ahh well your lack of patience blew it again I guess.

On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 09:31:05 +1300
eBhakta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> and the problems definitely seem to
> be with KDE in Ubuntu... Got the following back from the Ubuntu group...
> 

which you never revealed the secret of how you installed.

>         "It's very difficult to figure-out what could have gone wrong. It
> seems likely that there was an oversight in the installation of KDE. Would
> you consider reinstalling Ubuntu? I haven't checked whether or not Ubuntu
> supports Upgrade or Repair from the Installation CD. Whenever I broke my GUI
> in Suse, I did just that and it worked most of the time -Mandrake wasn't as
> good at that though."
> 
>         This is agreed, that there was probably an oversight in the
> installation of KDE, to do with the packages. Tried reinstalling Ubuntu, but
> the "apic nolapic" feature wouldn't work, so couldn't install it. As it is,
> the "other operating system" has had to be reinstalled (and thereby losing
> all the emails from the group regarding this whole affair), due to conflicts
> arising between the two systems (have lost all the data on the Ubuntu
> partition, including modem stuff downloaded by Nick).

if you want help with this you need to give more information.

>Seems the "other
> operating system" is not as harsh when it comes to setting up areas for data
> protection (perhaps that's just because that system is so much more
> familiar, and haven't figured Linux out enough yet to do the same stuff with
> data protection etc.). Definitely agree with the advice given to study the
> Linux system... in order to be able to use that system. Obviously
> required... Just not familiar enough with Linux.
> 
> All
> kinds of problems happening with running both systems on the same computer
> (esp. when doing reinstalls, and partitioning etc.).

Just think  about this: large numbers of people in the word can acheive
this. you can't do you think the problem lies with you or with the tools
you are given?

>It would be okay, if
> Linux could detect the modem and install the driver... etc. 

errr it did, you did what every other user has to do with a winmodem,
used scanModem and followed what it said. Remember the hardware choice
was yours. By the way I posted our success story on the linmodems.org
mailing list, and got feedback from the developer of scanModem, so there
should be even more explicit help when he gets around to assimilating
that into his program. its called co-operation.

>Wishful
> thinking? But (apparently) all that's needed to get the laptop networked to
> the desktop is a cross-over for the network cable..

this is not an aspect of linux, its an aspect of the physical and
electrical properties of ethernet networking and standard cabling.
someone of your computer experience could have worked that out.

>. Then Ubuntu (or SuSE)
> could be installed exclusively on the laptop, and networked to share the
> desktop ISP connection (using the "other operating system") for downloading
> the modem stuff, etc., and putting on the laptop for installation. Yes? 

That was an option you could have taken, but didn't. 

>That
> seems logical. But then will there be issues between the two machines, like
> there is between the two o/s's on the same machine...?

why? in that situation the win machine purely acts as a gateway. they
both talk tcpip. 

>Obviously there are
> so many issues to be resolved... one being that a (nicely functioning) o/s
> is required here... with the applications needed for the work at hand.

you had one when you left my office on Monday. the only changes have
been made by you, and you resolutely refuse to tell us what you did to
install kde, so theres very little to diagnose.

>An
> o/s that's not greed-based... and does not rejoice in the exploitation of
> others. Ubuntu seems to be in that mood...

utter crap. read their web pages, in particular: 
http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/philosophy/

>Basically Linux seems to be in
> that mood... So, are you okay with those CD's being picked up? They can be
> easily picked up if that's okay with you...? Thanks. Have a good/nice day.
> Wishing well, always.
> 
> Regards,
> Bhaktavatsala Dasa (Vatsala)
> 
> @ http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~vatsalaji - Hare Krishna!
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Fisher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 6:17 AM
> Subject: Re: Ubuntu problem...
> 
> 
> > On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 23:06, eBhakta wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, there are ALWAYS alternatives.
> >
> > Correct me if I am wrong but......
> >
> > You probably do not have much to lose by waxing your current Linux
> partitions?
> > You read my post recently which suggested a more "familiar" distro might
> have
> > advantages?
> > You expressed a willingness to try SuSE?
> >
> > Well I have burnt the 5 SuSE 9.1 CD's for you. I suggest that you contact
> me
> > to acquire them and then start from scratch with SuSE.
> >
> > Your call though.
> >
> > --
> > Robert Fisher
> > (aka - Rob, Bob, Robbie, Robbo, Fish)
> > www.fisher.net.nz
> >
> > Glen Quagmire: Hello, 911? It's Quagmire. Yeah, it's caught in the window
> this
> > time.
> >

-- 
Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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