On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:02:25 +1300 (NZDT)
Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> On Thu, October 11, 2007 1:28 pm, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
> 
> >>
> >> windows handles ext2/3 with the addition of a simple and free driver.
> >
> > By the same token, Linux can handle NTFS using the ntfs-3g system.
> >
> > The St. Albans Neighbourhood Network ( NN ) are a bunch of consumate
> > Microsoft Windows devotees. They are taking a huge leap out of their
> > comfort zone even considering having Linux files on a machine. At the
> > moment, I'd rather not push them any further.
> >
> 
> So we are left with a situation where it is actually not that easy to get
> a DVD image off their machine:
> 
> 1. there is no DVD writer (according to another post)
> 
> 2. You can't use the commonly available flash drives as they are default
> formatted with fat which probably won't take a file >2GB.
> 
> 3. They won't install the ext2/3 windows driver which would allow a ext2/3
> flash drive to be used.
> 
> 4. They won't allow you to plug a laptop (or presumably an NAS) into their
> LAN, despite the fact that it is demonstrably virus free, and despite the
> fact that they allow us  an ethernet socket in the meeting room, and
> despite the fact that if I wanted to attack their lan I could sit down at
> any of the other windows machines there.
> 
> If the test of this facilty is the degree of use, its got to be made as
> usable as possible!
> 
> Fankly we'd be better using a stand alone linux machine with a cossover
> network cable hanging off the back.
> 
> I am all in favour of this facility, but something seems a little wrong
> with it.
> 
> Another thought: the facility is obviously aimed at people without good
> net access (or they could download the iso themselves). However my
> experience with ubuntu is that once you install the OS there is typically
> update files in the order of magnitude of one CD to bring it up to date
> (the exact amount depends where in the release cycle you are obviously,
> but even quite soon after release there are quite a few). I guess the same
> is true of other distros too.
> 
> Is anything being done to cater for the people who get home and find their
> computer wants to download 500M of updates over a modem?
> 
> -- 
> Nick Rout
> 
Blimey, give it a chance!

The original task that Chris and Wesley took on was to provide a place in chch 
to get oss ( not specifically *nix ) media. There is now such a place, and it 
is open during published hours on a daily basis.

OK, it's a Windows network, so of course they're paranoid about security... but 
it's their ball. There's a huge difference between their current level of risk, 
which they are managing and (probably) happy with, which includes allowing 
other people who have rented the hall to plug in a pc one evening a month, 
whilst on the other hand you're advocating leaving a machine which they know 
nothing about 'unattended' permanently on their network.

Software updates, sure something needs to be done. But let's get it started 
first (:

If there isn't a DVD writer there, I'm more than happy to donate one. 


Steve

Steve.

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