On Sat, 18 Nov 2006, Oleg Verych wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 10:22:58AM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> > Those email addresse in unusual_devs.h are _not_ credits.  (The credit 
> > belongs to the person who writes and submits the patch, not the person 
> > who owns the hardware and reports the problem.)
> 
> I think, "code generated from documentation" rule, can be applied here.
> CS theory, but i'm not a CS specialist ;-E

Sorry, I'm not familiar with that rule.

> > > I wish some day all this static useless id-ification will went to
> > > userspace.
> > 
> > I do too.  But there are difficulties with doing it.  Just as one example,
> > consider trying to boot from a USB pendrive.  At that point there _is_ no
> > userspace available to provide the blacklist entries!
> 
> Do you mean usb flash drives?

Yes.  Or USB hard disk drives.

> So, if yes. BIOS knows how to boot from it, right?

Wrong.  The BIOS knows how to load the kernel, but it knows nothing about 
the rest of the boot procedure.

> Kernel isn't for
> itself, right?

I don't understand this question.

> Thus, i think before (any) rootfs image is ready, use
> BIOS. If one is ready use userspace.

The kernel cannot use the BIOS; it has to use its own drivers.  Reason: As
soon as the kernel probes the PCI bus, it takes the USB host controllers
away from the BIOS.

Alan Stern


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