On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 16:05:43 +1200 Don Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Nick Rout wrote: > > Don the main problem > > > (apart from fighting through the spelling to try > > and find meaning) > > SORRY TO ALL! And I'm not just shouting at Nick for pointing it out, I > am sorry, I should have done more of a spell check first and I will... > I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed by the idea and finding it hard to get all > my ideas out of my head and in to reality... > > > >is that there is no clear description of what the network comprises. > > Opps... that's in my head I guess... > > > What does the uplink consist of? > > Microwave link back to the city. It will deliver 10mbits on day one and > up to 45mbits.... thou a second option may have to be found before that. > > > Where do the wired links go? > > Between the buildings, along the fence lines. ethernet? I think not. see andrew's reply, been covered before etc, not really on though. > > >Why do you > > have wired and wireless? > > Back up and capacity. The wireless will swamp at the northern end if > there's much demand at the southern end. > > > >Where are you going to get your poles from to > > support the wires? > > I'm not going to use over head wires. I'm proposing using the most > direct route from house to house. This is not a telephone network, > which requires a single pair to every dewelling. It's a big lan. It's > an 'internet'. Data for the southern dewellings passes thru the > northern links. > yes, run spellchecker over "dewelling" What about the possibilty/probability of seeing what my neighbours are downloading, their ISP mail passwords etc etc. > > > >Where are the nodes going? > > Every ten houses needs a node... ideally in the center of the red rings > on the map... > > http://www.tcn.bowenvale.co.nz/StaticContent/RHRNodeConcept/RHR98ToEndWith100mRings.jpg > > > >What are you going to do > > about easements where wires travel over private land? > > I'm told that all I need is a bunch of 12 people to sign off on a letter > of understanding and then we can get a special letter from the > government to get those rights.... however in the first instance I'm > thinking that asking nicly might be a good idea. You're the lawyer > round here... any thoughts? > if you want to get legal advice in this proposal you will have to pay for it, or visit legislation.govt.nz for an overview of the statutes and regulations. > > >Or where the node > > computers sit? > > In the homes of the people who host them. I suggest in the roof space, > that's where mine lives... but I guess a cupboard is good enough as well. > > > >How about a network diagram or a clear description? > > Can't do that until I get all the bits of software working that I > need.... I guess that part of the reason for presenting this at this > stage is to invite some help on that front. > > > > What powers the node computers? > > Power in each home. Some consideration will need to be given to home > owners who are hosting a node. > > > > What bandwidth does each household get TO THE INTERNET? - > > As much as we can pump in... The contention ratio initially will be > 10mbit/ConnectedUsers. > Yes, for the first user. Once you have 40 houses you really only have a 256 kb/s connection if everyone is using it. But if one of those users is a heavy user of, say, bittorrent, then the other users probbaly have a zero b/s connection. > However, ref to sheet 4 and you'll see I've mapped out costing based on > a link at $750 per month and data at $4/gig. hmmm i think this may be where it falls down. The $750 is shared between the users, depends how many people are on as to how expensive it is. However the $4/G is what each individual must pay to make it work, either for their own bandwidth, or as an (unfair) shared cost. Now on ADSL I may only be getting 256k, but i am paying roughly $1 per G - $40 for a monthly limit of 40G. How can your system get me the internet at less than $4 per G if that is what you are being charged? Speaking of which, where is the infrastructure cost? Billing, accounting for bandwidth, helpdesk, R&M, signups, signoffs when people move, debt collection, interest costs when you have to pay the provider but the customers haven't paid you? > > I suspect that the data provider will up the link capacity if required > once they start to see a return on the data. If the link is slowing > them from selling more data then they're likly to increase the link size > aren't they? > > > > and what is > > the contention ratio on that connection? > > > > > > NICK! Thanks for a fantastic response... You've just built the > foundation of an FAQ. I will start work on that later tonight after the > going away party for my nephew. > > Cheers Don > -- > Don Gould > www.thinkdesignprint.co.nz - www.tcn.bowenvale.co.nz - > www.bowenvale.co.nz - www.hearingbooks.co.nz - SkypeMe: ThinkDesignPrint >
