On Wed, 2002-03-13 at 09:03, Jeremy Bertenshaw wrote:

> you've made some valid points, however they're not all entirely correct
> (It's not entirely prudent to comment on something you're not using

Yes, i deleted my rant as i'm not familiar with NT/XP.

> and up with the state of play on.), windows NT,2K etc.. have a proper
> user/group based security model and with NTFS it does give a
> permissions structure that prevents a number of problems you've
> discussed, alho' the unix permissions structure is by far a better

Doesn't work very well then, does it ?

> design (NT has no permissions inheritance from higher level
> directories...) it won't stop a number of the virus attacks like boot
> sector deleters and the like.

% ls -l /dev/hda
brw-rw----    1 root     disk       3,   0 Feb 15 16:20 /dev/hda

so, unless they've added themselves to the 'disk' group, i'm afraid that
any errant process CANNOT write to the boot sector of any disk.
 

> Microsoft doesn't have a community like the linux one granted, it's more
>  like the real world, it's incredibly diverse unlike the linux
> community and therein lies a lot of it's issues, it has to cater to so
> many different people wanting to run everything from old dos apps to
> 16bit windows apps to the latest 32bit stuff, more bloat more chances
> of holes etc, but it's because the people demand that, if linux is to

have you heard of dosemu ?  Apart from the "Phar Lap err 35" bollocks,
it is compatable with 16 bit DOS code.

> compete it has to give the people what they want... this is one of the
> reasons I'm anti linux on the desktop because if it wants to truly
> compete it's going to have to do what windows does, unfortunately ms

Why windoze ?  Shouldn't it be aiming a little higher than that ?
Anyway, what is it that windoze does, that linux doesn't ?

> set the standard for what people expect on the desktop, I think the

Yes, pity about that.

Rex


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