> -----Original Message----- > From: Caleb Sawtell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > aa. Unlike some computer people I don't just dump one > system and jump to > > another without doing some home work. > > > > Well tell us your findings I've been playing about with Mozilla mail. I've also been playing with imap. I get hundreds of messages a day on different lists so changing over isn't just a five minute task. I also don't learn new systems as quickly as I did when I was 14. I'll be 34 this year. > and if you are not willing to at > least try linux I have set up a number of different linux boxes in the past of different distros. This years mission has been to learn pptp (poptop) properly and work out how to set up a data billing system around it that will integrate with a web based h323 solution that will support existing MS systems while also remaining open source (I've been working on this in the face of my funders oposition a request that we look exclusivly at Windows solutions because we know they work and will get beter acceptance in the market from potential customers at this point and time in our NZ history). > please unsubscribed because we are not willing to help you if > you don't even > use linux!! I purchased a new sony laptop earlier in the year with software already installed and I'm sorry if I take the easy way out... I also got married for the first (and last) time 8 months ago... once you've had a girl friend, moved out of home and had to work out how to set up a new business in a town that you don't know anyone in at all then you can come back and have another go at me :) > > bb. I will highlight my key words for you "retailers like > the warehouse". > > if you can't use a vacuum cleaner you will not be able to use > a computer what? > > cc. I agree that we want to see the likes of DSE > delivering dual boot > > boxes to market. > > > > Dual boot?! they used to sell them with linux only. Now they > sell linux ready > computers with no os (where is that homework now eh?) so if > you have the > brains you can install Mandrake, red hat or whatever When most people buy a computer they just want the thing to go. Most of the people I talk to each day don't even know what an OS is. > > > If the machine doesn't have a choice of OS pre-installed then don't > > purchase. It will take time for people to learn new systems. To > > transition they need to have the choice of both. > > > > What other retailers do we want to see delivering oss to market? > > > > ALL OF THEM!! Hummm.... some time we'll have a beer... (err, I'll have a beer and you can drink coke) and I'll explain why you don't want every man and his dog pushing Linux in the market at the same time - google: Marketing, Point of Difference > > What we do want to see is retailers who have staff who can > and will support > > the systems. > > linux is easy if you are only using it for OOo and kde games... > kids at school are using it for that very purpose Fantastic! How many kids? > > Give linux to the warehouse and all you'll see is customers > bringing them > > back in droves going 'errr.... ok I'll pay more for windows > now... sorry > > :)' > > Well there you go they get more money that way :D ROFL.... ok now I assume this is your sense of humour? Refunds can cost more money to process than the profit on a sale. Add to that the cost of selling a soiled product and you're running a loss. > > People will do this because Linux is still a very step > learning curve. > > So is windows Agreed. > > What are you saying? The government blow the $24 million > dollar budget or > > just that they've comitted $24 million to software in > education over the > > next year? > > And the software that they have got SUCKS trust me I know :D > It would be much better if they went open source and paid the > teachers more. They should use open source and pay more technical staff with in schools. They should pay for more teacher training. They should provide better communications and networking systems. Teachers are over paid for the return we currently get from IT if you ask me... Don't get me wrong... I'm not saying teachers are over paid, I'm saying that due to resource management issues we're not getting value for money. > > > > > > The warehouse is a suppermarket. > > > > > what supermarket?? > > how old are you? I am 14 and can spell that word it's easy > it's phonetic > (you sound it out) bite me! > > > > Really? I was in there only yesterday, and there wasn't a > > > crumb to be seen. > > > > What ever. > > what no sense of humour?? NO > > > > > How many machines have you guys pulled windows off and > > > > > > thrown linux on to > > > > > > > get some more value out of hardware that was otherwise > going to just > > > > collect dust in some old store room? > > > > > > Lots. > > > > But I would like to point out that windows 98 se works fine > on them so why put > linux on such a inferior hardware? Can you send me a photo of your self? I want to make a poster for my dart board of you saying that! > > And doesn't the fact that it makes you look like a good guy > with your > > customers give you added incentive? > > > > I would not put linux on a user desktop with anyting less > than a p3 600 That's not the sort of thing I want to hear. > > > > Cheers Don > > BTW I am looking to earn a few bob how about 25 dollars for a > mandrake install > and yes I will make it so you can keep or presious windows. Got to give this guy points! If I had more free cash I'd take you up on that offer if for no other reason that to support some student employment! Cheers Don
