On Tue, 17 May 2005, Steve Holdoway wrote:


On Tue, May 17, 2005 1:01 pm, John Carter said: [snip]
But _pleeze_ let's nail these old "*sh" horrors into nice lead lined
coffins now. Preferable with a nice industrial strength wooden stake to
ensure they don't emerge again.

At most let's have a brief chat on "nifty command line tricks you can do
in zsh or bash" and lets stop there. I can do the bash one.

Horses for courses.

I honestly believe from fairly extensive and bitter experience that the only courses I would actually choose to run *sh horses on are as a command line or a very old legacy server that doesn't have a port of a decent language.


What else would you write your backup scripts in?

Anything more complex than a verbatim "file of commands" I write in Ruby, much easier, much more maintainable, far less trouble.


If you were to choose something like perl or python instead, I would understand and make no complaint. But the *sh, no thanks! I wish the UN*X's would evolve away from them.

Yes, I know they are "grandfathered" in place, but that is something that is crippling Un*x evolution, rather than an advantage of the *sh.


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We all live but seconds away from pain and death, yet we live as
though it wasn't even possible.

We are but one person amongst 6 billion, yet we live as though we,
personally, matter.

So, as you were saying... how real did you want me to get?

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