> why would kppp write to the logs? as i understand it sysklogd writes to > the logs, kppp etc should use the system logging. > > AFAIK you only need the user-who-wishes to be in a group that has > appropriate access to the device concerned, ie /dev/modem (or whatever > /dev/modem ultimately links to)
No, kppp starts pppd and pppd writes to logs. I assume that because kppp is started by 'user' then pppd runs a 'user'. So, yes, there are two groups involved in Debian- 'dialout' allows access to the serial ports and 'dip' allows access to /usr/bin/kppp but even with 'user' as a member of both groups dialling up will not work- kppp fails because it cannot start pppd, because pppd cannot write to the logs. I can put everything back as it was and put the exact errors here. Thanks, Andy
