Linux-Setup Digest #454, Volume #21              Sat, 16 Jun 01 12:13:12 EDT

Contents:
  Re: alsaconfig and suse 7.2/kernel2.4.4 (Robert Davies)
  Re: Red Hat 7.1 Email Problems (Robert Davies)
  Re: Want to build a portable fileserver to serve Win/MacOS (Robert Davies)
  Re: 2.4 Kernel Upgrade Questions (Robert Davies)
  Re: Enable inbound telnet on Mandrake 8.0? (Robert Davies)
  Re: CD-rom w/RH 6.2 (Robert Davies)
  Re: Installing Win2k AFTER Linux (John Thompson)
  Problem starting X ("Brian McAndrews")
  Re: Now I've gone and lost my hard disk (Stanislaw Flatto)
  licq 1.0.3 on RedHat 7.1 ("Milbertus")
  Q: ReiserFS or hardware error? ("Tony G.")
  Re: The Three Fingered Salute (Robert Davies)
  Re: Ports (Robert Davies)
  Re: Workaround to get HP Colorado IDE tape drives to work under RH7.1  (Leonard 
Evens)
  Re: Problem starting X (Jesper Petersen)
  Re: Problem starting X (Dave Uhring)
  Re: Linux on AMD (Dave Uhring)

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From: Robert Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: alsaconfig and suse 7.2/kernel2.4.4
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 13:42:33 +0100

Denis Leroy wrote:

> Bogislav Rauschert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:<9gddfn$1jeh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>> Hi!
>> 
>> I've installed Suse 7.2 on my AMD K6-II machine with Creative SB16
>> (orig.). After using Yast2 to get sound working, everything was fine (I
>> never used Yast2 before). But then I compiled a new kernel and now my
>> sound does not work anymore: instead I get these messages:
> 
> But misc/snd.o is not the alsa sound driver, isn'it the regular OSS driver
> ? In any case, your modules.conf files is setup to load that sound module,
> and it would seem that you installed a new kernel but did not install the
> new
> modules correctly. (did you do 'make modules' and  'make modules_install'
> ?). Also, run 'depmod' to update the modules info.
> 
> In any case, to restart the alsa driver you have to do
> 
>   /etc/rc.d/init.d/alsasound restart
> 
> 
> or something like that. that should give you an indication of what's
> happening. Any reason you want to use the alsa drivers ? I think the SB16
> is well supported by the native kernel sound modules.
> 
> -denis

Denis, ALSA is a large advance on previous sound handling, that SuSE and 
Mandrake support, althouth it's not made it to official kernel yet.

SuSE has a chap in handbook on how to compile own kernel, there are some 
pointers and versioning issues, which folk get stuck on because they ignore 
the book.

One difficulty may be that folk are ignoring the SuSE config files.

I have seen one post which suggested that ALSA needed a rebuild after you 
changed kernel versions, though I have my doubts about that one.

Rob

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From: Robert Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Hat 7.1 Email Problems
Crossposted-To: redhat.config,comp.os.linux.redhat
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 14:35:06 +0100

Tars Tarkas wrote:

> Any suggestions would be deeply appreciated.

In todays net, you should be glad of the improved security, thought it is a 
PITA when things 'break' because of it.

You might like to look at fetchmail(1) it is a very flexible program for 
POP, IMAP and other protocols, including ETRN for SMTP.  It will send 
collected mail on to localhost SMTP server, or a MDA.

You can also (probably) use an outgoing sendmail connection to fetch your 
mail with ETRN, as long as fallback MX supports it.

Rob

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From: Robert Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Want to build a portable fileserver to serve Win/MacOS
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 14:42:35 +0100

Anthony Oetzmann wrote:

> My plan is to stick a couple of hard disks full of my audio library in to
> a little Pentium box and have it probe around for Windows and Macintosh
> computers on a TCP/IP network and hook itself up as a password protected
> fileserver.
> 
> I'm no total beginner, but I'm certain somebody has already built these
> kinds of servers, so if anyone could provide information or pointers
> towards this, I'd keep everyone posted on my success or failure here.
> 
> On a note, I know I'll probably use Netatalk and Samba and I got both
> recent packages and a little Linux distro(a RedHat7 in fact) and the
> distro is running fine on a set-aside partition(plus boot and swap). I'll
> test any setups I come up with on a G4 Mac and Win2000 machines of
> friends.

Just try it, it's not rocket science, you need to read the netatalk HOWTOs, 
O'Reilly have put out copies of 'Samba' book, as Open Source, so you should 
find that somewhere.  A magazine I subscribe to, included it on their cover 
disk.

My main issue with netatalk (I did it with RH-6.2 and needed to compile up 
the asun version), was not wanting password administration overhead.

With Samba, it could just use the configured domain controllers for SMB 
shares.

You may find PAM useful, there are modules to fetch passwords from LDAP and 
Databases.

You can scan for open ports with security tools, to find the servers eg) 
things like nmap.

I'm not sure really what you said makes sense, as if the files are on the 
portable pentium, then the Win and Mac clients will just be able to see it, 
when it's added into their network.

Use DHCP client to get your IP settings, or reset them statically when you 
move networks.

Rob

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From: Robert Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2.4 Kernel Upgrade Questions
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 14:26:21 +0100

Rand Simberg wrote:

> I was reading an article that said that before upgrading to 2.4 from
> 2.2, I should upgrade modutils to at least version 2.4.
> 
> Unfortunately, I had already done the upgrade (on a RH6.2 system with
> a 2.2.19 kernel) before reading this.  However, I got no complaints.
> It might be because I didn't use any modules, but included my network
> and sound cards in the kernel build?
> 
> Anyway, RH doesn't have anything beyond 2.3 available for my
> distribution.  So, is it now, or was it ever, necessary for me to do
> the modutil upgrade, and if so, how do I do it from source?  Can
> someone point me to a good HOWTO for it?
> 
> I should note that I am having one problem with the upgrade.
> Sometimes after using a sound device (e.g., CD player), I lose the
> capability to use the taskbar in Gnome Enlightenment (i.e., nothing
> happens when I push buttons on it, or try to switch desktops, though
> the open windows still behave normally).

I'd say try using source RPM's for RH-7.1, and rebuilding them.  At one 
time it was a requirement to run glibc-2.2, but that may have been dropped.

Read /usr/src/linux/Documentation/Changes

If you don't upgrade things, you will never know when you will be afflicted 
by strange bugs, and could loose much time over it.  It is possible that 
things will fail in very strange ways.

It may be simpler to get a cheap copy of RH-7.1 and upgrade whole distro.

Rob

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From: Robert Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Enable inbound telnet on Mandrake 8.0?
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 14:22:34 +0100

Dave Uhring wrote:

> BethJon wrote:
> 
>> Hi
>> How do I enable telnet in Mandrake 8.0? It's a brand new install and I
>> want to be able to telnet into the machine from across the internet.
> 
> Enable telnet on a machine which is connected to the internet and very
> shortly your system will be owned by some script kiddie.  Use ssh.

Good advice, and if the machine across the internet is Win based, without 
ssh(1), go and find putty, which is a good ssh & telnet client for Win.

Rob

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From: Robert Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CD-rom w/RH 6.2
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 14:30:13 +0100

Larry Pazdernik wrote:

> I have RedHat Linux 6.2. Can someone help with the following problem?
> When my Pc boots up, Kudzu starts and says that it wants to remove my
> Cd-rom drive from my system, but I can't seem to get it to add the CD,
> or recognize it.
> 
> When I try to mount the CD after logging in , I get a message that says
> something like this:
> "/dev/cdrom is not a recognized as a block device" or something very
> similar."
> 
> The strange thing is, I used to run Red Hat Linux 5.2, and I could
> mount Cd's fine under 5.2, but 6.2 seems to want to remove the drive
> from the system.
> 
> Thanks in advance for your assistance.

I never had this problem with RH6.2, but I was using ATAPI CD ROMs, is your 
drive old, perhaps it needs special module support which istn't included in 
the 6.2 kernel by default?

kudzu may not be able to recognise it in that case.  Possibly the lines for 
the CD-ROM in modules.conf are wrong, but IIRC the CD-ROMs (ATAPI) anyway 
were built into the default kernel.


Rob


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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing Win2k AFTER Linux
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 07:25:37 -0500

John wrote:

> I have a dual boot Win98/Linux system in which the Win98 system is beyond
> help.
> 
> I wanted to renew my installation, but replace the Win98 partition with a
> Win 2000 NTFS partition, without upsetting Linux.
> 
> Is this possible?  I know Microsoft OS's have an aggressive installation
> routine that would overwrite the boot sector and make my Linux system
> unstartable.
> 
> Can someone advise me how to go about this, or perhaps direct me to a URL
> which explains how to preserve the Linux start instructions on the boot
> sector when I install Win 2000.  I am intending that the Win 2000
> installation would be a fresh one, not an upgrade.

Just make sure you have a working, bootable linux boot floppy
before you install W2K.  After you install W2K you will need to
boot linux from the floppy and re-configure to recognize the W2K
installation and then re-run lilo to write the new lilo boot
record into the MBR.

-- 


-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: "Brian McAndrews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem starting X
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 09:22:31 -0500

I get this error when I run startx:

could not init font path element unix/:7100,  removing from list

Fatal server error
Could not open default font "fixed"

Anybody got any ideas what's going on?

Thanks
Brian



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From: Stanislaw Flatto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Now I've gone and lost my hard disk
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 00:58:32 +1000

Not missing, simple unassigned, a partition can be created in this space and a
filesystem created (initiated, formatted, whatever).
Try extended in DOS.

Stanislaw.

Sean9182 wrote:

> well, I've lost a good 5GB of it. Here is what happened:  I recently
> partitioned my hard disk so I could make room for linux. It was doing something
> very wrong with windows and I didn't know how to fix it, so I went into fdisk
> and deleted the entire 5GB partition I had set up for linux. Now I am back in a
> working Windows environment with 5GB of memory missing. What can I do?
>
> -sean


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From: "Milbertus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: licq 1.0.3 on RedHat 7.1
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 10:47:12 -0400

I just installed Red Hat 7.1 on my system last night, but I'm having some
problems installing the licq 1.0.3 RPM that I downloaded from
http://www.licq.com.  I made sure to download the RPM made for Red Hat 7.0
or greater, but when I tried to install the RPM using GnomeRPM, I got an
error saying that I was missing two libraries:  libcrypto.so.0 and
libssl.so.0.  Do you know where I could download these libraries so I can
run licq?

Thanks in advance,
milbertus





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From: "Tony G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Q: ReiserFS or hardware error?
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 15:19:58 GMT

Greetings! I woke up this morning to a console full of errors. I've
got about 275 lines of these errors. Does anyone know if these are
specifically ReiserFS or hard drive/hardware errors.

I've also noticed that the errors occur when 'tar' tries to stat()
certain files. i.e. the errors appear on the console in tandem with
the tar command:

tar: /dev/rd/c2d26p2: Cannot stat: Permission denied
tar: /dev/rd/c2d26p3: Cannot stat: Permission denied
tar: /dev/rd/c2d26p4: Cannot stat: Permission denied
tar: /dev/rd/c2d26p5: Cannot stat: Permission denied
tar: /dev/rd/c2d26p6: Cannot stat: Permission denied
tar: /dev/rd/c2d26p7: Cannot stat: Permission denied

Can anything be done to repair/correct these? I've got backups, do I
need to go back to ext2? I've been running ReiserFS for 4 months with
no problems until now. Any advise would be great! Thanks!

Tony G.

System Specs:
===========================================================
Linux 2.4.5 #1 i586
ReiserFS version 3.6.25
233Mhz Pentium MMX
64MB RAM
HDA: Seagate - ST38410A (8.03 GB )
===========================================================
Errors:
===========================================================

Jun 16 04:02:00 zorak anacron[6308]: Updated timestamp for job
`cron.daily' to 2001-06-16
Jun 16 04:02:23 zorak kernel: hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
Jun 16 04:02:23 zorak kernel: hda: read_intr: error=0x40 {
UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=227066, sector=66416
Jun 16 04:02:23 zorak kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:02 (hda),
sector 66416
Jun 16 04:02:23 zorak kernel: vs-13070: reiserfs_read_inode2: i/o
failure occurred trying to find stat data of [2027 2724 0x0 SD]
Jun 16 04:02:23 zorak kernel: vs-13048: reiserfs_iget: bad_inode. Stat
data of (2027 2724) not found
Jun 16 04:02:28 zorak kernel: hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
Jun 16 04:02:28 zorak kernel: hda: read_intr: error=0x40 {
UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=227066, sector=66416
Jun 16 04:02:28 zorak kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:02 (hda),
sector 66416
Jun 16 04:02:28 zorak kernel: vs-13070: reiserfs_read_inode2: i/o
failure occurred trying to find stat data of [2027 2685 0x0 SD]
Jun 16 04:02:28 zorak kernel: vs-13048: reiserfs_iget: bad_inode. Stat
data of (2027 2685) not found
Jun 16 04:02:31 zorak kernel: hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
Jun 16 04:02:31 zorak kernel: hda: read_intr: error=0x40 {
UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=227066, sector=66416
Jun 16 04:02:31 zorak kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:02 (hda),
sector 66416
Jun 16 04:02:31 zorak kernel: vs-13070: reiserfs_read_inode2: i/o
failure occurred trying to find stat data of [2027 2693 0x0 SD]







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From: Robert Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Three Fingered Salute
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 16:14:02 +0100

Lew Targett wrote:

> An easy question. When a program freezes, such as Netscape which does so
> not infrequently, how do you close the program down without re-booting.
> Ctrl/Alt/Backspace does not always work.

Most distros will let you say :

killall netscape

Or killall -HUP netscape

finally -9

Rob

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From: Robert Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ports
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 16:14:50 +0100

adam851 wrote:

> Can somebody please give a quick definition of Ports.What they do,and
> how you find out more info about them.(Most Linux books always talk
> about ports but forget that many people arn't computer profesionals)

Network ports, I/O ports or S/W Ports?

Rob

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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Workaround to get HP Colorado IDE tape drives to work under RH7.1 
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 10:22:46 -0500

Robert Davies wrote:
> 
> Denis Leroy wrote:
> 
> > Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >> I think that as long as I don't try to access the tape drive first
> >> as /dev/ht0 (and thus load the ide-tape module), then Denis's
> >> fix works fine.   I think I could just put this is rc.local
> >> or just load the modules when I need them to use the tape drive.
> >>
> >> I know several people had complained about not being able to use
> >> the HP Colorado IDE tape drives under RH7.1.   I've been trying
> >> to track them down without success.  I just came upon Denis's
> >> solution by luck, and I think it should be better advertised.
> >
> >
> > To do that, you can add the line
> >
> >   alias ide-tape off
> >
> > in the /etc/modules.conf file
> >
> > Also, adding
> >
> >   below st ide-scsi
> >
> > will force the auto-load of ide-scsi when you access /dev/st0
> 
> Now that is a nice way of handling it, but is less general than the method
> I use as it will probably interfere with SCSI tape drives you have.
> 
> I like the ide-tape off, I wonder if ide-tape works for anyone?  My drive
> seemed to work, but positioning commands failed completely and I gave up on
> it.  IDE tape drives have a bad reputation, I'm wondering if it's the
> driver's fault (ide-tape) because they seem fine once you've got them
> operating correctly.
> 
> Rob

My HP Colorado IDE 2.5/5 GB drive worked perfectly with all kernels
from 2.0.35 onward until I upgraded to RH.7.1 with kernel 2.4.2.
>From other reports, I think it may have stopped working with
kernel 2.16.  Also, since it seems to work fine with ide-scsi, it
would appear to be a driver problem in the new kernel, not a problem
with the tape drive.

I did have one problem with previous kernels.   The mt command didn't
seem to work right with the fsf option when I had multiple archives
on a tape, but I found a workaround.  That may be what you meant by
positioning commands.  I found that everything was in file 0
and if there were more than one archive mt -f /dev/nht0 fsf n didn't
work.  However, if I used mt to put write and eof after each
archive, the positioning commands did work, but I had to use double
the number of archives.


-- 

Leonard Evens      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208

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From: Jesper Petersen <jesperp**Delete**@nork.auc.dk>
Subject: Re: Problem starting X
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 17:51:39 +0200

>I get this error when I run startx:
>
>could not init font path element unix/:7100,  removing from list

I'm not an expert, but I think if you tell us which distribution you use,
someone could tell you the correct number (instead of 7100).

Jesper

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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem starting X
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 10:57:53 -0500

Brian McAndrews wrote:

> I get this error when I run startx:
> 
> could not init font path element unix/:7100,  removing from list
> 
> Fatal server error
> Could not open default font "fixed"
> 
> Anybody got any ideas what's going on?
> 
> Thanks
> Brian
> 
> 
>

Start the X font server 'xfs'.

In Red Hat 7.1 and Mandrake 8.0

# /etc/rc.d/init.d/xfs start

Then make sure that /etc/rc.d/rc3.d has the symlink

S90xfs -> ../init.d/xfs


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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on AMD
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 11:08:17 -0500

Robert Davies wrote:

> ganesh wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> I have a sony desktop with AMD athlon(1GHz) and 128 MB RAM. Can I install
>> linux on it. I already have windows Millenium running on it(It came
>> installed)
> 
> Yuck, how will you recover the OS if you don't have a CD-ROM?
> 
>> Where can I download or purchase the specific Linux version. Also where
>> can I find instructions for partitioning the drive.
> 
> Good distro like SuSE-7.2 or Mandrake 8.0 will do it for you.
> 
> It may be wise to invest in a 2nd harddrive, so you can install linux
> without interfering with your windows disk at all, otherwise you have to
> defragement and resize the windows partition, as part of the linux
> installation.
> 
> Rob
> 

One of the very cute things that Microsoft did with WinMe was to make it 
impossible to perform a soft install.  He doesn't need a CD-ROM for 
recovery because it won't work anyway.


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