26 +0200
In article <9edce9$f7k$00$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Peter T. Breuer"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> it doesnT compile. Several errors at different places. When I compile
>>> it on
>> For example? What is the first error?
> In function 'irc_nat_expected': net/network.o (.text+0x42933) undef.
> reference to "ip_irc_lock"
This is a link error, so it "compiled" (to be pedantic). You are
missing a library. Since this is the kernel, you are missing something
else that did not compile (there are no external libraries). There
should have been an earlier message, at least warning about this
symbol.
"ip_irc_lock" does not appear in any of my source files for kernel
2.4.3, so ...
>>> my RH 7.0 PC it works fine. Any hints ? changing the line from gcc
>>> into
>>
>> What do you mean by "it"? Did you change the location? Re-untar the
>> sources? Are you talking about a different kernel? You need to be
>> precise.
> "It" means the same sources, same config (Anything else makes no sense ;)
What makes sense to you is not necessarily what makes sense to me, and
I have no way of knowing if you normally make sense or not, or if you
are making sense here, or if what you believe is sense really is ...
> )I compile it on the RH7.0 PC
> and move the compiled bzImage and modules on the RH7.1 machine
> (I make an tar.gz from /usr/src/linux-2.4.3 from the RH7 PC)
.. no you didn't. Whatever you think you did, it wasn't that, as the
2.4.3 sources do not contain the symbol that you say you compiled
into your network.o. I suspect you have messed up or mixed up your
archives, or untarred one over another, or something.
I can't find your symbol in 2.2.18 sources either. I do see
"__ip_masq_lock". The 2.4.3 sources contain "ip_fw_lock" and
"ip_nat_lock" and "ip_ftp_lock" so the symbol name looks reasonable.
I would guess that your code has been patched. Is that it?
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: getting linux to recognize NTFS
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 15:39:41 +0200
Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kenny McCormack wrote:
>> >> mount /dev/sda1 /win2000 -t ntfs
>> >>
>> >> but I get the message that 'ntfs' is an invalid type.
>> >>
>> >
>> >load the ntfs.o module?
>> >But don't even think about writing to that partition
>>
>> Why do you keep saying that? The fact is that it does work, most of the
>> time, under NT4/NTFS4, so as long as your backups are kept current (as
>> they, of course, should be), what's the big deal?
> Well, one good reason to say that is that the kernel source explicitly
> says that the "experimental" NTFS writing support is, ahem,
> "experimental", "not very well tested", and "DANGEROUS" (their
> capitalization, not mine). Sounds to me like a thing to avoid
> if you have data you care about on your NT partition.
Last thing I saw, ntfs write dodn't work, except for overwrites of an
already existing file that didn't enlarge it.
Peter
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From: "<toor>" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Via VT82C686 Sound Card
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 10:32:24 -0400
I have a Via VT82C686 Sound Card, and Its not working in Linux. Redhat 7.0
detects it, but after it detects it, it completly freezes the system. I
don't know what to do. Do I need to change anything in the BIOS like the
IRQ's or DMA channel?
Thanks
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From: "KW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Madrake 8.0 and Nvidia openGL
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 09:44:07 -0500
Hadn't read the article myself, but it is supposed to be a newbie guide to
getting this setup to work... See lots of posts about this subject and
thought this might help...
http://www.littlewhitedog.com/reviews_other_00022.asp
--
KW
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From: John McCabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sony Vaio 505 + Mandrake 8 ???
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 15:56:39 +0100
Sony Vaio 505 + Mandrake 8
Has anybody managed to get this installed? Its falling over for me when
the setup starts to probe the pcmcia on the vaio...
Please help,
/John
ps. I've currently got Redhat7.1 installed, it had no problems at all.
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From: Dean Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.redhat,nl.comp.os.linux.installatie
Subject: Re: Can't Telnet, FTP or Send Email to Linux Box
Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 00:58:01 +1000
Hi Frank,
> I just installed the "boxed" version 7.1 of Red Hat Linux using a custom
> install. I made sure the firewall was disabled, yet I cannot Telnet, FTP
> or send email to my Linux box. I have network connectivity including a
> working DNS server - I can ping to/from the box via hostname.
First you need to check to make sure that the packages are installed. A
simple test is to do the following:
rpm -qa | grep telnet-server
rpm -qa | grep wuftpd
rpm -qa | grep sendmail
If you have checked all of this and they all return packages then you have the
correct packages installed. The next thing is to check the files:
/etc/xinetd.d/telnet
/etc/xinetd.d/wu-ftpd
/etc/xinetd.d/sendmail
and check to make sure that they don't have the line: "disable=yes" in them.
If they do, you need to remove the line or change the line to read something
like: "disable=no". You can then issue the command: /etc/rc.d/init.d/xinetd
restart.
This should restart your services.
You might want to take a look in /var/log/messages to see whether or not
xinetd logged what services were started when it restarted.
See ya
Dean Thompson
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| Dean Thompson | E-mail - [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
| Bach. Computing (Hons) | ICQ - 45191180 |
| PhD Student | Office - <Off-Campus> |
| School Comp.Sci & Soft.Eng | Phone - +61 3 9903 2787 (Gen. Office) |
| MONASH (Caulfield Campus) | Fax - +61 3 9903 1077 |
| Melbourne, Australia | |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PHRoth)
Subject: ntp server and client setup.
Date: 29 May 2001 08:10:27 -0700
Hello,
I would like to know how to setup a ntp (not xntp) server and a client on the
same subnet.
Exanple: My server access a router outside and get the correct clock.
The client ask the server for setting its clock.
I've looked some infos about server and peer seting in /etc/ntp.conf but I
don't know how to setup. something else?
Could anyone send me some light?
...and examples...
Many thanks in advance.
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From: "Lanzon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: looking for a text base user interface programming editer for C
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 23:14:57 +0800
Sorry, but you don't get better then VIM!
The true programmer's tool :)
--
-Lanzon
David. E. Goble <goble@gtech> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi all;
>
> I hate learning new things. Espeally a bunch of keyboard commands.
>
> In my first computer course, we had to use a word-star type
> (console/text base interface) word editor (like pico). However it had
> a pop-down menubar at the top of the screen, so you could navigate
> this or use the keyboard short cuts. It was quite a fast small word
> editor. The pop-down menubar was good because it gave you the chance
> to use it, before you learned the keyboard commands. Then as you get
> better, you can start using the keyboard, to speed things up a bit. I
> miss it as my copy is long gone.
>
> Anyway, is there something similar with the power of emacs or a
> wrapper for emacs.
>
> Or anyother text UI programming editor?
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From: "Ben Tan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: process monitoring using java???
Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 12:27:35 +0800
hi,
I would like to know if there is any program utilies like top that I can
use to extract each process uptime? I can't find any info about the /proc/
directory that I can parse to extract the info. I would be greatly
appreciated if any of you can help ....thanxs...
regards
ben
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From: Ed McCorduck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux install laptop
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 15:30:05 -0000
william wrote:
>
> I have corel linux 2nd edition cd. I can make a boot disk but when I
> boot, the word lilo comes up,then my screen fills up with a window and
it
> says "loading corel linux" then under that it says "starting corel linux"
> and then it freezes, nothing,zilch,nada.
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
I had exactly the same problem until I realized that *both* the boot
floppy *and* the installation CD that I had made had to remain in their
respective drives during reboot. Owing, I suppose, to the bizarre way my
mind warps simple logic, I assumed for some strange reason that because my
laptop can't boot from a CD and thus didn't boot from the Linux
installation CD I had inserted, I had to take it out before inserting the
installation floppy and trying to reboot from that (I don't think I got
that idea from reading Corel's instructions). It did reboot from the
floppy, but then, exactly as you described, there was the
message "Starting Corel Linux..." and nothing else happened for the
longest time; no Windows-like "drive D: is not available" or anything like
that. From reading the various replies to your post, it occurred to me to
keep the CD in there the next time, and voil�, it worked: the installation
proceded from the floppy to the CD, and Corel Linux ended up installing
perfectly on my laptop.
www.McCorduck.ws
--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/
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From: "Wayne Osborn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sensor module for via686 motherboard (K133A)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 23:30:20 +0800
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
> I did the same for an 8KTA3 mobo and various versions of the 2.4.*
> kernels, except that i2c is built in to 2.4, so I only had to fetch
> lm_sensors. IIRC, I just removed the lm_sensors RPM before installing
> the kit that I downloaded from the site that you mentioned.
>
Yeh, I removed the RPM lm_sensors too!
> Wayne, I'm curious about your expericenes with that mobo, though. I and
> a number of other people on linux-kernel have had nothing but trouble
> with it, and Alan Cox has all but given up on getting it fixed without a
> hint from VIA about what the problem is.
Look, to be honest, I built the system Friday and only installed Linux
saturday.
Initially, the system was loaded with Windows 95 (GRRRR) so as to play
with overclocking!!! Windows is good for some things! The machine would
not boot Windows reliably over 1.2Ghz, sometimes at 1.3Ghz, but rarely.
In desperation, I gave up overclocking and went on the Load Linux etc.
This was never intended to be a Windows box.
Anyway, it is now running at 1.5Ghz (10x150) running genome@home the CPU
is around 39c.
As of yet I can;t say I have experienced any problems under Linux, ONLY
WONDOZE, and thats gone now :)
Funny, only today did I find kernel notes regarding the VIA / 2.4
problems. Are the problems real? SHould I stay with the 2.2.16 kernel?
>
> Bobby Bryant
> Austin, Texas
--
Wayne A. Osborn, SCADA Engineer.[dnar AT iinet DOT net DOT au]
Registered Linux User #212818. [2.2.16-22-Win4Lin-686] [i686]
11:20pm up 3:03, 2 users, load average: 2.10, 2.12, 2.09
...It was kinda like stuffing the wrong card in a computer, when you're
stickin' those artificial stimulants in your arm.
-- Dion, noted computer scientist
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From: Dean Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Connecting Redhat to MS Small Biz Server
Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 01:30:39 +1000
Hi Danny,
> I have just installed RedHat V7 to a new PC (PIII-1000) and would like to
> hook it up to our server which is running Microsoft Backoffice Small
> Business Server 4.5 (SBS). This is basically Windows NT Server V4.0 with
> Proxy Server 2.0, Exchange 5.5 and a few other things.
>
> Here is the setup: Server name - ntserver1, domain name - acnet2, Server IP
> 10.0.0.2, DHCP enabled (scope 10.0.0.x).
>
> Is it possible for the Linux computer to log into that server (for
> file/print sharing)? If so, how?
Yes, you can use SAMBA to make the connection. More specifically, you will be
intersted in the "smbmount" and "smbclient" programs. If you take a look back
through the newsgroup you will see a number of posts on how this can be done.
> Also, can the Linux machine be set up to go through the Proxy Server for
> internet access? Again, how is this achieved??? I believe that you have
> to be authenticated as a user on the domain to have access to the Proxy
> server.
You might have a problem here, because it looks like the Ms-Proxy server seems
to cater more for Windows users that Linux users. Quite a number of people
have reported errors when trying to setup their browsers to use the MS Proxy
Server. So you may run into problems there.
See ya
Dean Thompson
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+____________________________+____________________________________________+
| Dean Thompson | E-mail - [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
| Bach. Computing (Hons) | ICQ - 45191180 |
| PhD Student | Office - <Off-Campus> |
| School Comp.Sci & Soft.Eng | Phone - +61 3 9903 2787 (Gen. Office) |
| MONASH (Caulfield Campus) | Fax - +61 3 9903 1077 |
| Melbourne, Australia | |
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From: "MFC L driver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: c++ IDE like Microsoft's Visual C++, is there one
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 17:24:48 +0100
Is there a Visual C++ IDE for Linux Mandrake. If so where can I get it, What
is it called?
TIA
Ian Turnbull
07961 931941
mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web : www.turnbui.freeserve.co.uk
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Med HAM)
Subject: Resizing NTFS (NT 4.0) and installing linux ( RH6.2)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 16:09:16 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi all,
I have a machine in which NT 4.0 ( NTFS filesystem) is installed in
one partition.
I d' like to resize this partition in order to install RH 6.2 . I
tried Partition Magic and It complains about NT server ( it says that
I can't partition the NT Server).
Can anyone tell me if there is a solution which allow you to resize
this partition? may be booting a small linux from a floppy disk and
use a tool to achieve this?
any one who has any idea , please respond .
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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