On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 00:00 +1300, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
> On Tue 16 Oct 2007 08:49:57 NZDT +1300, Vik Olliver wrote:
> 
> > I've found vmware a nightmare, particularly when it doesn't understand a
> > latest kernel release,
> 
> Each time I get a new kernel, I run vmware-config.pl (or whatever it's
> called), hitting enter on all the defaults. Problem fixed. In fact, 
> the vmware service init script does this automagically, so all that's
> needed is restart vmware. It needs the kernel source installed though,
> and I haven't taken the time to find out whether just some of the
> headers would suffice.

This is fine, if the headers are in your repo. If they are not yet,
you're not going anywhere. This happened to me at a critical time a
couple of weeks or so ago.

> > or when you've got a custom kernel it disagrees
> > with. I hate custom kernels anyway.
> 
> You do have a very good reason for those custom kernels? Did you add
> truckloads of inofficial patches into your kernel sources? And you did
> start with your vendor kernel and modified it only as much as needed? 

Yes, video cards.

> > Qemu is slower but much more reliable - and the network interfaces
> > actually work.
> 
> I've never seen trouble with vmware network interfaces. When I tested
> out firewalls I had 3 network cards in each virtual machine, all
> interfacing to the host. It worked as expected.

Well, sorry Volker but I've had plenty. I'm using - or trying to use 4
per VM. The system startup messages say they're eth0-3, and by the time
I get to a system prompt (this is on stock Debian etch, BTW) they're
eth4-7 and don't work.

> > No special kernels required and it runs on anything.
> 
> How extensive is qemu's hardware support? USB? Firewire? Sound card
> *recording input*? Does it have the useless-system-time-keeping feature
> of vmware?

External USB drives seem to work fine, so do USB mice & keyboards. When
stock kernels support my mic properly I'll let you know about recording.
Qemu does lose system ticks. This doesn't bother me as much as
networking not working or being unable to boot the PC.

I do not want qemu vs vmware wars, I have bigger fish to fry. For my
purposes though, qemu beats vmware. YMMV.

Vik :v)

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