On Sun, Sep 05, 2004 at 10:58:05AM +1200, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: > I'm not sure whether you aren't overestimating the privacy value of > received:. They look all the same, therefore not of real value to > Snoopy. Since most mailing lists are too stupid to strip it, it's > already public anyway, assuming you use the same computer for sending > mails to lists and your conspirators.
they allow snoopy to match mails to a person, distinguish forwards from mails that originate at a machine, so they are telling something. better to hide them than not. > Good luck setting this up with most members of your family. The > pgp/mime approach has the big advantage that I can coerce others into > using it because it's within their computing resource limits (own > servers are not!) and only just outside their technical skill limits. i disagree. it is a question of customer demand that all isps start supporting smtp over tls or ipsec. the goal here is to completely eradicate all nonencrypted communication. wether this goal is reachable or not is completely irrelevant, the question is wether it should be reached. i am not interrested in technical limitations. for the sake of this argument there are no technical limitations. anything can be accomplished. but this also means that any encryption can be cracked, so the question is wether this goal is worthwhile or not. > It's a lot better than nothing. it is nothing. once snoopy knows who i communicate with, there are ways to find out what we communicate about. having my addressbook is enough for snoopy to make life miserable for a lot of people. so the only way to ensure snoopy does not kidnap yuris children in order to get one of us to expose our conspiracy. snoopy won't even begin to snoop on you unless he has an idea what you are up to, and then he only cares who you communicate with, and the more people on that list, the easier to find a suitable target. content is irrelevant. communication networks are. greetings, martin. -- looking for a job doing pike programming, sTeam/caudium/pike/roxen training, sTeam/caudium/roxen and/or unix system administration anywhere in the world. -- pike programmer travelling and working in europe open-steam.org unix system- bahai.or.at iaeste.(tuwien.ac|or).at administrator (stuts|black.linux-m68k).org is.schon.org Martin B�hr http://www.iaeste.or.at/~mbaehr/
