On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 23:41:20 +1300
Volker Kuhlmann wrote:

> > http://docs.scribus.net/index.php?lang=en&sm=exportingtopdf&page=pdfexport1
> 
> I am keeping my opinion in this case: a tool which touts its
> interoperability between systems and whatnot, and which produces output
> which doesn't even show up in the latest GPL version of ghostscript, is
> a pile of turd.
> 

see below, perhaps it is the tool that boasts interoperability with pdf
and ps standards, but hasn't kept up with the latest stuff, which is a
pile of whoopsee.

> > Either of which will give you a very full explanation of what's going on 
> > with 
> > Scribus' pdf exporting.
> 
> In short: all your other tools are f***ed, go away and get knotted, but
> don't bother us. Wow, what an attitude.

Hold on, I disagree. Heres the essence of what the page says:

<quote>One of the challenges with PDF and EPS viewers on Linux, is that
Scribus creates high end PS level 3 and PDF 1.4, with capabilities
beyond most of the open source viewers. Some of these features are only
supported in commercial pre-press or DTP tools. Two plus years of
working with Scribus has led me to the current conclusion that the
following three viewers are the most reliable at displaying PS/EPS/PDF
created by Scribus:</quote>

Its saying, hey we are using the latest versions of the open standards,
some open source products have not kept up. 

Personally I do not think that a package such as scribus which is
actually trying to make a commercial grade open source product should be
held back by the fact that some open source software cannot handle later
versions and/or the high end features of the ps and pdf formats. You
cannot go to a professional print house and say "sorry no we cannot
produce pdf version 1.4 or 1.5 because we want to maintain compatibility
with some old version open source tools"

Scribus does allow you to control the output to pdf, including the pdf
version used and a whole lot of other variables, so the user has the
choice of how far up the standards ladder he wishes to go when
outputting to pdf. Chris has created it with pdf version 1.4, but he
didn't have to (I assume its not designed to be printed as the page size
is a rather odd 352x265 mm, which is close to 4:3 for a screen
presentation, but not much use for printing to any ISO standard Ax paper
size which have a ration of SQRT(2):1
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/iso-paper.html)

So in the end perhaps its Chris is saying "screw your older open source
pdf software", not scribus!
> 
> Volker
> 
> -- 


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Nick Rout

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