Hi Jacky, I am not sure how these speculations help establishing the open relations all of us are hoping to achieve with Allwinner.
Opening sources or giving various pieces of information is often counter-intuitive for various vendors including non-Chineese. Allwinner is making major progress in this respect. Giving us the user manual of the fairly-recent A31/A31s chips is a good example, indeed one that refutes some of your speculations. That said, I believe all of us agree that it is Allwinner's best interest to make its chips popular among developers so that it'll reach, as you say, additional applications beyond tablets. The A80 is a strong chip that can power up a energy-conserving laptop, and the availably of a stable linux is a critical step in making this happen. The Sunxi community is the best way of making this happen. I, for example, am trying to implement various real-time video processing application on Allwinner's SoCs which is a another venue that can take-off both in the academia and the industry. The first vendor who will win the hearts of the open-source community will be the winner in this competition (See for example Atmel in the Arduino versus PIC micro-controllers). I take Kevin's words seriously and expect to see of the manuals of the A80 soon so that all of us will be able to take things forward. All the best, Raanan On Monday, October 13, 2014 6:37:17 PM UTC+3, jacky lau wrote: > > Cover up the bug is just a personal opinion. The more acceptable reason > may be > * They signed a NDA with the IP vendor and can't publish some documents. > * They develop some control unit on the chip, this is private property of > them, so they don't want to open it. Many companies do so, right? > * Open the document will lead to some engineers and marketing guys lost > their job, as the open source community do some work. > I am not a staff of allwinner, so I don't know how they think exactly. > > 在 2014年10月11日星期六UTC+8下午11时15分46秒，Simon Kenyon写道： >> >> On 10/11/14 15:31, jacky lau wrote: >> > A big client will buy thousands of chips once. Are there any relation >> > between big client and user manual publishing? No. So they don't think >> > it's necessary to open their private property. When you are a big >> > client, you are VIP, all document and source code is open to you. And >> > if publish all technical documentation, competitors will know some >> > technical secret (e.g. bug;) they don't want them to know. >> > Open world is beautiful, but they will not actively participateif >> > there is no return. Why some China soc company publish some documents >> > and source code now? I think this is mainly for marketing. But no >> > matter how, VIP priority. >> so the reason why chip manuals are not published is because there are >> bugs in the silicon. gee! who would have thought it. >> at least if we knew what they were we could maybe work around them. >> >> i'm sorry but i don't buy this argument. fear of law suits because of >> patent violations is a more plausible reason. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "linux-sunxi" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
