Don Gould wrote:
> On Thu, 2004-05-27 at 16:16, Chad wrote:
> > First thing you want to do now you've installed it is install the
> > updates. This can be done several ways. Here are to two easiest.
> > As a normal user go.
> > Start menu > System > configuration > Packaging > Mandrake update.
> > It'll ask you for your root password. It'll then spit out a Welcome
> > Message I think etc After that it will ask you to choose an update Server
> > from the list it presents. Once it's done that it will download the
> > current package list and work out which updates you need (there will be
> > some 10.0OE's been avaliable to club members for a month now). It'll ask
> > you to select the updates you want then just click install and it will
> > install them. Something like that any way as I do my updates another way.
>
> I tried this.  The jetgames mirror isn't in the list.  Why is that and
> can we get it added?


It's not on the list because it's not an "Official" mirror and I think 
jetstreamgames would prefer to keep it that way so lots of overseas users 
don't hog the bandwidth. Command line wise 

urpmi.update --update
urpmi --auto-select --auto

(--auto is install with out asking Q's) Isn't to much of a bother and can be 
stuck in a bashscript and then set as a cron job once a month if your really 
not wanting to have to bother about it.

> I tried following the instructions to add it using media manager but
> that failed using the url you provided bellow.... not really sure why, I
> didn't write down the error message that didn't make much sense to me...
> I decided to give your CLI version a go instead.
>
> > The second method is this CLI version.
> > Open a console and run su to login as root.
> > Then run this command.
> > urpmi.addmedia --update updates
> > ftp://ftp2.jetstreamgames.co.nz/pub/dist/mandrake/official/updates/10.0/R
> >PMS/ with ../base/hdlist.cz
>
> That worked.

Yeah it's easier to explain cli stuff in text than it is to explain Gui stuff 
in text and I havent used MandrakeUpdate since about 9.1 so things have 
probably changed abit.

> > (type that all out should be one line).
> > It'll download the update list. Then run.
> >
> > urpmi --update --auto-select
>
> And that's going to take all night! :)
> ... and it did but seemed to work ok....  at least it didn't seem to
> report any errors.  Is there an error log file created?

If there's errors it'll report them Quite visually on the screen.
One advantage with using the jetstreamgames mirror is that if you have 
jetstream you can get full speed access to it. 
As shown here.

http://www.techie.net.nz/adsl/gamingrealm.html

Updates don't take long at 500KBps :)

> > urpmi Will wok out what updates you need to install then show you a list
> > of them and ask if you want to install them. Answer y and urpmi will
> > download the updates and install them for you.
> > Next time you want to update you simply login as root and use these two
> > commands.
> >
> > urpmi.update --update
> > urpmi --update --auto-select
>
> How often should I do this?  Is there a recommendation or would it be ok
> to create a daily cron script?


Once every few weeks is enough. Unless Mandrake screams blue murder and 
advises every one to update NOW :).


> > Software Installation.
> >
> > Urpmi/RPMDrake are also used to install new software on Mandrake.
> > Again theres a GUI method and a CLI Method.
>
> I take it that urpmi is a bit like debian's apt?

Quite similar has many of the same features for example you can upgrade 
between versions of Debian only using apt-get same with urpmi.

eg When 10.1 comes out you'll be able to upgrade by removing the old update 
sources, main and  contrib sources. Creat a new main pointing to 
http://xx...Mandrakelinux/10.1/RPMS and then upgrade with the simply 
commands.

urpmi --auto-select
urpmi kernel

> Well that's enough for right now...
>
> I'll have another look at the rest of your suggestions tommrow when I
> get some chance :)
>
> Thanks again for all your help Chad.

No problem.

Chad

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