Linux-Setup Digest #462, Volume #21              Sun, 17 Jun 01 23:13:13 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Problem on SuSe 6.3 installation ("Christian")
  Lilo and kernel to big ("Will Muir")
  128MB RAM. No swap partition needed? (c0Y0t3)
  How to save configuration information for doing installation next time? (Mark 
Johnson)
  Re: How to use USB Cable Modem on Linux? ("Jonathan M. Slivko")
  Re: Mandrake 8.0 freezing with DMA problems, please help! (Yu Di)
  Re: 128MB RAM. No swap partition needed? ("Jonathan M. Slivko")
  Hostname vs Eth0 issues (Mark Johnson)
  Rebuilding Kernel, how to save original dependancies? (Mark Johnson)
  Confused about rebuilding kernel (Mark Johnson)
  Upgrading glibc (David Liana)
  slow telnet response (Fred)
  Re: 128MB RAM. No swap partition needed? (Michael Perry)
  Re: Confused about rebuilding kernel (Michael Perry)
  Intermittent connectivity problems to internal server ("Gary Huntress")
  why is there no cut/copy option??? ("Jeff D. Hamann")
  Re: Lilo and kernel to big (Robert M. Taylor, Jr.)

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From: "Christian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
ahn.tech.linux,alt.comp.linux,alt.comp.linux.xxx,alt.linux.suse,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.best,alt.os.linux.suse,alt.pl.comp.os.linux.debian,at.linux,aus.computers.linux,be.comp.os.linux,cz.comp.linux.suse,fj.os.linux.setu
Subject: Re: Problem on SuSe 6.3 installation
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 23:52:34 +0200

"K K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:9gim4n$vfe$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Thank you for your information.   However, I just got one CD from a SuSe
> tutorial.   Then how could I overcome the problem?

after booting, this "syslinux" is loading, presentig you a green/? screen,
with a "boot:" prompt in the lower left corner. this is only for a few
seconds, after this it tries to go to the YAST2 / X installation.
but on this "boot:" prompt, you have to type something i forgot, to reach
the normal/menu-based installation. yes, i forgot what to type, but try to
hit the "TAB" button on this "boot:" prompt, i should how you some
boot-choices.
good luck!

Christian.



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From: "Will Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Lilo and kernel to big
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 18:31:30 -0600

When I compile a new kernel and try to install it with Lilo I get an error
message like "kernel is to big", I thought that this was an old issue for
Lilo.  What is causing this and what do I do to fix it?  I am running Debian
potato which I believe comes with Lilo 2.21 though I am not sure.

Thanks in advance



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From: c0Y0t3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 128MB RAM. No swap partition needed?
Date: 18 Jun 2001 00:39:02 GMT


c0Y0t3, a newbie to the Linuxworld:

Having 128MB of RAM, is it worth having no swap?
All considerations are appretiated TIA


c0Y0t3


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Subject: How to save configuration information for doing installation next time?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Johnson)
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 00:33:11 GMT

Ok, I spent about 45 minutes, custom selecting my packages.  Is there any 
way that I can print that selection out so that next time I can remember 
exactly what I picked?  


Also, it would be really convient if I could someone tell the installer to 
use these settings so I don't have to spend 45 minutes picking them again 
but i don't think that's going to happen....

thanks for the info...

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From: "Jonathan M. Slivko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to use USB Cable Modem on Linux?
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 01:01:13 GMT

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Try the ethernet port on the modem with an ethernet card in your
machine, it's a much simpler approach then dealing with USB.
- -- Jonathan

- --
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Jonathan M. Slivko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Technical Support, Black Lotus Communications
http://www.blacklotus.net/ -- check us out!
ICQ: 121466412
AIM: JMSNY2001
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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"patrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have @Home service with an RCA DCM226 cable modem which is
> installed to my computer with a  USB connection.
>
> How do I configure my Linux partition (linuxconf?) to read from
> this device? I have all of my IP addresses  and I have a static IP
> address for my machine but I don't know how to get on the Internet.
>
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
>
> PK
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yu Di)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Mandrake 8.0 freezing with DMA problems, please help!
Date: 17 Jun 2001 18:01:27 -0700

Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> What motherboard chipset is dmesg reporting?
> 
> For the meantime, run as root
> 
> # hdparm -d0
> 
> which will turn off DMA and maybe save what data you have on the drive.

Hi, I have pasted the "dmesg" output to the end of this message. When
I tried to boot Linux this time, I noticed that it said IRQ is unknown
for hda or so, and suggested using "pci=biosirq", so I re-booted and
started Linux with the option "pci=biosirq mem=280M". Then I ran dmesg
and got the information.

Also, I found that my /usr partition has suffered losses, a lot of
libraries were damaged, as a result a lot of applications cannot run.
Therefore I will need to re-install everything. If you found what is
wrong with my machine, could you kindly tell me how I can prevent it
from freezing up during the installation also? Thanks a lot!

=====================dmesg outputs
begin-------------------------------------

Linux version 2.4.3-20mdk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version
egcs-2.91.66 19990314/Linux (egcs-1.1.2 release / Linux-Mandrake 8.0))
#1 Sun Apr 15 23:03:10 CEST 2001
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
 BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009fc00 (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 000000000009fc00 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 00000000000f0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 00000000117f0000 (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 00000000117f0000 - 00000000117f8000 (ACPI data)
 BIOS-e820: 00000000117f8000 - 0000000011800000 (ACPI NVS)
 BIOS-e820: 00000000ffef0000 - 00000000fff00000 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 00000000ffff0000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved)
On node 0 totalpages: 71680
zone(0): 4096 pages.
zone(1): 67584 pages.
zone(2): 0 pages.
Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=linux ro root=305 pci=biosirq mem=280M
Initializing CPU#0
Detected 350.794 MHz processor.
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Calibrating delay loop... 699.59 BogoMIPS
Memory: 279284k/286720k available (976k kernel code, 7048k reserved,
287k data, 696k init, 0k highmem)
Dentry-cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 7, 524288 bytes)
Buffer-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
Page-cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 7, 524288 bytes)
Inode-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_6.5.0 initialized
CPU: Before vendor init, caps: 0183f9ff 00000000 00000000, vendor = 0
CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16K
CPU: L2 cache: 512K
Intel machine check architecture supported.
Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0.
CPU: After vendor init, caps: 0183f9ff 00000000 00000000 00000000
CPU: After generic, caps: 0183f9ff 00000000 00000000 00000000
CPU: Common caps: 0183f9ff 00000000 00000000 00000000
CPU: Intel Pentium II (Deschutes) stepping 02
Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
mtrr: v1.40 (20010327) Richard Gooch ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
mtrr: detected mtrr type: Intel
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfdb81, last bus=1
PCI: Using configuration type 1
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
PCI: Using IRQ router SIS [1039/0008] at 00:01.0
isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
isapnp: No Plug & Play device found
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
Initializing RT netlink socket
apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.14)
Starting kswapd v1.8
pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured
block: queued sectors max/low 185197kB/61732kB, 576 slots per queue
RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size 1024 blocksize
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.31
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with
idebus=xx
SIS5513: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 01
PCI: No IRQ known for interrupt pin A of device 00:00.1.
SIS5513: chipset revision 208
SIS5513: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
SiS620
    ide0: BM-DMA at 0xffa0-0xffa7, BIOS settings: hda:pio, hdb:pio
    ide1: BM-DMA at 0xffa8-0xffaf, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio
hda: SAMSUNG SV0432A, ATA DISK drive
hdb: Maxtor 32049H3, ATA DISK drive
hdc: IDE/ATAPI CD-ROM 44X, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
hdd: IOMEGA ZIP 100 ATAPI, ATAPI FLOPPY drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hda: 8421840 sectors (4312 MB) w/220KiB Cache, CHS=524/255/63,
UDMA(33)
hdb: 40021632 sectors (20491 MB) w/512KiB Cache, CHS=2491/255/63,
UDMA(66)
hdc: ATAPI 20X CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache, UDMA(33)
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12
hdd: No disk in drive
hdd: 98304kB, 96/64/32 CHS, 4096 kBps, 512 sector size, 2941 rpm
Partition check:
 hda: hda1 hda2 < hda5 hda6 hda7 hda8 >
 hdb: hdb1 hdb2 < hdb5 hdb6 >
Serial driver version 5.05 (2000-12-13) with HUB-6 MANY_PORTS
MULTIPORT SHARE_IRQ SERIAL_PCI ISAPNP enabled
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MD_SB_DISKS=27
md.c: sizeof(mdp_super_t) = 4096
autodetecting RAID arrays
autorun ...
... autorun DONE.
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP
IP: routing cache hash table of 2048 buckets, 16Kbytes
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 32768 bind 32768)
Linux IP multicast router 0.06 plus PIM-SM
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0.
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
Freeing unused kernel memory: 696k freed
Adding Swap: 473876k swap-space (priority -1)
MSDOS FS: Using codepage 850
MSDOS FS: IO charset iso8859-1
MSDOS FS: Using codepage 850
MSDOS FS: IO charset iso8859-1
cmpci: version v2.41-nomodem time 23:13:10 Apr 15 2001
PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:0f.0
cmpci: found CM8338A adapter at io 0xdc00 irq 11

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From: "Jonathan M. Slivko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 128MB RAM. No swap partition needed?
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 01:06:16 GMT

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You should always have a swap partition of at least twice the ammount
of available physical RAM.
- -- Jonathan

- --
_______________________________________
Jonathan M. Slivko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Technical Support, Black Lotus Communications
http://www.blacklotus.net/ -- check us out!
ICQ: 121466412
AIM: JMSNY2001
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
_______________________________________
"c0Y0t3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9gjij6$19h1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> c0Y0t3, a newbie to the Linuxworld:
>
> Having 128MB of RAM, is it worth having no swap?
> All considerations are appretiated TIA
>
>
> c0Y0t3

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Subject: Hostname vs Eth0 issues
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Johnson)
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 00:55:10 GMT

Whenever I do a new installation I setup the networking to be DHCP for 
CableModem and then I give the machine a name.  

When I go to boot for the first time, it fails to bring up eth0 (as well as 
apache, etc..). So my next step is to go into /etc/hosts and add the name 
of my machine, foobar, to the 127.0.0.1 entry. When I reboot everything 
works fine.  

Is this the intended behavior?

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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Rebuilding Kernel, how to save original dependancies?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Johnson)
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 01:11:51 GMT

OK, I'm about to reconfigure and rebuild my kernel. However, if something 
goes wrong I want to be able to start from scratch without reinstalling.

What file or files do I need to archive before I start mucking with all the 
various options under xconfig?

Is it possible to archive to configuration and then blow away to new 
dependancies with the originals?  Does it work that way?

thanks for your help!!!

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Subject: Confused about rebuilding kernel
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Johnson)
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 01:22:49 GMT

I read the README in /usr/src/linux and it says don't compile using the 
code in that directory and instead unpack the source code in your home 
directory and build from there. 

I was going to install the source RPM but I don't think i can get it into 
my home directory.  Is this what I need to do? should I not touch the stuff 
in /usr/src/linux?

thanks for your help...

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From: David Liana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Upgrading glibc
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 21:44:44 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have Mandrake 8.0.  I want to upgrade glibc (2.2.2 comes with
mandrake,installed by rpms, I want to upgrade to 2.2.3 - I just want to
learn how to do it)

How can I make this upgrade without mudering my system?
I want to make it my default C library.  Most of the howto's explain for
more drastic upgrades.

I have tried upgrading with little sucess.

Dave

PS - I know I am posting a lot, but I am somewhat new to the Linux/Unix
scene and I want to learn more about it.

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From: Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: slow telnet response
Date: 18 Jun 2001 01:58:28 GMT

Dear all,

I setup several RedHat Linux Boxes. Their IPs are virtual IPs(10.0.3.*). One of 
them(10.0.3.254) is used as my gateway. When I tried to telnet from one machine to 
another one, I had to wait for quite a long time before I could see the login prompt. 
I used 'route' to check it, I also had to wait for quite a long time to see the 
result.However, the telnet response is very fast if I didn't set gateway in those 
machines.Could anyone tell me how to solve the problem? Many thanks.

Regards,
Fred 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: 128MB RAM. No swap partition needed?
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 02:36:24 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 18 Jun 2001 01:06:16 GMT, Jonathan M. Slivko 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> You should always have a swap partition of at least twice the ammount
> of available physical RAM.
> - -- Jonathan
> 
I question the need for a swap partition of double the size of available RAM
if you have a system with anything over 128mb.  I don't know the
conventional wisdom, and I always create a swapfile when I do an
installation.  My systems though run 384mb and 512mb of memory each.  This
would mean I would need a gig of swapfile for the second system.  I believe
that I created a much smaller swapfile for the second system.  More like
128mb or so.  I run 2.4.5 on both and some swap gets written to on occasion. 
I would cheerfully be corrected if others running over 128mb of physical
memory see a need to create a swapfile with double the size.  I see so
little swapfile used that I really do not see the need for humongous
swapfiles when you have a half-gig of system memory.  Both systems are quite
fast anyways. They are both 1g athlons with KT133 boards.  I have other
issues I guess with them; but swapfile use has never been up there.

-- 
Michael Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: Confused about rebuilding kernel
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 02:39:44 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 18 Jun 2001 01:22:49 GMT, Mark Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I read the README in /usr/src/linux and it says don't compile using the 
> code in that directory and instead unpack the source code in your home 
> directory and build from there. 
> 
> I was going to install the source RPM but I don't think i can get it into 
> my home directory.  Is this what I need to do? should I not touch the stuff 
> in /usr/src/linux?
> 
> thanks for your help...

Well... I always do this.  I move out the old kernel source that used to be
in /usr/src/linux to something like /usr/src/linux2218.   Then I unpack the
new kernel archive in /usr/src.  This creates a /usr/src/linux. Then I move
into that directory and do a "make menuconfig".  Seems to work fine for me
that way.  I don't use rpms for kernel or pcmcia stuff.  In fact, I don't
use rpms at all.  I use debian here; but I still compile my own kernels.  I
have compiled a few kernels and never have done it under $HOME.

That's just my approach though.  Always worked for me; but I would
definitely do it another way also.

-- 
Michael Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
====================

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From: "Gary Huntress" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Intermittent connectivity problems to internal server
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 02:51:05 GMT


 I've got a connectivity puzzle.....machine A is firewall, B is a mysql
server........Machine A runs apache and php creating some dynamic web pages
using connections to B.  This has been running fine for months with no
changes in hardware or installed software.   Periodically, and with
increasing frequency, machine A suddenly  cannot make mysql connection to B,
but B is up fine and serving connections to the outside world.

Machine A can access machine B's other services (ssh for example) just not
MySQL.  I know its a problem with A (rebooting B did not help) but
restarting Apache and restarting networking and the firewall doesn't help.
What would I use to troubleshoot this?   Netstat doesn't tell me much.    At
the moment all I can really do is reboot :(

System is RedHat running 2.2.16-22.   Any troubleshooting tips would be
greatly appreciated

--
Regards,
Gary "SuperID" Huntress
=======================================================
FreeSQL.org offering free database hosting to developers
Visit http://www.freesql.org




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From: "Jeff D. Hamann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.windows.x.kde
Subject: why is there no cut/copy option???
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 19:59:48 -0700

Why is there no cut/copy option in the GNOME terminal window? That's really
annoying since I want to build a script file using sql statements from MySQL
and want to be able to paste them into a script file, but don;t want to run
the entire script each time to find out of the query in question worked
correctly.

Thanks,
Jeff.



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From: Robert M. Taylor, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lilo and kernel to big
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 03:00:42 GMT

Try make bzImage. This uses different compression and creates a smaller 
kernel image file.
Will Muir wrote:

> When I compile a new kernel and try to install it with Lilo I get an error
> message like "kernel is to big", I thought that this was an old issue for
> Lilo.  What is causing this and what do I do to fix it?  I am running
> Debian potato which I believe comes with Lilo 2.21 though I am not sure.
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> 

-- 
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Bob Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
bob@osprey:~


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