Ian Marchak wrote:

> i.e.: Carbon Fiber I assume you are referring to?  Other than that there
> are no materials that I know of lighter than and stronger than steel.
> CF is amazingly strong when it comes to blunt forces and the like, but
> if someone grabs one of the fire axes that are std equip on all
> commercial pass. planes, they will make quick work of it.  Much like a
> kevlar vest won't do much good against an axe.
>

I bow to superior knowledge, I only flew in fighter jets sabre f86's........

> Observing the passengers is the job of the fight attendants.  Every time
> you step on a plane, they are looking at you as you walk past, examining
> you for "uneasiness", "darting eyes", "excessive sweat" and the like.
> These hijackers knew what was going to happen, they knew what they were
> going to do, and I can almost guarantee that they were not calm, cool
> and collected.  If not nervous of dying, they were extremely nervous of
> failing and being found out.  If anyone should have noticed this
> behavior, it should have been the flight attendants.  The pilots' jobs
> are to fly the plane.  Most airlines if not all (it could be FAA rules),
> have the passengers board before the pilot, so in the event that a
> hijacker is noticed getting on the plane before takeoff, there are no
> pilots aboard to even get the hijacked plane in the air.

I would guess that after so many years maybe of staring at people and not getting
any signs back, other than whats expected, complacency sets in ??

> I am not arguing that your points, or the points of the reporter or
> whomever are wrong.  They are valid points, but are coming from the
> wrong direction.  We are trying to find what was wrong with the
> airports, what was wrong with the planes.  Nothing.  Absolutely
> nothing.  There was something wrong with the individuals who boarded the
> planes, hijacked the planes and turned them into explosive weapons.  We
> cannot expect the people of the United States, the people who
> manufacture planes and the people who design airports them to cover
> every eventuality of the actions of lunatics.

I am looking at the events and do blame in some respects the airports or more
souciently the airport security that does seem to have lapsed with time, little 
activity
and once again complacency. In that its going to happen somewhere else or to someone 
else
but not me.
I used to have a saying on my posts to the effect that its always the other fellow that
stops the bullet, but to the other fellow you are that person !! We tend to forget 
that.

The discussions at the moment are very invigorating and keep what is left of my brain
working, or sort of!

--
Keith Antoine aka "Skippy"
18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland, 4061, Australia PH: 61 7 33002161
Certified Professional Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall!!
Insensible phone computer assistance a speciality.


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