On Wed, 2002-03-13 at 10:07, Steve Brorens wrote:

> BTW I'd go so far as to say that the Windows (NT/W2K/XP/.NET) NTFS permission
> structure is overall far superior to Linux <ducks flames>, BUT the

How exactly ?

> problem is not generally the architecture; instead it's the attidude
> of *both* the vendor and the user-base to security. I'm very new to
> Linux, but it seems clear that:
> 
>  - a "default install" of Linux from most distros is not particularly secure

Compared to what ?

Anyway, don't generalise, be specific, email the problem to the person
responsible (usually easily found), and guess what ?  They'll fix it.

>  - many users of desktop Linux will spend a significant amount of time logged in as 
>root

I hope not.  In fact i have friends whose machines i have not even given
them the root password to.  They just use it.
 
> If Linux was ever to take off in the desktop space it would become pretty 
>monocultural as well.

I doubt it.

> Users are just not familier with the notion of having to logoff, back in as 
> Supervisor/Administrator/Root, install software, logout and back in.

Um, yes you are new to linux.  Try a 'man su', then 'man sudo' in a
shell.  Most package admin utilities will pop up a window asking for the
root password when you launch them.

> Simple and obvious to you and me, but 90% of experienced computer
> users have never faced this.

Therein lies the problem.  It's Better Manually (tm).

Rex

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