> hacking the isp is not going to do any good if we are not going to use > the isps mailservers.
Sure, but you were arguing for "customer demand" at the ISP. Receiving their mail at home, i.e. running a server, is out for Joe Doe. Using an intermediate server creates a point of attack. Fine to talk about the ideal, but that doesn't buy me anything. Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me.
