On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 16:47, you wrote:
<snip>
> Since I have heard that almost all ISPs are staffed by a symbiotic
> collection of barely post-pubescent youths and semi-geriatric Ebenezer
> Scrooges, I suppose that it's asymptotically close to a probability of
> zero.

That's a sweeping generalisation.  I will counter it by saying I had 
excellent technical support from two techs at Xtra yesterday.  Yes, Xtra.

> I hope Our One will demonstrate that it is an exception to the general
> rule.
>
> What are the chances of getting the 172.20.18.55 host/modem sorted out?
> As of now ( 16:37 ), the log for today says:-
> From 172.20.18.55 - 10062 packets to udp(68)
>
> Apart from the obvious, rather drastic, action of writing to the Internet
> Product Manager and the Head of Consumer Sales, I wonder how one gets
> this escalated further up the TelstraClear chain-of-command?

Er, why is that drastic?  Write a letter!  IMHO it has more weight than an 
email or phone call.  I can even give you the name of the person to write 
to.

The alternative is to keep asking to speak to supervisors.  I spoke to the 
Head of Disconnections, threatening to leave my ISP as I was royally 
pissed.  He was very patient and helpful, and actually sorted out my 
problem-of-the-time.

It is a sad fact that griping here will have no effect.  You must tell 
someone who cares.  Really.  Complaining is an art, and to be successful 
you need the following:

1) Know exactly what you are complaining about.  Have figures, names, dates 
and details to hand- write them down so you can refer to them later.  Add 
to them as things happen, and whilst you are in the process of complaining 
on the phone.
2) Know what you want to achieve as a resolution.  This is often 
overlooked- there's no point in complaining for the sake of it, you have to 
know what you want.  For example, if you know what the solution to this 
particular problem, then demand (or rather, suggest most vehemently) that 
it is implemented.  If you think you can put a monetary figure on your 
distress, suggest that you are compensated.
3) Be polite.  Most people on this list are tech-savvy, but when you are 
talking to the front-line tech support staff then remember, these people 
are used to talking to grannies who forgot their password, or people who 
unplug their modems (or keyboards, or anything) and can't get on the 
internet.  They are not used to tech-types calling up as usually we solve 
our own problems.  If you are not getting anywhere then ask to speak to a 
supervisor, but remember, these are people who are being paid to help you.

Have fun!

Andy

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