On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 11:38:48 +0900
Masami Hiramatsu (Google) <mhira...@kernel.org> wrote:

> On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 09:03:23 -0700
> Andrii Nakryiko <and...@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
> > Introduce CONFIG_FTRACE_VALIDATE_RCU_IS_WATCHING config option to
> > control whether ftrace low-level code performs additional
> > rcu_is_watching()-based validation logic in an attempt to catch noinstr
> > violations.
> > 
> > This check is expected to never be true in practice and would be best
> > controlled with extra config to let users decide if they are willing to
> > pay the price.  
> 
> Hmm, for me, it sounds like "WARN_ON(something) never be true in practice
> so disable it by default". I think CONFIG_FTRACE_VALIDATE_RCU_IS_WATCHING
> is OK, but tht should be set to Y by default. If you have already verified
> that your system never make it true and you want to optimize your ftrace
> path, you can manually set it to N at your own risk.
> 

Really, it's for debugging. I would argue that it should *not* be default y.
Peter added this to find all the locations that could be called where RCU
is not watching. But the issue I have is that this is that it *does cause
overhead* with function tracing.

I believe we found pretty much all locations that were an issue, and we
should now just make it an option for developers.

It's no different than lockdep. Test boxes should have it enabled, but
there's no reason to have this enabled in a production system.

-- Steve


> > 
> > Cc: Steven Rostedt <rost...@goodmis.org>
> > Cc: Masami Hiramatsu <mhira...@kernel.org>
> > Cc: Paul E. McKenney <paul...@kernel.org>
> > Signed-off-by: Andrii Nakryiko <and...@kernel.org>
> > ---
> >  include/linux/trace_recursion.h |  2 +-
> >  kernel/trace/Kconfig            | 13 +++++++++++++
> >  2 files changed, 14 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/include/linux/trace_recursion.h 
> > b/include/linux/trace_recursion.h
> > index d48cd92d2364..24ea8ac049b4 100644
> > --- a/include/linux/trace_recursion.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/trace_recursion.h
> > @@ -135,7 +135,7 @@ extern void ftrace_record_recursion(unsigned long ip, 
> > unsigned long parent_ip);
> >  # define do_ftrace_record_recursion(ip, pip)       do { } while (0)
> >  #endif
> >  
> > -#ifdef CONFIG_ARCH_WANTS_NO_INSTR
> > +#ifdef CONFIG_FTRACE_VALIDATE_RCU_IS_WATCHING
> >  # define trace_warn_on_no_rcu(ip)                                  \
> >     ({                                                              \
> >             bool __ret = !rcu_is_watching();                        \  
> 
> BTW, maybe we can add "unlikely" in the next "if" line?
> 
> > diff --git a/kernel/trace/Kconfig b/kernel/trace/Kconfig
> > index 61c541c36596..19bce4e217d6 100644
> > --- a/kernel/trace/Kconfig
> > +++ b/kernel/trace/Kconfig
> > @@ -974,6 +974,19 @@ config FTRACE_RECORD_RECURSION_SIZE
> >       This file can be reset, but the limit can not change in
> >       size at runtime.
> >  
> > +config FTRACE_VALIDATE_RCU_IS_WATCHING
> > +   bool "Validate RCU is on during ftrace recursion check"
> > +   depends on FUNCTION_TRACER
> > +   depends on ARCH_WANTS_NO_INSTR  
> 
>       default y
> 
> > +   help
> > +     All callbacks that attach to the function tracing have some sort
> > +     of protection against recursion. This option performs additional
> > +     checks to make sure RCU is on when ftrace callbacks recurse.
> > +
> > +     This will add more overhead to all ftrace-based invocations.  
> 
>       ... invocations, but keep it safe.
> 
> > +
> > +     If unsure, say N  
> 
>       If unsure, say Y
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> > +
> >  config RING_BUFFER_RECORD_RECURSION
> >     bool "Record functions that recurse in the ring buffer"
> >     depends on FTRACE_RECORD_RECURSION
> > -- 
> > 2.43.0
> >   
> 
> 


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