On Thursday 07 June 2007 19:21, Jim Cheetham wrote:
> On 07/06/07, Carl Cerecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Indeed. I don't recall being asked to write code in any job interview.
>
> I was once - write a PHP CRUD app as part of an interview for
> sysadminning(!). I created a non-working app that the interviewer (Hi
> Roger if you're out there) couldn't debug either until I said "we *do*
> have Internet available, don't we?" and a 2 minute googling fixed the
> problem ...

I was asked recently to write FizzBuzz for a preliminary pre-interview test.  
It took me a short while to get used to the idea, then another few minutes 
working out what they were actually asking for; I found it hard to believe 
them when they told me they were impressed with my code.

I also felt like a fool.  If you don't know modulus arithmetic ... 
>
> > Ever. I've been surprised that prospective employers haven't grilled
> > me that hard. Not that I'm unprepared, of course.
>
> One of my colleagues held the opinion that all technical interviews
> should be open-book, open-Internet, phone-a-friend - because that's
> what you'd do in the job, and the ability to research was just as
> important as the ability to do.

I have wondered about the value of tests in tertiary institutions, since I was 
told by Jan Nordhoff - he worked at Taits in the mid-nineties; he also taught 
for a while at Lincoln U. - that I was one of the better programming students 
he had had, which didn't stop me failing my first semester test.

How well do these university tests - with their closed conditions - relate to 
the work environment?  How often would I be expected to solve a restricted 
set of problems without asking anybody for clarification of their 
requirements, using debugging tools, etc, within a very tight three-hour 
period?
>
> > Also, I've never worn a tie to a job interview. I'm never sure if it's
> > a good thing or not.
>
> You need a tie to strangle the blood supply to the brain if you want
> to move from technical to management :-)

I've worn a fie on a number of occasions; I have also felt a total fool on 
such occasions.
>
> -jim

Wesley Parish
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