On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 05:50, you wrote:
> Your understanding of how DNS works is severely flawed. *PLEASE* go and do
> some research, since it appears you run some DNS servers for some largeish
> companies.
Nope I don't and I never claimed to.
> > Hope this clarifies things...
> Not really. it helps shed some light on why you made the comment on which I
> originally pointed out.

all I orignally said was ...
I use a redirector for my domain. It is based in the states, closer to the 
central DNS servers so changes get sent out pretty quickly.

I never made any comment on how DNs works, the DNS structure or even said that 
there is a central DNS server. I never said anything about DNS lookup 
structures either. I know about ARIn, ARIPE etc. i have hacked through the 
net and caught quite aq number of spammers who hide behind faked IP's header, 
mis directions etc. 

I have however seen lookups go to sludge because of caches, proxy servers etc. 
I have had the head banging frustrations of not being able to get to a 
server, despite knowing its name after an ip change because of caches in 
ISP's and places like that. DNS does work the way you say in theory, in 
practice it doesn't always coz those implementing it do use proxy caches and 
things they shouldn't and the only way to get those changed is to have them 
refreshed( either by pushing a change or waiting till they do some ip pulls).
I know IP addresses are not meant to be cached together with the results but 
it does happen. I have repeatedly queried websites with changed data and 
chaged ip addresses only to watch old ip addresses and old data come up. Why? 
Because there are some pretty shitty setups out there. people say you 
shouldn't set your DNs to use an ISP's DNS for lookups etc but it happens. 
The result? By the time the wrong DNs is returned from an ISP cache, the 
request sent out to get a web page or data from that ip address and then the 
ISP's  web caches matches a cached Ip address on the ISPs DNs and you end up 
with completely incorrect stuff ... you are screwed. It happens and so for me 
the bigger the hoster for a domain name the more people get that IP address 
updated in one hit. Thus less crap caching to wade through.

Theory is fine, the commercial reality is a night mare and corporates are 
usually the worst.

Shane
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Shane Hollis
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